US Embassies in Pakistan and Iraq under security Alerts: US media

[AmschelHonestvig]

I wish Pakistan could relocate to South America for a few decades while the others expend themselves here in this region. We need a break.

The Iranians want to send Israel there too - maybe we can move together - help each other with the removal van ; start a new latina love era ... dance the salsa ...

So u would than understand us bombing iran indian embassy ?? Really?

Do it sub contact it to Iranian Opposition groups, you can dicuss on fuirms like this and satellite tv channels analysts can go rabid at each pother afterwards... using beautiful persian insults at each other Hor*mzod. etc...

An action by iranian groups within in iran is democratic right...
they pincer you with the Indian union when you are weaker spot; and therre is no shortage of Iranian/Kurdish Opposition grouips..

"...sorry for loss of life -That is Iran's Internal turmoil problems.." is a nice resonse from a foreign secretary..

Thats the difference between Israel and Rest of ME, act first speak later - you speak for years and act never.

 

[Zibago]

2. Pakistanians are a stakeholder - influential holding aces at this moment; whether they gamble, play or spectate?

Nah we learned the hard lesson dont play US games just watch them
It took us 10 years to get out of the mess the initial decision to back US was a wrong one

4. Yanks wont give you the Planes, but in your Public media you should call out the US for more assistance like Patriot, missiles for existing US hardware; send your wishlist to Santa Trump ; he might not be around after November for next xmas..

US hardware is an on and off switch we prefer the more cooperative nature of China when it comes to hardware sources I mean give it some years and they start talking of joint production while with US the threat of sanctions is always in the air

The Chinese will squeeze you - their assistance will come at a price too.

Actually the economic future of both Pakistan and China is intertwined we are in it for the long game that is why China has surpassed the US as our number 1 trading partner

 

[chauvunist]

My friend,

You do bring in a different perspective... and you argue your thesis with your logic. A welcome sight to engage in logical discourse. We dont'have to agree but we can exchange views.. thatz why an open forum!

It is your choice but avoid trolls... ignore them/report them and move on...

Here is the challenge that Pak faces.... we need to secure OurBalochistan at all costs... CPEC is NOT the only reason.

Annexing Persian side of Balochistan has both advantages and disadvantages.... so we cann't just bite the bait with eyes closed.... and this needs a very deep and long term planning post annexation... provided Yanks-Persian remain occupied and there is conclusion to the conflict.

Please, remember there is a very deep relationship between Persians and Yanks.. they love each other...and Mullahz are very rational and business minded...

So this Trump action is a bit of mystery.... on surface it appears stupid... but this is NOT Trumps doing... he is just Twitter Pres... it is US Deepstate... so they have an end game in mind...

WE are fully aware that the GanguFacistRegime of R. SS Naziz is dying to create their super state of PundBharat...

Also we need to take the Chinese sensitivities into account... NO FREE Lunches.... and the Chinese wish to invest 400+$ Bln in Persia....

So, your idea of annexation of Persian side of OurBalochistan is a bit tricky enterprise...

Anyhow, good to read a different perspective.... looking forward to your indepth work on RSSNazi Regime... you are the only Jew here who has so openly taken such a view... others go all song and dance on Ganguz calling them their strategic partner...

Don't people in your country understand what these Facist RSS mean?

Jinnah warned everyone about the HinduEmpire and we are still fighting it...

Once again it is your choice..but avoid trolls... report...move on... give respect and get in return.

Nobody has the right to insult you because of your religion!!! Tag mods and they will take action!

All the best!

Mangus

The killing does seem suspicious...Considering widespread protests in Iraq against Iranian backed government and some level of social discord of Iranian people against the current Ayatollah based regime, this assassination has perfectly united people in both countries in line with of Iranian regime...Now even if US leaves Iraq, It would leave Iraq in the hands of Iranian backed govt very firmly...Much like with the creation of ISIS in Syria and Iraq, which benefited both Iran and US alike, it does seem a similar situation. .

 

[AmschelHonestvig]

My friend,

You do bring in a different perspective... and you argue your thesis with your logic. A welcome sight to engage in logical discourse. We dont'have to agree but we can exchange views.. thatz why an open forum!

It is your choice but avoid trolls... ignore them/report them and move on...

Here is the challenge that Pak faces.... we need to secure OurBalochistan at all costs... CPEC is NOT the only reason.

Annexing Persian side of Balochistan has both advantages and disadvantages.... so we cann't just bite the bait with eyes closed.... and this needs a very deep and long term planning post annexation... provided Yanks-Persian remain occupied and there is conclusion to the conflict.

Please, remember there is a very deep relationship between Persians and Yanks.. they love each other...and Mullahz are very rational and business minded...

So this Trump action is a bit of mystery.... on surface it appears stupid... but this is NOT Trumps doing... he is just Twitter Pres... it is US Deepstate... so they have an end game in mind...

WE are fully aware that the GanguFacistRegime of R. SS Naziz is dying to create their super state of PundBharat...

Also we need to take the Chinese sensitivities into account... NO FREE Lunches.... and the Chinese wish to invest 400+$ Bln in Persia....

So, your idea of annexation of Persian side of OurBalochistan is a bit tricky enterprise...

Anyhow, good to read a different perspective.... looking forward to your indepth work on RSSNazi Regime... you are the only Jew here who has so openly taken such a view... others go all song and dance on Ganguz calling them their strategic partner...

Don't people in your country understand what these Facist RSS mean?

Jinnah warned everyone about the HinduEmpire and we are still fighting it...

Once again it is your choice..but avoid trolls... report...move on... give respect and get in return.

Nobody has the right to insult you because of your religion!!! Tag mods and they will take action!

All the best!

Mangus

Hi Mangus

Thank You - The Israel-Pakistan friendship lobby exist at many level but it is not as popular and at best transactional -

Pakistanians still hold on to the defunct Pro-palestine narrative wilst the militatry and certin nitellectuals can be pragmatic..

Israelis and Jewish diaspora have very different temperaments ; plus where you emigrated from back home to israel makes a big difference, some are scrred delply by the Nazis, holocasut shoah, and some who did not experience this in their families say those form USSR, whilst those of us from the Arab world take a different view due out different experience but common theme of sffereing from persecution..

Yes, you're quire right the US has many institutions - Trump is on the wholse part anti-war so it seems strange for him to defend this ; he would not be involved in a split second decision like this...

hes seeemd to approved it after its happened...

Pakistanians are in many ways similar to Israel, yet they chooose to ignore the reality, the absence of the friendship means Indian Union

Your old president was good freind of Israel - a realistic person - and had alot of goodwill amongst Jews;
he was the Jewish kid born into a pakistanian family - he temrpaments and characteristics are almost charismatic like Dayan and bold commander like Sharon; under no ilklusion he was your presiden so he had your interest at the forefron but he didnt go around pretending to be the Chairman president of the Palestinean authority like Erdogan does...

I am quite favourable to your current Prime Minister - hes a Moslem (Potetnially a lost tribe) yet the torrent of anti-semitism hes had to put up ; dont get me wrong - hes not Moses but he sure seems to be Inspired by Moses...

The anti-semites ruined his marriage and ruined a large part of his life even despite his material success, he certainly has the chutzpah and stubborness of an Israelite....

Its very relatable, in fact Pakistanians im sure have many more like him - but we only see the backward lot who are in league with the Indian Union RSS Nazi scum - these are the majority whom we come in contct with in europe and quite frankly project your culture you shouldn't be surpirsed that there is such a divide...

It seems some of the Isrsael and Jews here on this forum are being too kind to be honest of you take the above into perspective - mostof them seem to be conscripts who view the world from their sights on their Galil; rather than big picture..

Its unbelievable that Benjy will even sit with that freak show RSS Nazi scum and invite over Gandhis flip-flop* (*also an alcoholic drink) from Delhi and take him for a tour of Yad Vashem...

Whats from Benjy next a signed poster of Hitler himself at Yad Vashem ???

I believe Iran should become a smaller Persian republic not empire; and let go of the other nations they have swallowed up into their empire like Azeris, Kurds, Balochis, Khuzestan Arabs, etc, - plus the lebanese and syrians they have swallowed over.

- probably not going to mirror their crooked desire to wipe them off the map as they want to do to Jews, but they do need to be cut down to size

looking to the furture Paksitan should liase with Israel, and

Espeiciall y since the phonecians palestineans have proven to be simpy another front for EU Intergrationism and expansionism..

Returning to the topic miore specifically of this thread - Its not a good idea to target embassies or ambassadors; its simply wrong...

Again soleimani;s troublemaking wont be missed but the symbolism of the US took him out is now on everyones mind...

Israel would have had him go in his sleep or mysteuiorus circumstances, and let the rest of the workd figure out whether it was natural or not...

Iran does have a relationship with US due to the afgan and Iraq issues - Trump clearly exposed it especially during obama presidency - who was equally uselless to Israel, Saudis and Pakistan for that matter...

They both have double crossed Israel many times ; and israel has a dynamic outlook to its relations in the world - Israel has good relations with most of pakistans tradition allies - issupect there are proper reations simple kept secret....i ts impossibleikfor either to live in the ME neighbourhood without working toghetr since thereuis alot of mirroing of smilar dynamics going on...

Its time to open at the very least a liason office/ pilgrim liason office - you are welcome to open one in Jerusalem - well give you one with a good view- and a quota of pilgrims who can come with verified documents - similarly inspired by your Kartapure initiative.

an embassy in the current times would be hard; its clearly understandable; nd you probably wouldnt be be able to defend ours in your country given that the topic of this thread is US embassy safety....and the sight of israeli securty wuold send your pol;uation mad...and make it an siiting duck iranian target.

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It seems you are over thinking to intervene humanitarianilt aspect of Sistan-Balochistan - if you dont move now and turn the tables it will turn on you - you will have more Mr Yadav wannabe James bonds

- we very well remember how the wily egyptian Sadat almost tricked us; despite some senior military guys warning and picking up on this...

hopefully the world goes towards peace and Iranians figure a better way to resovle this issue with the USA,

Israel has made so many advances - we would be the last nation to tolerate an iranian threat like soleimani posed but also the last ones to want an all out armageddon..

Its really important that Paksitanian dont allow the Iranians to soke another fire at US embassies like they have previously done...

the iranian poster on here can clarify whether he consifers like his supreme leader is US embasy a military installation or diplomatic one

what did the supreme mullah mean by military ?

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir G, Pakistan sacrificed heavily during Afghan conflict, being aligned with USA. You youself settled in USA, do you know how many civil and military sons of soil we sacrificed? Pakistan paid the price with blood, even USA after the conflict, left us and you could see both USA & India now have their proxies in Pakistan. For our SERVICES to USA , they include us in FATF & 'Religious List'. We temporarily surviving being black listed only because of China, Turkey & Malaysia. USA turned every stone to destabilise Pakistan.
What else, we could expect from Arabs, who even could not safeguard themselves against any aggression? They are happily contributing billions of dollars toward USA/Indian programmes while for Pakistan just a 'few dollars more' to a beggar.
Even on Kashmir issue they are sided with India and honouring Modi with their highest awards. Recently, how they applied arm twisting to Pakistan on the KUALALUMPUR
issue.
What are our interest in Yemen? We are not a superpower with overseas interests, we have only interest in our regional areas to be stable.
We should improve our economy and defence on our own and reduce dependence on others. Our first priority to be economically stable, detach ourselves with emotional issues and to be realistic.

Hi,

Pakistan sacrificed because Pakistanis fckd up---. Took you guys over 10 years to acknowledge who the enemy was---.

If you cannot understand what pakistan's interests were in Yemen by now---it is not worth talking to you---

 

[StormBreaker]

Hi,

Pakistan sacrificed because Pakistanis fckd up---. Took you guys over 10 years to acknowledge who the enemy was---.

If you cannot understand what pakistan's interests were in Yemen by now---it is not worth talking to you---

Interests in yemen could be a possible naval and Air force base or even military base ?
Coz that would checkmate indian presence in oman !!!

Am i right ?

 

[MastanKhan]

Interests in yemen could be a possible naval and Air force base or even military base ?
Coz that would checkmate indian presence in oman !!!

Am i right ?

Hi,

That was so obvious---wasn't it. East India Company Lesson Of Annexation 101---. Air and a naval base to assail the enemy from a totally different direction---.

These dumb kids don't know that Pak army had planned to take over a gulf states in the 50's. The british ambassador hinted to someone that the brits had found out about this plan and pak military should 'go easy'---.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I heard Iran called Pakistan.....

 

[MastanKhan]

It's free for all now. No more rules , everything goes, the new world order is up for grabs by any means.

Yeah---then why did Pakistanis fckd up in Yemen---when the whole of the GCC was put on a platter and was being handed over to pakistan---?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Yeah---then why did Pakistanis fckd up in Yemen---when the whole of the GCC was put on a platter and was being handed over to pakistan---?

Because we were at war in our own home. Why would you want to spread us even thinner.

 

[Crusher]

......................
These dumb kids don't know that Pak army had planned to take over a gulf states in the 50's. The british ambassador hinted to someone that the brits had found out about this plan and pak military should 'go easy'---.

Was it "Oman" due to Gawadar issue?

 

[khail007]

Hi,

Pakistan sacrificed because Pakistanis fckd up---. Took you guys over 10 years to acknowledge who the enemy was---.

If you cannot understand what pakistan's interests were in Yemen by now---it is not worth talking to you---

Sir G,
For Pakistan, there is nothing in the Yemen but only blood and roses.
For one enjoying life abroad and to become a keyboard intellectual/warrior is easy - but very very hard to shoulder the funeral of a son.
So, you stick to your narrative and let me with mine. I also feel that it is not worth talking to one who simply consider the sons of the soil just as canon fodder.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir G,
So, you stick to your narrative and let me with mine. I also feel that it is not worth talking to one who simply consider the sons of the soil just as canon fodder.

Hi,

See---there is a reason why I call pakistanis a nation of illiterates---. If you had picked up a book of islamic history and read it---it is full of sons of soil going elsewhere to lay down their lives for conquest and greater good---.

Pick up a book of christian nations history---no different---.

But alas---enjoy your ingnorant life---.

 

[StormBreaker]

Hi,

See---there is a reason why I call pakistanis a nation of illiterates---. If you had picked up a book of islamic history and read it---it is full of sons of soil going elsewhere to lay down their lives for conquest and greater good---.

Pick up a book of christian nations history---no different---.

But alas---enjoy your ingnorant life---.

I would like to side with you on this.

Military is a very different and unusual organization throught history of human kind.

Lives of a man who are part of it are sworn to serve THE CAUSE. So this makes their lives less important than the cause.

I know what you are trying to say bro @khail007 , but come to reality. Zarb-e-azb, Op-Afg, Soviet war, 1971,65,48 or even go back to history of mankind or islam. In all of these, man are used as merely weapon themselves, sacrificed as if they are nothing just to achieve a strategic goal.

Our Army men are precious and so are police (even though police is mix of shit and good) because they all are working in a HIGH RISK organization in which life is in question all the time.
But it is their choice that they chose to join, knowing the consequences during times of need.

Don't get emotional while thinking.

What is important is that, those men, who sacrifice, get honored and their families should be compensated at best.

Thanks

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir G,
For Pakistan, there is nothing in the Yemen but only blood and roses.
For one enjoying life abroad and to become a keyboard intellectual/warrior is easy - but very very hard to shoulder the funeral of a son.
So, you stick to your narrative and let me with mine. I also feel that it is not worth talking to one who simply consider the sons of the soil just as canon fodder.

Hi,

You say "nothing"---meaning 150 thousand troops sitting on the flank of India are nothing---. Air bases in Oman with heavy deep strike aircraft like the SU34 are nothing---having a flotilla of type 054 frigates and multiple submarines sitting across from Mumbai is nothing---.

Ain't you a brilliant planner---my my my---look at your sophisticated level of thinking---.