US govt issues notification for sale of F-16s to Pakistan

[mingle]

Deal is through congress lastnite unopposed by anybody .so F 16s r ours .

 

[Viper0011.]

Well that is called "wishful thinking". When was the last time a thief / murderer grew a backbone?

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And.....with the previous COAS directly involved with 6 billion worth of corruption (and the one before too), plus, previous PN scandals and a current scandal getting ready to be exposed for 60+ billion on the PAF......you'd still call the politicians "the thieves" and will look the other way when your favorite people do it?

There is a reason why Pakistan is where she is. Too many fools like you, don't understand the national priorities and personal debt to your country at every level!!!!!

 

[Khafee]

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And.....with the previous COAS directly involved with 6 billion worth of corruption (and the one before too), plus, previous PN scandals and a current scandal getting ready to be exposed for 60+ billion on the PAF......you'd still call the politicians "the thieves" and will look the other way when your favorite people do it?

There is a reason why Pakistan is where she is. Too many fools like you, don't understand the national priorities and personal debt to your country at every level!!!!!

Firstly, I have nothing to do with the mess Pakistan is in, after all I'm only an honorary Pakistani on PDF.

Secondly, I NEVER said that the forces are beyond corruption, but unfortunately for you, it's not them, who have been piling on debt on the country, but the politicians.

Lastly, I would appreciate if clueless noora boys didn't address me.

Thank You!

 

[Taimoor Khan]

We are getting them for FREE .... the US govt. has to satisfy its internal structure that why the tax payer's is being spent in this way. Sartaj Aziz had to make a public case.

Nothing comes free in this world my friend. Let the yanks justify to their own, its not like we are getting 100 F-16s that we need to be apologetic and give justifications. We needed to play cool. Only good thing came out of this whole episode that Indian money on lobbying against this gone in drain and big egg on the face of that little Vermon Hussain Haqqani.

 

[MastanKhan]

I read an article once in which the author showed his concerns about the choice made by PAF.
This news again reminds me of the fact that were not getting these jets sooner this year.. I hope the future govt of USA will not do anything stupid!!

Hi,,

The delivery time would around 2 years.

 

[Mav3rick]

Ah well......another USD 700 down the drain!

The moment we actually need these Jets in an actual war, these will all be sanctioned and left without weapons/spares while India will be getting all the weapons and spares that she needs from Russia.

The person who decided to opt for 8 more of these Jets for USD 700 million should be tried for TREASON! All military procurement related relations with the US MUST be severed off. The only reliability that the US has is on her actions of imposing sanctions and bans on Pakistan the moment she doesn't need us any more.

EDIT: Just calculated that we could have produced almost 2 squadrons of JF-17 for the same cost!

 

[dadeechi]

Ah well......another USD 700 down the drain!

The moment we actually need these Jets in an actual war, these will all be sanctioned and left without weapons/spares while India will be getting all the weapons and spares that she needs from Russia.

The person who decided to opt for 8 more of these Jets for USD 700 million should be tried for TREASON! All military procurement related relations with the US MUST be severed off. The only reliability that the US has is on her actions of imposing sanctions and bans on Pakistan the moment she doesn't need us any more.

EDIT: Just calculated that we could have produced almost 2 squadrons of JF-17 for the same cost!

The F-16s are being paid through US FMF. So there is no question of using that money for the JF-17s instead.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker notified the Obama administration that he would not approve using U.S. funds to pay for the planes through the foreign military financing (FMF) program. That means Pakistan must fund the purchase itself, instead of relying on U.S. funds to cover about 46 percent of the cost.

Given the funds it has available, Pakistan may be able to buy only four of the F-16 Block 52 models, and the associated radar and electronic warfare equipment, said one U.S. source familiar with the situation.

Corker told Secretary of State John Kerry in a letter that he was concerned about Pakistan's ties to the Haqqani network, a militant group that U.S. officials have said is behind attacks in Afghanistan.


"I may reconsider my blanket hold on U.S. FMF assistance should the Pakistanis make progress on addressing my significant concerns about their support for the Haqqani network, but for now, if they wish to purchase this military equipment, they will do so without a subsidy from the American taxpayer," he wrote.

U.S. OKs sale of 8 Lockheed F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan - Pentagon| Reuters

 

[Mr304_AJ]

Check out some real fact and detail:
The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) has notified Congress of a potential $699.04m foreign military sale (FMS) of F-16 Block 52 aircraft and associated equipment, training, and logistics support to Pakistan.

Under the deal, the Government of Pakistan has requested major defence equipment (MDE) comprising of six F-16D Block 52 aircraft and two F-16C Block 52 aircraft with the F100-PW-229 increased performance engine besides 14 joint helmet mounted cueing systems (JHMCS).

Additionally, the contract will cover non-MDE items including eight AN/APG-68(V) 9 radars, and eight ALQ-211(V) 9 advanced integrated defensive electronic warfare suites (AIDEWS).

Additionally, the potential sale will include spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, the US Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and programme support.

 

[Who.Cares]

People forget that this deal is being financed via FMF. President submitted request in budget request to Congress. If Congress approves, money will be disbursed in October. Delivery won't happen till 2017.

You are right. Until the aircraft are in Pakistan's hands anything can happen.

The Damage is Done.

Meanwhile in India:
Let me save money on Rafale deal: Manohar Parrikar
I am a tough negotiator, let me save money: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Rafale deal : india

The supa powa tryna save some $$$. France should put "Fixed" price tag on jets to make it easy for him.

 

[Maarkhoor]

The F-16s are being paid through US FMF. So there is no question of using that money for the JF-17s instead.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker notified the Obama administration that he would not approve using U.S. funds to pay for the planes through the foreign military financing (FMF) program. That means Pakistan must fund the purchase itself, instead of relying on U.S. funds to cover about 46 percent of the cost.

Given the funds it has available, Pakistan may be able to buy only four of the F-16 Block 52 models, and the associated radar and electronic warfare equipment, said one U.S. source familiar with the situation.

Corker told Secretary of State John Kerry in a letter that he was concerned about Pakistan's ties to the Haqqani network, a militant group that U.S. officials have said is behind attacks in Afghanistan.


"I may reconsider my blanket hold on U.S. FMF assistance should the Pakistanis make progress on addressing my significant concerns about their support for the Haqqani network, but for now, if they wish to purchase this military equipment, they will do so without a subsidy from the American taxpayer," he wrote.

U.S. OKs sale of 8 Lockheed F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan - Pentagon| Reuters

Listen little b---t that news u quoted is old 12 Feb now every thing clear....feeling pity for u people... better u hire professional mourner Rudali for this job....

The Damage is Done.

Meanwhile in India:
Let me save money on Rafale deal: Manohar Parrikar
I am a tough negotiator, let me save money: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Rafale deal : india

The supa powa tryna save some $$$. France should put "Fixed" price tag on jets to make it easy for him.

You mean Bata Rates no negotiations ... its called boot on face ... don't have money OK get out ...don't show u r ------------again.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Parmano Saksham F sola ladaka vayomaan kardiye Pakistan ke hawalay...kiya nazar andaz bharat ka virodh...

 

[The Sandman]

Parmano Saksham F sola ladaka vayomaan kardiye Pakistan ke hawalay...kiya nazar andaz bharat ka virodh...

bwahahahaha oh man i thought i am really good at this but damn....

 

[Mav3rick]

The F-16s are being paid through US FMF. So there is no question of using that money for the JF-17s instead.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker notified the Obama administration that he would not approve using U.S. funds to pay for the planes through the foreign military financing (FMF) program. That means Pakistan must fund the purchase itself, instead of relying on U.S. funds to cover about 46 percent of the cost.

Given the funds it has available, Pakistan may be able to buy only four of the F-16 Block 52 models, and the associated radar and electronic warfare equipment, said one U.S. source familiar with the situation.

Corker told Secretary of State John Kerry in a letter that he was concerned about Pakistan's ties to the Haqqani network, a militant group that U.S. officials have said is behind attacks in Afghanistan.


"I may reconsider my blanket hold on U.S. FMF assistance should the Pakistanis make progress on addressing my significant concerns about their support for the Haqqani network, but for now, if they wish to purchase this military equipment, they will do so without a subsidy from the American taxpayer," he wrote.

U.S. OKs sale of 8 Lockheed F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan - Pentagon| Reuters

I don't understand your post, on the one hand it states that the Jets are being funded through US FMF and on the other hand it states that the person who has a veto on FMF has withheld funding.

Either way, if it is indeed the case that we are not spending our own money then the funds should have been used for AH-1Z's rather then the almost useless (in quantity of 8) F-16's.

 

[Windjammer]

The US simply can not ignore or deny Pakistan, for it knows it loses any leverage that it may hold.
Remember it's not just the question of Eight F-16s but also the associated weapon systems that come with it, like the AMRAAMs US supplied which are very efficient against the Toyota pick up trucks the Taliban drive about or the JHMCS, which can locate terrorists hiding in caves, All in all, the F-16 is a dedicated anti-Taliban system.

 

[ZedZeeshan]

The US simply can not ignore or deny Pakistan, for it knows it loses any leverage that it may hold.
Remember it's not just the question of Eight F-16s but also the associated weapon systems that come with it, like the AMRAAMs US supplied which are very efficient against the Toyota pick up trucks the Taliban drive about or the JHMCS, which can locate terrorists hiding in caves, All in all, the F-16 is a dedicated anti-Taliban system.

Out of all these weapons which are the ones PAF is using..?