US finds action against Haqqani network inadequate

[Indus Falcon]

the US military will appraise the president and the congress eventually just like it has done in the past and they will release the funds .. its not the first time they suspended them.

but like I said our operation will continue nonetheless and with or without fund we need to fight this war together with our Afghan and American allies and not let TTP, Taliban or Daesh call the shots against us. the attacks on Kabul that ha\ve been owned by Afghan taliban are against our interest and damaging as well so we should hurt them back equally to bring sense in them.

Before we move on to Afghanistan, we should focus on economic terrorists, TTP, BLA, etc, basically within our borders first.

 

[Long Live India]

They just needed Pakistan for Afghanistan war. Now that they are pulling troops out, suddenly they remembered they should not pay Pakistan anymore. What a coincidence. U.S is an 'ally' as long countries bend down to them or serve strategic interest of U.S or give them some good benefit.

Please tell me what wrong are they doing ? Haqani network is a terrorist organization and they have American soldiers or coalition forces many time in the past. They poured their money to fight against this menace. If Pakistan took it to fight against terrorism then they should go against each and every terrorist group.

thats the thing which some simple people dont understand. like paying rent for using ports/ sites, paying toll for using roads or bills for utilities.
anyways.. the "AID" has been suspended in the past but that meant we blocked / banned them from using our facilities too. the operations against the terrorists continued with or without the "AID" anyway. so will operation Zerb e Azb.. it has been hurting hard the Indians so their lobby managed to get the funding blocked.

Tell me honestly, have you done anything against haqanis ? You keep on taking money and did nothing. You are still doing the same thing and blaming it on Americans.

 

[Serpentine]

Please tell me what wrong are they doing ? Haqani network is a terrorist organization and they have American soldiers or coalition forces many time in the past. They poured their money to fight against this menace. If Pakistan took it to fight against terrorism then they should go against each and every terrorist group.

While at the same time, they have empowered various terrorist groups in Syria.

This whole War on Terror is nothing but a huge sham. There are those terrorists who act based on U.S interests, hence good terrorists and there are those who act against it, which are bad terrorists.

No one can expect U.S to give them free money, but no one can also say U.S is fighting 'terror' in all good faith.

 

[Providence]

While at the same time, they have empowered various terrorist groups in Syria.

This whole War on Terror is nothing but a huge sham. There are those terrorists who act based on U.S interests, hence good terrorists and there are those who act against it, which are bad terrorists.

No one can expect U.S to give them free money, but no one can also say U.S is fighting 'terror' in all good faith.

So ? Did we ask for any money ? We will do what we think is good.

 

[Long Live India]

While at the same time, they have empowered various terrorist groups in Syria.

This whole War on Terror is nothing but a huge sham. There are those terrorists who act based on U.S interests, hence good terrorists and there are those who act against it, which are bad terrorists.

No one can expect U.S to give them free money, but no one can also say U.S is fighting 'terror' in all good faith.

Sir reports say the same thing about Iran also. Hezbullah, Palestine terrorist groups are not creation of god. You made/support them for your interests. You are not fighting in Syria because you stand with truth but you are fighting for your interests. The day Asad (if he survive) in future will ask kurds to look at Iran, it will be the day you will start bombing Syria. Either Pakistan should not have jumped in, If they have jumped in they should finish their job. Anyways after saving haqanis they are not doing favor on this world, they are just creating problem for Afghanistan.

 

[Providence]

Sir reports say the same thing about Iran also. Hezbullah, Palestine terrorist groups are not creation of god. You made them for your interests. You are not fighting in Syria because you stand with truth but you are fighting for your interests. The day Asad (if he survive) in future will ask kurds to look at Iran, it will be the day you will start bombing Syria. Either Pakistan should not have jumped in, If they have jumped in they should finish their job. Anyways after saving haqanis they are not doing favor on this world, they are just creating problem for Afghanistan.

That's rule of nature. You play a tight rope and balance all the stakeholders and achieve the objectives. That's the essence of life of an individual and a country likewise and it is exactly what Assad is doing.

Day he fails, he is gonna hang from a noose in a yard arm !

 

[Solomon2]

Story looks premature to me. Was "leaked" for a reason.

 

[Serpentine]

Sir reports say the same thing about Iran also. Hezbullah, Palestine terrorist groups are not creation of god. You made/support them for your interests. You are not fighting in Syria because you stand with truth but you are fighting for your interests. The day Asad (if he survive) in future will ask kurds to look at Iran, it will be the day you will start bombing Syria. Either Pakistan should not have jumped in, If they have jumped in they should finish their job. Anyways after saving haqanis they are not doing favor on this world, they are just creating problem for Afghanistan.

I don't care about Haqqanis, they are terrorists, let them rot in hell.

And why is Hezbollah terrorists? How many civilians have they killed? How many countries consider them terrorists? About 15, while rest of the world doesn't think so. Only because U.S or allies say someone is terrorist doesn't mean they are terrorist. Terrorism is the most abused word in recent history. Unlike U.S, we are not bearing the flag of 'Global War on Terror' bragging about fighting terrorism on global scale.

 

[Long Live India]

I don't care about Haqqanis, they are terrorists, let them rot in hell.

And why is Hezbollah terrorists? How many civilians have they killed? How many countries consider them terrorists? About 15, while rest of the world doesn't think so. Only because U.S or allies say someone is terrorist doesn't mean they are terrorist. Terrorism is the most abused word in recent history. Unlike U.S, we are not bearing the flag of 'Global War on Terror' bragging about fighting terrorism on global scale.

Who knows about PJAK, Jundullah then ? They also are freedom fighters or rebellions. If you don't understand the difference then the one mentioned are also not terrorists (for me they are animals and should be killed because they have blood of innocents in their hand. They are same like other terrorist groups are for me)

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Where did @Providence go ? I was only messing with my American Brother !

lol yr still at it.

u DONT GET THAT DO U?

 

[VCheng]

the US military will appraise the president and the congress eventually just like it has done in the past and they will release the funds .. its not the first time they suspended them.

but like I said our operation will continue nonetheless and with or without fund we need to fight this war together with our Afghan and American allies and not let TTP, Taliban or Daesh call the shots against us. the attacks on Kabul that ha\ve been owned by Afghan taliban are against our interest and damaging as well so we should hurt them back equally to bring sense in them.

Of course due legal process will be followed in the US, as you point out, but Pakistan already knew that this would be the last year for CSF, having been on extension for one year as the program proper ended last year. The previous tranche of $370 million was released out of funds for this extended year already, so even this will not be a total loss, even if the rest of the money is not made available. There is always the possibility that yet another program of military assistance will be created as needed.

 

[Providence]

Where did @Providence go ? I was only messing with my American Brother !

Exams

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Of course due legal process will be followed in the US, as you point out, but Pakistan already knew that this would be the last year for CSF, having been on extension for one year as the program proper ended last year. The previous tranche of $370 million was released out of funds for this extended year already, so even this will not be a total loss, even if the rest of the money is not made available. There is always the possibility that yet another program of military assistance will be created as needed.

America knows that Pakistan's war against TTP doesn't need any convincing and would have continued even without any support. but any form of support is most welcome and helpful.

it is absolutely necessary that we satisfy our allies whatever Pakistan military has committed and agreed with USA and accepted the funding for it.
nothings can be more precious than the national interests and its survival. haqqanis or whatever need to stop the violence against Kabul regime for the sake of the future of Afghanistan. . the Afghan taliban survived due to the buffer of Pashton belt between Afghanistan and Pakistan and if they think they will upgrade themselves to the level of TTP against Pakistan and still survive then they will be mistaken.

American drones already operate against suspected sites and Pakistan military is already in the area so this is effectively a joint operation. I am sick of this bickering and lack of trust. I know that the hostile forces will do whatever they can by conducting terror attacks against Afghans, Americans and Pakistan to cause rift and misunderstanding and recent back to back attacks on Kabul are a proof of that the plan worked perfectly effectively stalling the trilateral peace talks in Murree.

hopefully Gen Raheel can outsmart and out think those who planned and supported the more volatile Afghan taliban/ haqanis to attack Kabul and as per script managed to get the blame on Pakistan

my personal view? total extermination of all Afghan taliban inside Pakistan until they dont surrender themselves to us and we hand them over to Afghan government. .

 

[General General]

So ? Did we ask for any money ? We will do what we think is good for the U.S to expand its influence.

Fixed for you. A few years ago the U.S. was on Syria's arse to get rid of its chemical weapons. They obliged and international teams promptly took charge of these weapons and disposed of them. All this while the U.S. was on rearing for carrying out an all-out war with Syria.
But when the chemical weapons were gone, it took out the rug of reason for war with Syria. There was no other reason for them to attack Syria. And we all know war is the U.S favourite past-time sport, so it didn't bode well with them. They began stirring up trouble by training and funding all and everyone who they could buy to fight against the government. They were termed as "the opposition" which created havoc and the resulting mess is there for everyone to see.
What was Syria's fault? It was allied with Russia. And the U.S. can't handle that, just as we are seeing now the shift away from Pakistan. They have found a new country to manipulate to keep unrest with China and Pakistan, while slowly prying it away from the Russian nest.

 

[Providence]

Fixed for you. A few years ago the U.S. was on Syria's arse to get rid of its chemical weapons. They obliged and international teams promptly took charge of these weapons and disposed of them. All this while the U.S. was on rearing for carrying out an all-out war with Syria.
But when the chemical weapons were gone, it took out the rug of reason for war with Syria. There was no other reason for them to attack Syria. And we all know war is the U.S favourite past-time sport, so it didn't bode well with them. They began stirring up trouble by training and funding all and everyone who they could buy to fight against the government. They were termed as "the opposition" which created havoc and the resulting mess is there for everyone to see.
What was Syria's fault? It was allied with Russia. And the U.S. can't handle that, just as we are seeing now the shift away from Pakistan. They have found a new country to manipulate to keep unrest with China and Pakistan, while slowly prying it away from the Russian nest.

WOuld have rebutted the answer point by point but I will rest my case after what you just said.