US govt issues notification for sale of F-16s to Pakistan

[Dil Pakistan]

Sartaj Aziz was giving explanation as to how they were used in tribal areas in WOT. There was no need to give justifications at all. Its purely state to state business/transactoin without any IFs and BUTs.

We are getting them for FREE .... the US govt. has to satisfy its internal structure that why the tax payer's is being spent in this way. Sartaj Aziz had to make a public case.

 

[cloud4000]

Hi,

With the current political situation in the U S---this deal is still not final---till all the aircraft are delivered in a timely manner---. This is just a part of agreement.

The delievery maybe stopped at anytime. That is what the problem is.

People forget that this deal is being financed via FMF. President submitted request in budget request to Congress. If Congress approves, money will be disbursed in October. Delivery won't happen till 2017.

You are right. Until the aircraft are in Pakistan's hands anything can happen.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Don't say F16 only....... say

NUCLEAR CAPABLE F16

Just like India media call them........

they call it
Permaroo Bomb

 

[cloud4000]

Same delusion was with 8 ,Similarly same for Gunships and same for block 52 so I am humbled and feel lucky with my delusion.

You might ask for the moon then.

We are getting them for FREE .... the US govt. has to satisfy its internal structure that why the tax payer's is being spent in this way. Sartaj Aziz had to make a public case.

Free how? Pakistan is paying part of the cost, about 40%.

 

[Old School]

Pakistan needs to decommission her entire US built fleet and switch to better quality Russian models. This will happen in the long run though.

 

[volatile]

You might ask for the moon then.

Moon !

 

[My-Analogous]

Washington: Amidst stiff opposition from India and top American lawmakers, the US government has formally published federal notification for the sale of eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.
"This proposed sale contributes to US foreign policy objectives and national security goals by helping to improve the security of a strategic partner in South Asia," said the notification which was published by the federal register yesterday, along with a copy of the February 11 letter, which the Defense Security Cooperation Agency wrote to the House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan.

The total cost of these F-16 is estimated to be nearly USD 700 million, said the federal notification. It added that the Government of Pakistan had requested for this sale.

India has opposed the sale of F-16 to Pakistan, saying it disagree with Washington's rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism.




Republican Senator Rand Paul has asked colleagues in the Senate to join him in opposing the sale of F-16s to Pakistan.

Pakistan Prime Minister's Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz told Defence Writers Group this week that Pakistan had initially requested for 18 F-16s, but because of "financing problem" it is purchasing just eight.

"In the last five years Pakistan air force has been saving US assistance to be able to finance these F-16. That is why, the administration has recommended that these should be sold because it is a very critical part of our counter terrorism operation," Aziz said.

These F-16, Aziz argued, are a critical tool in the war against terrorism.

When asked if this is to be used only in the tribal region, he did not rule out otherwise.

"This is part of our fleet. For the last two-three years they have extensively been used in tribal areas," Aziz said.

"Right now the specialised need is the counter-terrorism operation, for which we are heavily dependent of F-16."

According to notification published in the federal register, the proposed sale improves Pakistan's capability to meet current and future security threats.

"This sale will increase the number of aircraft available to the Pakistan Air Force to sustain operations, meet monthly training requirements, and support transition training for pilots new to the Block-52. Pakistan will have no difficulty absorbing these additional aircraft into its air force," the federal register said.

As per the notification, this sale involves the release of sensitive technology to Pakistan. The F-l 6C/D Block 50/52 weapon system uses the F-16 airframe and features advanced avionics and systems.

It contains the Pratt and Whitney F-100-PW-229 engine, AN/APG-68V(9) radar, digital flight control system, external electronic warfare equipment, Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF), LINK-16 datalink, and software computer programs.



As per federal notification, if a technologically advanced adversary were to obtain knowledge of the specific hardware or software source code in this proposed sale, the information could be used to develop countermeasures which might reduce weapon system effectiveness or be used in the development of systems with similar or advanced capabilities.

The benefits to be derived from this sale in the furtherance of the US foreign policy and national security objectives outweigh the potential damage that could result if the sensitive technology were revealed to unauthorized persons, the federal notification said.
US govt issues notification for sale of F-16s to Pakistan | Zee News

Diplomatic failure of India.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Diplomatic failure of India.

Piles better say....on diplomatic front...Modi at its best Russian, Yankess find them untrusted...

 

[Airdef95]

I read an article once in which the author showed his concerns about the choice made by PAF.
This news again reminds me of the fact that were not getting these jets sooner this year.. I hope the future govt of USA will not do anything stupid!!

 

[Hammad (ISI Agent)]

Thats gud but V need block60... Isant it?

India might buy f16 block 60

 

[Khafee]

I hope our political leadership grows a backbone too

Well that is called "wishful thinking". When was the last time a thief / murderer grew a backbone?

Thats gud but V need block60... Isant it?

India might buy f16 block 60

Last time, India crapped in their pants at the thought of giving us royalties. It's not going to happen.

Diplomatic failure of India.

Hajii Sahab, quit rubbing salt on somebody's wounds

 

[My-Analogous]

Well that is called "wishful thinking". When was the last time a thief / murderer grew a backbone?


Last time, India crapped in their pants at the thought of giving us royalties. It's not going to happen.


Hajii Sahab, quit rubbing salt on somebody's wounds

Sorry i forget to mention Super power India

 

[cloud4000]

Actually we are not so excited about the 8 F-16s , whenever they are inducted its not gonna give any edge to Pakistan the only thing we would do is merge some f-16s with these ones and make a new squadron . The only thing i like about the deal is the BBQ of Indian hearts because of this deal .No offense but Thats is what India is doing for a month or so , why are you guys crying cheer up Indians you guys are getting Rafale's ,why wont you let us gareeb get 8 F-16s .

I never said anything against the sale of F-16s. I don't speak for India or other Indians, but only myself. But I like said before, both sides are making a big deal over nothing.

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Actually we are not so excited about the 8 F-16s , whenever they are inducted its not gonna give much of an edge to Pakistan the only thing we would do is merge some f-16s with these ones and make a new squadron . The only thing i like about the deal is the BBQ of Indian hearts because of this deal .No offense but Thats is what India is doing for a month or so , why are you guys crying cheer up Indians you guys are getting Rafale's ,why wont you let us gareeb get 8 F-16s .

I never said anything against the sale of F-16s. I don't speak for India or other Indians, but only myself. But I like said before, both sides are making a big deal over nothing.

ohh sorry galte sae app ko reply hogaya

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir you often reminds me a poem The Rabel where he talks about cat in dog lovers group...

The Rebel :


Do you know anyone who always disagrees with you or your friends or likes to do the opposite of what everyone thinks they should do? Think of a word to describe such a person. Discuss with your partner some of the things such a person generally does. Now read the poem.


When everybody has short hair,

The rebel lets his hair grow long.


When everybody has long hair,

The rebel cuts his hair short.


When everybody talks during the lesson,

The rebel doesn’t say a word.


When nobody talks during the lesson,

The rebel creates a disturbance.


When everybody wears a uniform,

The rebel dresses in fantastic clothes.


When everybody wears fantastic clothes,

The rebel dresses soberly.


In the company of dog lovers,

The rebel expresses a preference for cats.


In the company of cat lovers,

The rebel puts in a good word for dogs.


When everybody is praising the sun,

The rebel remarks on the need for rain.


When everybody is greeting the rain,

The rebel regrets the absence of sun.


When everybody goes to the meeting,

The rebel stays at home and reads a book.


When everybody stays at home and reads a book,

The rebel goes to the meeting.


When everybody says, Yes please,

The rebel says, No thank you.


When everybody says, No thank you,

The rebel says, Yes please.


It is very good that we have rebels.

You may not find it very good to be one.


D. J. Enright

Hi,

@markhoor so here is the poem about The Rebel----talking about cats in a dog lovers group

A very interesting book that I read ' The butcher's Boy '----the butcher---an assasin adopts an orphan boy----he teaches him the tricks of the trade---says---you want to hunt---learn it from a cat---if the cat wants you to hold him---he will let you---if he wants you to catch him---he will let you---but if he don't want to you cannot catch him---now go and catch that cat---.

The 10 years old boy goes over and grabs the cat---a little rough---the cat squirms to get out---but the boy holds it tight---suddenly the cat lashed with his hind legs and digs his claws into his skin and lunges out---leaving scratches behind. That is when the boy realized how strong the cat was.

He says---now go see how the cat hunts----he moves calmly----when he targets a prey---he moves stealthily---sits motionless for a long time till the prey realizes that there is not threat and then pounces at it at a lightening speed.

On a personal note---I have always been a dog guy---till about 3 years ago I adopted a couple of cats---big cats---10-12 lbs---. I did find out how strong they are one day when I did not let one go when he wanted to leave---.

It is amazing how he goes out and catches these little birds and shows them to us.

S----what were you saying!