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US cannot attain objectives in Afghanistan, without change of behaviour by Pakistan: Gen Dunford

North Korea has not been attacked so far..not because of nukes.. but because they can kill tens of thousands of American troops in the area.. the Japanese and South Koreans are almost dispensable...

Same lesson for Pakistan.. American troops in Afghanistan AND Israel...

Add India while at that.
 
Hi,

Senator McCain might not live long.
Pak army has very strong lobby inside Pentagon. And these senator knows very well. Remember these elected govt officials somewhere in past life served military and decorated soldiers.

Misleading title;

No where does the general says what the title is quoting.
Agreed, nowhere Gen gave any all out war or any other type of aggressive posture to avoid failures in Afghanistan. Gen only seems frustrated due to long war without any outcome. And govt want the answer.

Hi,

Senator McCain might not live long.
There always a replacement. Pak-US has year long exchange of govt to military staff and has close debates.
 
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Pak army has very strong lobby inside Pentagon. And these senator knows very well. Remember these elected govt officials somewhere in past life serve military and decorated soldiers.


Agreed, nowhere Gen gave any all out war or any other type of aggressive posture to avoid failures in Afghanistan. Gen only seems frustrated due to long war without any outcome. And govt want the answer.


There always a replacement. Pak-US has year long exchange of govt to military staff and has close debates.
I am pretty sure it's a 2 way street!!! Pentagon boys also have something to learn from the Pindi boys!!!! For they both need to survive in the "men's" world!!!

On a serious note, heard from the Turkish officers attending the Pak war college, even at the height of the Pressler sanctions the US general ranking officers were giving talks at the Pak institutes and offering Q&A sessions...
 
Do they want to fight a war with us?Or do they want us to fight their war?
They cannot win Afghanistan , Period.
 
Maybe Pakistan should test it's ICBM and shut him up? Or maybe!! The U.S. was just bluffing b/c they wanted to know for sure whether Pakistan has or doesn't have an ICBM?????
 
I am pretty sure it's a 2 way street!!! Pentagon boys also have something to learn from the Pindi boys!!!! For they both need to survive in the "men's" world!!!

On a serious note, heard from the Turkish officers attending the Pak war college, even at the height of the Pressler sanctions the US general ranking officers were giving talks at the Pak institutes and offering Q&A sessions...
Yes, meet six young gentlemen from TA on same flight departing to Turkey.
 
It's nothing just domestic consumption statements With 12000 troops what he will do ? and he giving statements againest a country from where his supply lines runs from bullet to gas to diapers for his marines .A looser talks like that not a General .
 
well come

here are some useful option which of one they like we will do.

1.we cant provide coffins to USA soldiers it should be from pentagon budget so come along with coffins.

OR

2.If you dont want the bodies back only heads, we have also such kind of forces.
 
This thread title is beyond inaccurate and the general said no such thing. He repeated what's been said in the past a 100 times. Thread title changed.
 
Maybe Pakistan should test it's ICBM and shut him up? Or maybe!! The U.S. was just bluffing b/c they wanted to know for sure whether Pakistan has or doesn't have an ICBM?????

A anther North Korea in the making, this time the whole population have the same mentality as Kim j.
 
Not sure why this article by esteemed Munir Akram is not discussed. Very relevant to the topic.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1361115/the-nuclear-dimension


The nuclear dimension


Once Pakistan can demonstrate the complete credibility of its nuclear deterrence posture, its offers to negotiate peace and security in South Asia and to resolve the Kashmir dispute may evoke a more positive response from both India and the US. Pakistan will then also be able to pursue its socioeconomic objectives free from the threats of external coercion, intervention and aggression.


Munir is no mug. He is known to be close to the establishment. Whatever he is saying in diplomatic language, is what the likes of me have been saying for years. ICBMs and Thermo nuclear warheads are absolute must. Key word is "demonstrate" used by Munir. We need to kill the will to fight and wage war against Pakistan, among our enemies.
 
Not sure why this article by esteemed Munir Akram is not discussed. Very relevant to the topic.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1361115/the-nuclear-dimension


The nuclear dimension


Once Pakistan can demonstrate the complete credibility of its nuclear deterrence posture, its offers to negotiate peace and security in South Asia and to resolve the Kashmir dispute may evoke a more positive response from both India and the US. Pakistan will then also be able to pursue its socioeconomic objectives free from the threats of external coercion, intervention and aggression.


Munir is no mug. He is known to be close to the establishment. Whatever he is saying in diplomatic language, is what the likes of me have been saying for years. ICBMs and Thermo nuclear warheads are absolute must. Key word is "demonstrate" used by Munir. We need to kill the will to fight and wage war against Pakistan, among our enemies.
Sheikh Imran Hosein has also posted Munir Akram's article on his website.

Does Pakistan have ICBM'S and if not do they not take decades to produce?
 
Not sure why this article by esteemed Munir Akram is not discussed. Very relevant to the topic.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1361115/the-nuclear-dimension


The nuclear dimension


Once Pakistan can demonstrate the complete credibility of its nuclear deterrence posture, its offers to negotiate peace and security in South Asia and to resolve the Kashmir dispute may evoke a more positive response from both India and the US. Pakistan will then also be able to pursue its socioeconomic objectives free from the threats of external coercion, intervention and aggression.


Munir is no mug. He is known to be close to the establishment. Whatever he is saying in diplomatic language, is what the likes of me have been saying for years. ICBMs and Thermo nuclear warheads are absolute must. Key word is "demonstrate" used by Munir. We need to kill the will to fight and wage war against Pakistan, among our enemies.
Can you believe some of the comments by Pakistanis in that Dawn article? They might has well hand over Pakistan nukes to the Zionist controlled USA.
 

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