US building military base in Afghanistan near Iran border

[Oldman1]

You carry on polishing their balls they done you well haven't they?!

Learn to spell properly before debating, otherwise grow up kid.



There were many more casualities on the israeli side than they made out. They always try to keep it low but in reality it's high.



Iranian army has aircraft which the Iraqis and Afghanis lacked. They lacked manpower let alone equipment pal.

Go for it, what you waiting for eh? HAHA!

You know the Iranians threaten to sink an American aircraft from going into its waters. Why didn't they press that? What are they waiting for? Yet we sent another aircraft carrier into its waters. The PERSIAN GULF. Thats insulting.

 

[Shahin Vatani]

You know the Iranians threaten to sink an American aircraft from going into its waters. Why didn't they press that? What are they waiting for? Yet we sent another aircraft carrier into its waters. The PERSIAN GULF. Thats insulting.

The whole Persian Gulf doesn't belong to Iran. Come into our waters and we will do to you what we done to your British friends a few years ago. Or if you are too chicken to come yourselves you can send some more drones. We will be glad to take them off your hands.

 

[Oldman1]

The whole Persian Gulf doesn't belong to Iran. Come into our waters and we will do to you what we done to your British friends a few years ago. Or if you are too chicken to come yourselves you can send some more drones. We will be glad to take them off your hands.

Oh yeah a small boat. You didn't do crap against American carriers and destroyers that cross the waters and you claim its all yours. Glad to hear you don't claim it all since you are more pragmatic.

 

[Shahin Vatani]

Oh yeah a small boat. You didn't do crap against American carriers and destroyers that cross the waters and you claim its all yours. Glad to hear you don't claim it all since you are more pragmatic.

No Iranian claims whole Persian gulf is Iranian water. Seriously at least do some research before making idiotic claims.

 

[Oldman1]

No Iranian claims whole Persian gulf is Iranian water. Seriously at least do some research before making idiotic claims.

Iranian armed forces chief: The Gulf is

A top Iranian military officer on Saturday denounced what he called an “Arab dictatorial front” and claimed that the “Persian Gulf has belonged to Iran forever,” media reports said.

“The Arab dictatorial regimes in the Persian Gulf are unable to contain the popular uprisings,” Major General Hassan Firouzabadi, the chief of staff of Iran’s armed forces, was widely quoted as saying by Iranian media on Saturday.

“Instead of trying and failing to open an unworkable front against Iran, these dictators should relinquish power, end their savage crimes and let the people determine their own future,” General Firouzabadi said.

He also denounced “plots” by the Gulf Arab monarchies to “carve out an identity for themselves by rejecting the identity of others,” referring to Iran.

“The Persian Gulf has always, is and shall always belong to Iran,” he said.

General Firouzabadi, speaking on the annual “National Day of the Persian Gulf,” also condemned the regional Arab monarchies for refusing to call the waterway between Iran and its Arab neighbors by its “historical name.”

“With the arrival of the British and later the Americans in the region, plots were hatched to try and change the name with fake identities... to distort the history and identity of the Persian Gulf,” General Firouzabadi said.

According to the Iranian military leader, world powers have, by hiding their “evil intentions,” managed to deceive Gulf States and encouraged them to purchase modern, expensive military equipment such as US-made warships.

“It is evident that such attempts are aimed at sowing discord and creating tension in regional Muslim states and perhaps to promote the Iranophobia scenario so as to make huge economic profits,” General Firouzabadi said, according to Iran’s English-language Press TV.

Relations between Iran and its Gulf Arab neighbors have deteriorated sharply, with the latter accusing Tehran of seeking to destabilize Arab regimes by promoting popular unrest that has erupted in many Arab countries.

Bahrain’s monarch declared martial law in March 2011, and invited about 1,500 Saudi-led troops from the Gulf to help contain an uprising that Sunni leaders around the Middle East believe could open the way for greater influence by Iran in Bahrain, where Shiites hold a demographic majority.

Shiite-dominant Iran has strongly criticized Saudi Arabia’s military intervention in Bahrain aimed to help crack down on the Shiite-led revolt.

Iran says it gives “moral support” to Bahrainis but is not involved in the protests there.

Bahrain and Kuwait have in turn expelled Iranian diplomats, accusing them of espionage.

On Monday, the state-owned Bahrain News Agency reported that Hujatullah Rahmani, the second secretary at the Iranian Embassy in Manama, was declared a persona non grata and ordered out of Bahrain within 72 hours.

Iran has in the past claimed Bahrain as part of its territory, and it controls three islands in the southern Gulf that are also claimed by the United Arab Emirates.

Last week, Bahrain’s foreign minister said the Saudi-led force would stay indefinitely to counter perceived threats from Iran.

 

[Shahin Vatani]

Iranian armed forces chief: The Gulf is

A top Iranian military officer on Saturday denounced what he called an “Arab dictatorial front” and claimed that the “Persian Gulf has belonged to Iran forever,” media reports said.

He is saying that it should belong to Iran, but currently it doesn't. Iran's current territorial waters are defined. Please give me proof that American ships have crossed into Iranian territory without Iranian reaction.

 

[Oldman1]

He is saying that it should belong to Iran, but currently it doesn't. Iran's current territorial waters are defined. Please give me proof that American ships have crossed into Iranian territory without Iranian reaction.

It should? I be disturbed by that mentality. An Iranian who claims all of the Perisan Gulf as theirs. I mean you did ask what Iranian would claim it. Well there you go. So in his view we are crossing through their territory.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/58228.pdf

The 1993 la
w also references the Decree
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Law No. 2/250
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67 dated 31 Tir 1352 (July 22,
1973) of the Council of Ministers which established straight baselines.
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Summary of the 1993 Iran Legislation
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Most of the straight baseline segments are not drawn in accordance w
ith the relevant
principles of the international law of the sea.
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The 1993 Act makes a claim to internal water status of the water "between islands" which
lacks any basis in international law and is even more expansive than earlier Iranian claims.
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It
fails to limit the power to suspend the right of innocent passage as required by
international law.
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Warships and certain other ships are, contrary to international law, required to receive
prior approval to engage in innocent passage.
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The 1993 Act pr
ovides for supplementary laws to limit further the right of innocent
passage in ways not permitted by the law of the sea.
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It claims excessive criminal and civil jurisdiction within Iran's maritime zones.
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The 1993 Act prohibits military activities wit
hin the entire EEZ, which is consistent with the
freedoms of navigation and overflight enjoyed by all States in the EEZ.
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The other delimitation provisions are consistent with the law of the sea.

 

[Shahin Vatani]

It should? I be disturbed by that mentality. An Iranian who claims all of the Perisan Gulf as theirs. I mean you did ask what Iranian would claim it. Well there you go. So in his view we are crossing through their territory.

As I already said, he states that these lands historically have been Iran and should come under Iran again. However obviously they aren't currently under Iranian jurisdiction. Anyway this conversation is going around in circles. Either prove that US ships have entered into Iranian territory and Iran has been too cowardly to reiterate, or lets call it a day.

 

[Oldman1]

As I already said, he states that these lands historically have been Iran and should come under Iran again. However obviously they aren't currently under Iranian jurisdiction. Anyway this conversation is going around in circles. Either prove that US ships have entered into Iranian territory and Iran has been too cowardly to reiterate, or lets call it a day.

Since it should have been their but its not, they can't protect their historical territory as you said. We are intruding your historical territory.

 

[Shahin Vatani]

Since it should have been their but its not, they can't protect their historical territory as you said. We are intruding your historical territory.

You are also intruding on British historical territory by simply being in the United States.

 

[Juice]

You are also intruding on British historical territory by simply being in the United States.

We perpetuate the culture....because even now it expands. US, Britain, Canada, Anzac....all one block....albeit democratic (each section is self-governing)....we are a team.

Yes the USA is the hottest in the world, it is the strongest in the world, it is simply the best. Is it hell!

If you aint been to the ME and seen the *bright* sun you dont know what your talking about kid. It's bloody 20+ at night time sleeping is difficult there.

The only record the US has is the number of hurricanes and natural disasters - sign from God as it thinks it is the super power of the world, God gives it natural disasters and says "beat that" yet it cant because it's "natural". LMAO.



1 American worth 100?

It is your Americans that when they come home they commit suicide - (if you aint got the mental capacity, physical size is useless) enough said.

Yep...almost "average" you know what that means or need pics?

 

[Shahin Vatani]

We perpetuate the culture....because even now it expands. US, Britain, Canada, Anzac....all one block....albeit democratic (each section is self-governing)....we are a team.

Yep...almost "average" you know what that means or need pics?

Don't really care mate.

 

[Juice]

Then why did you bring it up? We have a saying in English...."actions speak louder than words".

 

[Shahin Vatani]

Then why did you bring it up? We have a saying in English...."actions speak louder than words".

I brought it up to counter Oldman1's absurd claims that Iran should retaliate against US presence in our historic lands. If you read the whole thread you would have understood.

 

[TheThreePashas]

There were many more casualities on the israeli side than they made out. They always try to keep it low but in reality it's high.

Not that I don't believe you, but for my own curiosity. Could you point me to a source that says this?