US formally backs Japan against Russia, considers Kuril islands as Japanese land

[Leishangthem]

Japan against Russia is like India against China. It will be a slaughter

Many Chinese are worse than Indians when it concerns matters pertaining to Japan.A mirror would be advisable when you go on your next round of " mock Indian delusion" rally.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

In theory Soviets opposed the Treaty of San Francisco. What is the point here ?

Because US backtracked Yalta agreement and did not recognize the South Kurils as Russian land.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Thats rich coming from an Indian!

To be honest, he's right though.
However, all major colonial/expansionist power are somehow similar in that aspect.

 

[nahtanbob]

Because US backtracked Yalta agreement and did not recognize the South Kurils as Russian land.

A lot of things in the Yalta agreement were not followed
free elections in Poland and Eastern Europe

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

A lot of things in the Yalta agreement were not followed
free elections in Poland and Eastern Europe

There is election in East Europe now. So US should also follow Yalta and recognize South Kurils as Russian land.

 

[vostok]

US can recognize or not recognize anything in this world. Nobody cares.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Americans and Japanese trying to block the Russians and Chinese from access to the Pacific. Probably will do what Americans do on many of the other islands, use them as military bases to threaten R and C.
Everyone better be careful. Japanese could launch a surprise attack on anybody at any moment. Did it to the Chinese, Russians and Americans.

 

[HassanCheema]

Japanese forces doesn't have will to fight for a single day.
They are not even allow to shoot down north korean missiles over hokkaido region.so all those fancy toys are all talk.

Kurli islands simply don't deserve any purpose other than pride.so Japanese govt,nation will not go to war over it.

Remember russia and china can squeeze japan via north korea threat.

 

[zectech]

Japanese forces doesn't have will to fight for a single day.
They are not even allow to shoot down north korean missiles over hokkaido region.so all those fancy toys are all talk.

Kurli islands simply don't deserve any purpose other than pride.so Japanese govt,nation will not go to war over it.

Remember russia and china can squeeze japan via north korea threat.

Remember the eternal enemy of Japan...

"Before we're through with them, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell"
- US Admiral Halsey

Chinese are half-brothers to Japanese.

US collapsed Japan's rise twice...

baited the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor:

And then had Wall Street enrich themselves before during and after the Asian Financial Crisis, that hit Japan at the knees to stop her from overtaking the US in GDP.

Washington has a racial hatred toward East Asians.

Japan made one mistake during WWII, they went for oil in the south (indonesia). They should have made peace with China and went for oil in the Caucasus with an invasion of Russia. Japan is not going to have another opportunity like that. Take out Russia in two fronts during WWII, and we would be typing in German and Japanese now. Which would not be that bad, better than English.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Russia has always been a snake.
Japan should develop its military in the next decade to match the Russians .
Japan has far stronger economy then russia and can outspend on military multiple times if they desire so,Japan have far more competent human resource with high iq,the ingenuity and work ethic unmatched ,a nation with such pedigree and advancement in science an tech souldn't allow a rag tag russia to push em around.

Distance Sevastopol Vladivostok 7000+ km connected by road not passing another country. Japan is tiny compared to Russia. In the 1800s Russian ships sailed between Baltic and Pacific, Japanese ships only had a dozen km range. Japan did not colonize the new world the way Europeans such as Russians did.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Japanese forces doesn't have will to fight for a single day.
They are not even allow to shoot down north korean missiles over hokkaido region.so all those fancy toys are all talk.

Kurli islands simply don't deserve any purpose other than pride.so Japanese govt,nation will not go to war over it.

Remember russia and china can squeeze japan via north korea threat.

Plus modern Japanese men are wussies, not disciplined like their grandfather generation. They are too wussy to fight.

 

[Figaro]

Russia has always been a snake.
Japan should develop its military in the next decade to match the Russians .
Japan has far stronger economy then russia and can outspend on military multiple times if they desire so,Japan have far more competent human resource with high iq,the ingenuity and work ethic unmatched ,a nation with such pedigree and advancement in science an tech souldn't allow a rag tag russia to push em around.

Japan is in better shape than Russia right now but not by much either. The golden age for Japan was in the late 1980s/early 1990s and it too is declining fast ... the long term economic outlook and especially the demographics of Japan is quite horrible to say the least. Besides, no matter how much stuff Japan develops, Russia holds the nukes anyway.

Japan against Russia is like India against China. It will be a slaughter

No it wouldn't ... if anything, the converse holds more true. Russia would probably get a huge beating if it fought JMSDF. The performance of Russia weapons systems were already on display for Armenia ... do you really think Russia would be in a much better position? Japan has an extremely formidable navy that was just until the past decade second only to the US in the Western Pacific. Meanwhile, the Russian Far East fleet has been in consistent decline since the late Soviet era, as is the case with most of the Russian military.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No it wouldn't ... if anything, the converse holds more true. Russia would probably get a huge beating if it fought JMSDF. The performance of Russia weapons systems were already on display for Armenia ... do you really think Russia would be in a much better position? Japan has an extremely formidable navy that was just until the past decade second only to the US in the Western Pacific. Meanwhile, the Russian Far East fleet has been in consistent decline since the late Soviet era, as is the case with most of the Russian military.

Anyone who thinks Russia is as weak as Artsakh needs a check in the head. Russia is in no way shape or form comparable to Artsakh in terms of military power.

Meanwhile, the Russian Far East fleet has been in consistent decline since the late Soviet era, as is the case with most of the Russian military.

While it is true the Russian Pacific fleet is weak, it is building up rapidly and now has an AESA equipped warship which not even Japan or the US has. Other than Russia, only China has AESA equipped warships in the Pacific. Russia has technological advantage over Japan and the US in the Pacific. On top of that, in the event of a Japanese invasion of Kurils, China will certainly get involved in the fight too. And the Chinese navy is no joke.

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[bshifter]

Both China and Russia got a big fish to fry and it's not sushi that's on our menu.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Both China and Russia got a big fish to fry and it's not sushi that's on our menu.

although if we get free sushi, who is to refuse it?