US B-52 bombers fly near Chinese made islands in South China Sea

[ChineseTiger1986]

Deng begged for US spy bird and spy satelites support. Deng admitted that PLA would be blind without US spy bird and satelite.

And show that CN has the guts to sink JP warship since JP warship just arrived VN and promise a stronger present. Dont just trash talk here

If Japan has stepped on China's red line, then China will not only sink the Japanese warships, but also to bring the war onto the Japanese soil.

I dare you to not believe it.

 

[Viva_Viet]

If Japan has stepped on China's red line, then China will not only sink the Japanese warships, but also to bring the war on the Japanese soil.

I dare you to not believe it.

Okay, thats why I told you that US-VN will sit and watch the fight since SCS( east VN sea) is the Red line for both.

Im sure JP troops will fight to the last guy, but will CN troops have the same guts?? No, I dont think so...no body think so, since PLA troops only good at surrender in battle .

Okay, lets prepare for the unavoidable naval war btween CN-JP for the Red line. Hope CN troops wont surrender too fast

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Okay, thats why I told you that US-VN will sit and watch the fight since SCS( east VN sea) is the Red line for both.

Im sure JP troops will fight to the last guy, but will CN troops have the same guts?? No, I dont think so...no body think so, since PLA troops only good at surrender in battle .

Okay, lets prepare for the unavoidable naval war btween CN-JP for the Red line. Hope CN troops wont surrender too fast

I remember you guys always whined how PLA has killed over 100K civilians in Vietnam.

In order to defend the national sovereignty, PLA will also turn into some cold blooded killing machine just like any other armies around the world.

So you are asking the PLA in its killing machine mode just like it has done in Vietnam? Then go ahead and provoke the giant beast, and see what will happen.

 

[Godman]

If the US doesn't intervene, then China won't lose a significant number of aircrafts and warships.

You have to know that Japan doesn't have the real offensive weapons. Their anti-ship missiles are still limited at 150 km max.

China's second artillery will first wipe out most airports and docks in Japan, and most of their air force and navy will just sit on duck.

China don't even need to use its Navy and Air Force. China's second artillery force will make sure Japan is sent straight to hell within hours.

There is no country on this planet that can survive an all out strike by the PLA second artillery force.

LOL Anti-Ballistic warfare is one of Japans major skills
And there are some new systems coming up
U.S. Approves $1.5 Billion Ballistic Missile Defense Deal With Japan | The Diplomat

And Japan also already has the PAC-3 on land which can take down anything that escapes ABMs in the navy

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LOL Anti-Ballistic warfare is one of Japans major skills
And there are some new systems coming up
U.S. Approves $1.5 Billion Ballistic Missile Defense Deal With Japan | The Diplomat

And Japan also already has the PAC-3 on land which can take down anything that escapes ABMs in the navy

Even the US isn't really certain how to intercept the DF-21D and DF-26, and forget about Japan.

China's multi-dimensional saturation attack from the land/air/sea will make sure that Japan will die in a really ugly way.

For today's Japan, to provoke China is absolutely suicide, since they can't even orchestrate some significant damage to China, yet they are not even sure whether the US would shed any blood for them during the critical moment.

 

[anon45]

Those bombers had some serious backup

 

[Red Wolf]

Too little too late.

US is entrenched in Middle East and if Asian pivot is all about a B-52 flyby its not going to be enough.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Even the US isn't really certain how to intercept the DF-21D and DF-26, and forget about Japan.

China's multi-dimensional saturation attack from the land/air/sea will make sure that Japan will die in a really ugly way.

For today's Japan, to provoke China is absolutely suicide, since they can't even orchestrate some significant damage to China, yet they are not even sure whether the US would shed any blood for them during the critical moment.

JP come and protect international water( and aso protect its shipping lane) in SCS( east VN sea). So, all out attack to JP soil will get the World sanction. Just look at US sanction on Russia.

Fighting in SCS (east VN sea) will be too hard for PLAN cos it has No real experience and to far for mainland supply while JP can get supply from VN-PH.

Only short sighted oversea Cnese like you think Mr.Xi will risk the war against JP navy there now.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Too little too late.

US is entrenched in Middle East and if Asian pivot is all about a B-52 flyby its not going to be enough.

The US wants to completely leave the Middle East in order to fulfill her Asia-Pacific pivot, but it is impossible to leave the Middle East in a completely vacuum state.

 

[Red Wolf]

The US wants to completely leave the Middle East in order to fulfill her Asia-Pacific pivot, but it is impossible to leave the Middle East in a completely vacuum state.

US can leave Middle East but it will become ISIS backyard. That's way more frightening than China's expansion in South China sea.

 

[Viva_Viet]

US can leave Middle East but it will become ISIS backyard. That's way more frightening than China's expansion in South China sea.

In WW2, US didnt give a damn wheb Nazi smashed Europe to pieces. US only start the war when JP attack Pearl habour.

So, you should know where is more important for US, right ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

US can leave Middle East but it will become ISIS backyard. That's way more frightening than China's expansion in South China sea.

Well, Russia has recently launched a war campaign against ISIS, but it still got condemned by the US.

It is true that Russia is also taking this opportunity to eliminate the threat against Assad's regime, but they are also bombing ISIS which is also a major threat to Assad's regime. They don't discriminate the ISIS and the western backed rebels.

The US is also afraid of losing its Petro-Dollar hegemony in the Middle East, and it considers Russia's recent action a provocation to its Petro-Dollar hegemony under the banner of anti-terrorism.

In WW2, US didnt give a damn wheb Nazi smashed Europe to pieces. US only start the war when JP attack Pearl habour.

So, you should know where is more important for US, right ?

Because Hitler had never proactively declared the war against the US, it was the idiotic Imperial Japan.

 

[Economic superpower]

LOL Anti-Ballistic warfare is one of Japans major skills
And there are some new systems coming up
U.S. Approves $1.5 Billion Ballistic Missile Defense Deal With Japan | The Diplomat

And Japan also already has the PAC-3 on land which can take down anything that escapes ABMs in the navy

You have no idea how powerful the Chinese missile arsenal is or the PLA for that matter.

China's second artillery force is China's most powerful branch in the PLA. China has the full range of ballistic and cruise missiles with MIRV and MaRV technology that can be launched from land, air, sea and subsea. Not only are they technologically advanced, China has them in very large numbers.

Chinese cyber and electronic warfare units will also be combined to help out the second artillery force.

China already has the technology for the air defences and ballistic missile defences and the PLA knows how to penetrate such defences. China has been developing the HQ-29 (PAC-3 equivalent), HQ-26 (SM-3 equivalent) for the Type 055 128-VLS cruiser, HQ-19 (THAAD equivalent) and close to deploying them.

Chinese Air Force will also launch cruise missiles (KD-20 ALCM 2,500km) from fighter bombers and strategic bombers. Chinese ships will launch land attack cruise missiles and submarines will launch cruise and ballistic missiles.

The military advantage will only grow towards China as China's military budget is already close to $300 billion and growing very fast and China's industrial might is unmatched by anyone in the world.

The ability of China to hurt Japan is considerably more than vice versa.

 

[oproh]

So this is america's pivot to asia, not impressive.

If China goes to war with Japan most of the chinese navy and air force will be under sea.
Japanese navy will go down with the Chinese navy

 

[Red Wolf]

Well, Russia has recently launched a war campaign against ISIS, but it still got condemned by the US.

It is true that Russia is also taking this opportunity to eliminate the threat against Assad's regime, but they are also bombing ISIS which is also a major threat to Assad's regime. They don't discriminate the ISIS and the western backed rebels.

The US is also afraid of losing its Petro-Dollar hegemony in the Middle East, and it considers Russia's recent action a provocation to its Petro-Dollar hegemony under the banner of anti-terrorism.



Because Hitler had never proactively declared the war against the US, it was the idiotic Imperial Japan.

Air campaigns against ISIS have been useless. There is no solution other than boots on the ground and Obama doesn't want that as part of his legacy. Iraq as it exists on the map is gone and ISIS is the new reality which is more frightening than China's expansion in the South China sea.