US forces will continue to go after threats on Pakistani soil: Obama

[@RV]

Very sad state of affairs in Pakistan. A lot of innocent civilians get killed in these drone strikes. Pakistan just need to show some courage and shoot down one drone. Americans will cry and shout for some time and then stop. Nobody is going to go for war against a nuclear-armed nation. Just you need to show some balls and it will end once and for all.

 

[Dalit]

during musharaf period american drones used to fly from pakistani airstrip... that seems to have stopped.. after 9/11 musharaf basically said I will do whatever you tell us to do, to american leadership.

You can see where Musharraf's eagerness to serve the Americans got him...

Sorry but the stats would say otherwise - the frequency of drone strikes has been cut down by 85% since past year, Since there are very few targets left for them in Pakistan. What i see is Americans no more do it every third day.

Your PM was informed about the attack. That means it all happened with the conscent of the govt which basically represents the majority of people. What are you crying about?

If you have people wanted by them on your soil, they are gonna come hard. And you can do literally nothing about it. We all already know how much the both countries have the mutual trust.

Then, tell your PM to stop sobbing in front of the people of Pakistan. On the one hand, Nawaz Sharif says that the strike violates the sovereignty of his country. On the other hand, you are telling me that everything happened with the consent of the government. Which is it? Either the PM is lying or he is hand in glove with the Americans and that is exactly my point. These lies have tarnished Pakistan. Its leaders lie to its people. Don't you see it?

Stop being a hypocrite and at least own up on whose side you really are. Be honest and transparent regarding US drone strikes. At least we won't be having this discussion after every drone strike. We will accept our fate because we don't have the ability to defend our land against miscreants. Let's call a spade a spade.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

These Americans are at war with Pakistan because Pakistani soil is a very very broad term. I frankly can't wait for Trump who will even plan troop incursions. Yet, some people here are dreaming about American F-16s... LOL

Pakistanis should also gear up for mass drone strikes in Balochistan. Something I have been predicting for years. Balochistan has always been their prime target. They cannot fathom Balochistan as part of Pakistan. Even more so after China has gained access to this rich province. Some Pakistanis were rejoicing drone strikes on their soil in the FATA region. Now, they are going to strike at will even in Balochistan and elsewhere so your wish has been granted. Drone strikes are going to be a reality in other places in Pakistan. Pakistani soil means Karachi, Peshawar, Lahore etc. could all be next on the list because high value militants could be hiding everywhere and anywhere, right? Besides, the Americans aren't hiding their motives at all. The chickens are now coming home to roost.

I trust the Pakistan's army and Pakistan's ISI to give an adequate and a fitting reply to those who carry malicious intent on our state, they have given such replies many times in the past and will continue to do so today, I suggest you to continue to have trust in them too.

They will be answered.

 

[livingdead]

Thinking like a Pakistani politician the only two options seem to be either prepare for war or just sit there arms folded and do nothing about this. Make the nation a laughing stock. Unfortunately for us these are the only two extremes to chose from as we never have heard about diplomacy. As we have no one competent enough in our parliament to device a foreign policy that can take us through this mess with minimal embarrassment and maximum gain. We suck at diplomacy that is why we never are able to find that moderate way to handle such situations. It is either war or just criminal negligence from which to chose.

Starting from Musharaf, pak leadership are hand in gloves with US, in bombing tribal areas. Pathan civilian death is worth it, if it provides 10 % chance of killing some terrorists. Its cheap for americans(and PA too) but deadly for civilians.
If pak leadership(army and civilian) really want, they can flood the whole world with pictures of whats going on in drone strikes. Most people in the world will support pakistan in this. They can bring the topic in UN for discussion, again and again. Most pakistani bother more about palestine than people on western border, so its not only leaders.

 

[Side-Winder]

Then, tell your PM to stop sobbing in front of the people of Pakistan. Nawaz Sharif says that the strike violates the sovereignty of his country on the one hand. On the otherhand, you are telling me that everything happened with the consent of the government. Which is it? Either the PM is lying or he is hand in glove with the Americans and that is exactly my point.

Stop being a hypocrite and at least own up on whose side you really are.

Atleast i didn't vote for him.
But that doesn't matter - Americans will do it either way - with our protest or conscent. What im saying is that the frequency is down by 85% so please stop telling us how americans plan to take on baluchistan and then peshawer islamabad etc. What we can really do is keep on hunting ours and theirs terrorists on our soil alike until they find no more targets in our country. Now you're at a point where you have ZERO international support on the matter.

 

[Dalit]

I trust the Pakistan's army and Pakistan's ISI to give an adequate and a fitting reply to those who carry malicious intent on our state, they have given such replies many times in the past and will continue to do so today, I suggest you to continue to have trust in them too.

It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of transparency. The people have the right to know what the official stance of the government and establishment is when innocent people are killed in American drone strikes. It's not a normal and healthy thing when a country violates the territory of another nation to fire missiles and kill people.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of transparency. The people have the right to know what the official stance of the government and establishment is when innocent people are killed in American drone strikes. It's not a normal thing when another country violates the territory of another nation to fire missiles and kill people.

There are ways to answer and transparency with an orgasmic bravado and shouting to the world is not always in the interest of one own-self, I trust in my army, we are still here and we still stand today, that is enough of a proof for me to continue to trust them.

 

[Dalit]

There are ways to answer and transparency with an orgasmic bravado and shouting to the world is not always in the interest of one own-self, I trust in my army, we are still here and we still stand today, that is enough of a proof for me to continue to trust them.

That's not how the world works. This war has destroyed Pakistan's economy and infrastructure. It has destroyed the hopes of the ordinary people. Trust alone won't cut it anymore. The people need answers and they need to know how and why a country can fire missiles at will on its territory without the supposed approval of the government. The people need to know the truth because the condemnations add more salt to the injury.

Atleast i didn't vote for him.
But that doesn't matter - Americans will do it either way - with our protest or conscent. What im saying is that the frequency is down by 85% so please stop telling us how americans plan to take on baluchistan and then peshawer islamabad etc. What we can really do is keep on hunting ours and theirs terrorists on our soil alike until they find no more targets in our country. Now you're at a point where you have ZERO international support on the matter.

We already know that the Americans are going to do however they wish, but that is not the point of contention. The government and the establishment need to clarify their position to the people.

1. As a concerned citizen, I would want to know how the Americans are able to carry out drone strikes despite our governments disapproval?

2. We spend billions of taxpayers dollars on military equipment. Today, the Americans are violating our sovereignty. Tomorrow, any other nation could do the same. I want to know whether we are allowing the Americans to strike at will, or whether we are unable to do anything about these strikes knowingly.

3. You cannot just shrug off this strike in Balochistan as something minor. You have been doing this for far too long in FATA. This strike is a major concern because the Americans have clearly stated that their reach is the Pakistani soil. You do understand how lose this definition is, right?

I don't care whether the drone strikes are down by 85% or 99%. Even one drone strike without the permission of the government is one too many. Don't try to downplay sovereignty infringement as something minor. Just look at the Iranian response as far as sovereignty infringement is concerned.

As for international support. I know what international support means nowadays. Ask Iraq, Syria and other nations who have had international support and where it got them.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

That's not how the world works. This war has destroyed Pakistan's economy and infrastructure. It has destroyed the hopes of the ordinary people. Trust alone won't cut it anymore. The people need answers and they need to know how and why a country can fire missiles at will on its territory without the supposed approval of the government.

There were three American aircraft carriers present just outside the coast of Karachi in 2001 ready to bomb us back to the stone age, our very own survival in itself is an achievement, only a fool would threaten his enemies and expose his own intent like for example Iran threatening to wipe out Israel off the face of the map, we outwitted the US and survived their war mongering, Pakistan today is not Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria or Libya because we know how to fight for our own interest and sorry sir but this is exactly how the world of today works, lies, false flags and deceit.

Every drone strike will be repaid in full.

 

[Roybot]

And what do you propose to do? Do a superman special and knock all the drones out. Wait won't that lead to war with USA? No worries. Come on USA, Come on India, Come Isreal. We are going to thump you all.

Obama has stated his challange clearly. That US will strike where it needs to in Pakistan. Now the ball is in Pakistan's court. Do we prepare for war? And do we say " dare try it again".

Taking those drone out is as easy as squatting flies. The problem is what happens after. That would amount to declaring war on USA. So the question is not can we knock the drones out because that is easy. The real question is does Pakistan want a war with USA over the drones?

That is something Pakistan has to decide. So far the pointers suggest Pakistan does not want war with USA over the drones.

Or you could just stop backing the Afghan Taliban which is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghan civilians! Surely that's the safest and most easiest option?

 

[mkiyani]

they know no one in pakistan including our army (7th largest and powerful) will not stop them.. held them responsible for their crimes against pakistan (like raymons davis and so on...) what if its india who strikes in pakistan than what would be our answer ... i think everyone knows the answer...

 

[wadi79]

A terrorist has been killed. I think the world is a little bit safer because of that. Yet, all I can see from Pakistani members is breast-beating on how sovereignty has been breached, how Pakistan has been attacked, how the US is unreliable etc. The only one breaching sovereignty of Pakistan here was the terrorist in question - and now he is dead thanks to the US. I would have thought Pakistanis would be happy that a problem they were unable to deal with has been solved by someone else.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

These idiots need to make up their mind...

They just killed a Taliban Leader during peace talks and still peruse peace?

He called on the Taliban’s remaining leadership to engage in peace talks as the “only real path” to ending the attritional conflict.

A terrorist has been killed. I think the world is a little bit safer because of that. Yet, all I can see from Pakistani members is breast-beating on how sovereignty has been breached, how Pakistan has been attacked, how the US is unreliable etc. The only one breaching sovereignty of Pakistan here was the terrorist in question - and now he is dead thanks to the US. I would have thought Pakistanis would be happy that a problem they were unable to deal with has been solved by someone else.

Ofcourse we're glad a terrorist is dead, but the fact is - US decided to kill him when we were about to begin peace talks and finally bring stabilization to the region; it is hypocrisy.

 

[1971+]

Wonder what Nawaz Sharif has got to say about that.

I wonder, now will he have to choose between his country's sovereignity or rearing good terrorists .

 

[GURU DUTT]

This guy Obama is echoing Vajpayee's language, "Aaar-Paar ki ladhai!"

Kahi US ka prez Obama Bharat ka agent tou nahi??!!!

naah he is just trying to make some "soft" noises before he goes cause deu to his domestik wrong decission so called "patriotik yamricans" are not too happy with him specially what happenned in bengazi or giving latest weapons to pakistan even after 5/11 trust me once new president comes its gonna be buisness as usual