US asks India to modify nuclear liability regime

[pmukherjee]

What you are saying is correct, but how much energy is wasted by irresponsible people and EB staffs, The EB guys don't remember to switch off the Street Lights by morning,
Most of the Corporate sectors use AC unnecessarily.
By consuming more energy we are not doing any good to the environment, but destroying it.
Use resources responsibily should the the moto for every one in this planet

Transmission losses. Electricity losses during transmission and distribution are an incredible 35% - 40%. This issue has to be tackled on a war footing.

 

[crimemaster_gogo]

I agree with you, but you have to accept the fact the Radio active waste are the longest decaying material in the planet and dumping them in sea and ocean results in mutaion of sea life, In the Tsunami in 2001, the tidel waves brought most of the nuclear waste we have dumped in to the Bay of Bengal to the Southern shores, A study reveal that after the Tsunami, that babies born in the Kalpakam costal areas have malformed growth and fused limbs,
We have to work for the future generation, not to make a hell of a place of the next generation.

really enjoyed reading your post.

 

[WHITESMOKE]

Transmission losses. Electricity losses during transmission and distribution are an incredible 35% - 40%. This issue has to be tackled on a war footing.

35-40%?? Are you sure? I seriously doubt it.... I know its wiki figure, but i guess its from 2004-2005. Alot has been improved since that time. I think it should be roughly about 20% on average now.

 

[Moorkh]

I agree with you, but you have to accept the fact the Radio active waste are the longest decaying material in the planet and dumping them in sea and ocean results in mutaion of sea life, In the Tsunami in 2001, the tidel waves brought most of the nuclear waste we have dumped in to the Bay of Bengal to the Southern shores, A study reveal that after the Tsunami, that babies born in the Kalpakam costal areas have malformed growth and fused limbs,
We have to work for the future generation, not to make a hell of a place of the next generation.

dumping nuclear waste in sea? u r misinformed dude. nuclear waste is buried and the amount produced is far far less than the ash coal powered plants produce. in US there was a plan to put all their wastes in just one facility which would be able to hold it for millions of years.

 

[DMLA]

It is absolutely essential that India completes the three stages of its nuclear program in order to have an exponential growth in nuclear power generation using thorium. We should not loose sight of the long term benefits. With vast amounts of thorium, India has, we will have energy security which is of vital importance to any nation parallel to food and water security. Moreover, thorium is not very radioactive compared to uranium. The reactors are safer as they will not be pressurized and generate very little waste and secondary products. WE NEED THIS! Please don't buy into any false propaganda which this thread seems to be rife with!

 

[ashokdeiva]

dumping nuclear waste in sea? u r misinformed dude. nuclear waste is buried and the amount produced is far far less than the ash coal powered plants produce. in US there was a plan to put all their wastes in just one facility which would be able to hold it for millions of years.

radio active waste is hazardous, in any means you save it its still hazardous. Rather creating such waste, we have to think about renewable sources. and also we sould reduce our unwanted usage of power.
For example, a friend of mine, whom i don't want to name uses AC 24/7 at 16 degree. Do we need to be so much sophesticated. The first thing that we have to do is develop some social responsibility of not wasting energy.
There is a fine line between being confortable and being sophesticated, we really are wasting resources with out any regret.
"We might have the money to buy what ever we want, but there is no price of resources".

 

[Dash]

It is absolutely essential that India completes the three stages of its nuclear program in order to have an exponential growth in nuclear power generation using thorium. We should not loose sight of the long term benefits. With vast amounts of thorium, India has, we will have energy security which is of vital importance to any nation parallel to food and water security. Moreover, thorium is not very radioactive compared to uranium. The reactors are safer as they will not be pressurized and generate very little waste and secondary products. WE NEED THIS! Please don't buy into any false propaganda which this thread seems to be rife with!

Where are you, can we see you often here?

 

[pmukherjee]

35-40%?? Are you sure? I seriously doubt it.... I know its wiki figure, but i guess its from 2004-2005. Alot has been improved since that time. I think it should be roughly about 20% on average now.

India’s Electricity Transmission and Distribution Losses
July 16, 2008

According to World Resources Institute (WRI), India’s electricity grid has the highest transmission and distribution losses in the world – a whopping 27%. Numbers published by various Indian government agencies put that number at 30%, 40% and greater than 40%. This is attributed to technical losses (grid’s inefficiencies) and theft.
Theft, in Delhi, accounts for 42% losses as per this BBC article. For those who don’t understand how power theft actually happens, the photograph in this The Hindu article is instructive. (Incredible. Never ceases to amaze me.)
By contrast, China apparently loses just 3% of it’s electricity to theft as part of 8% total power transmission losses. OECD countries’ transmission and distribution losses are just 7%.........................
India’s Electricity Transmission and Distribution Losses « Cleantech India
BBC NEWS | Business | India struggles with power theft
The Hindu Business Line : Power theft short-circuiting growth

Yes, we do not have any current figures for transmission losses or losses due to theft, in the public domain. The reason for that I suspect is that, we do not know exactly how much that loss is now. Like you, I too am an optimist and hope that things have improved, especially with the privatisation of electricity distribution here in Delhi and other places. But, this is a menace we have to deal with an iron hand.

 

[Bang Galore]

I agree with you, but you have to accept the fact the Radio active waste are the longest decaying material in the planet and dumping them in sea and ocean results in mutaion of sea life, In the Tsunami in 2001, the tidel waves brought most of the nuclear waste we have dumped in to the Bay of Bengal to the Southern shores, A study reveal that after the Tsunami, that babies born in the Kalpakam costal areas have malformed growth and fused limbs,
We have to work for the future generation, not to make a hell of a place of the next generation.

Kindly don't post rubbish. Nuclear waste is not as much as a problem as made out by "interested"people. The amount of nuclear waste produced by all the reactors in India would be very negligible; roughly the size of an Olympic size swimming pool. Al the rubbish of radioactive waste dumped in the sea & coming with the tsunami is just gibberish. Even if nuclear waste was directly dumped into the sea, the level of radiation would have been dispersed in such a large body of water to be almost negligible. Stop cooking up stories If you really want to reduce the environmental footprint by being more judicious with the use of power, may I suggest you turn off your computer which is needlessly consuming power since you have nothing sensible to say. You can be anti-nuclear if you want but there is absolutely no need to come up with ridiculous arguments that waste everyone else's time

 

[Moorkh]

radio active waste is hazardous, in any means you save it its still hazardous. Rather creating such waste, we have to think about renewable sources. and also we sould reduce our unwanted usage of power.
For example, a friend of mine, whom i don't want to name uses AC 24/7 at 16 degree. Do we need to be so much sophesticated. The first thing that we have to do is develop some social responsibility of not wasting energy.
There is a fine line between being confortable and being sophesticated, we really are wasting resources with out any regret.
"We might have the money to buy what ever we want, but there is no price of resources".

excessive use of electricity has nothing to do with the power plant producing it.

Also renewable sources of energy are slightly over hyped. they need a lot of resources to produce the same amount of electricity.

Would you say that the wind energy is the cleanest form of harvestable energy? the largest wind turbine in existence produces a little less than 8 MW. a single core in a nuclear reactor produces 1000MW with ease.
Also this 8MW wind turbine has a rotor diameter of 126m. you can imagine the effects on the area when such huge wind turbines are erected. then there is the point that two of these need a minimum distance between them for optimal operation. add the costs of maintenance and you end up far behind nuclear power.

A similar story is present for every other renewable source of energy too.

 

[ashokdeiva]

And for those who are agumenting the use of Nuclear energy, why is that Germany has planned to cease all its Nuclear Reactors in the near future that Simens Industries is stoping future research in Nuclear Reactor parts. Is that we are genious that we are going after Nuclear energy which we argue to be cleaner of is it the Germans who are poiners in Engineering are fools to abondon such a promissing technology.

 

[WHITESMOKE]

India’s Electricity Transmission and Distribution Losses
July 16, 2008

According to World Resources Institute (WRI), India’s electricity grid has the highest transmission and distribution losses in the world – a whopping 27%. Numbers published by various Indian government agencies put that number at 30%, 40% and greater than 40%. This is attributed to technical losses (grid’s inefficiencies) and theft.
Theft, in Delhi, accounts for 42% losses as per this BBC article. For those who don’t understand how power theft actually happens, the photograph in this The Hindu article is instructive. (Incredible. Never ceases to amaze me.)
By contrast, China apparently loses just 3% of it’s electricity to theft as part of 8% total power transmission losses. OECD countries’ transmission and distribution losses are just 7%.........................
India’s Electricity Transmission and Distribution Losses « Cleantech India
BBC NEWS | Business | India struggles with power theft
The Hindu Business Line : Power theft short-circuiting growth

Yes, we do not have any current figures for transmission losses or losses due to theft, in the public domain. The reason for that I suspect is that, we do not know exactly how much that loss is now. Like you, I too am an optimist and hope that things have improved, especially with the privatisation of electricity distribution here in Delhi and other places. But, this is a menace we have to deal with an iron hand.

Thanks.. .but its 3 years old news and last i heard was that government was trying to reduce loss.. and some steps were taken.. So i am sure loss is much low now as compared to those figures. Any saving in loss means additional power.

 

[mastaan]

Thanks.. .but its 3 years old news and last i heard was that government was trying to reduce loss.. and some steps were taken.. So i am sure loss is much low now as compared to those figures. Any saving in loss means additional power.

Transmission loss can not be addressed without re-doing the whole bloody grid infrastructure to make it more efficient... India is still investing most in new grid for new areas or along the trunk routes, whereas distrubution losses happen along the route and from theft within the load centers.... Plus, the bigger issue in India is also of Theft and that has not come down over the last so many years, because there have been limited interventions from government side on the smart metering solutions... So, the reported transmission/distribution loss numbers will remain between 25-30% obduratery and will not go down and the actuals will vary easily be between 32-37%...

And the 8% transmission loss of China reported here is also very misleading because China controls the reporting of data and losses less than 10% is not possible on the conventional standard switchgears and transformers based distribution infrastructure and will remain impossible till the country starts using smart grid etc in the transmission infrastructure and from my experience, I can vouch that 95% of the world is still years away from investing that heavily in smart grid technologies, using HVDC and full converters in them...

 

[MrIndianSikh]

nuclear energy is efficient but our nuclear reactors need to have several fail safe systems we don't want a Chernobyl or Fukushima to happen in India let alone another Bhopal. nuclear power is a good way to get power to those people in east India where people still do not even have electricity and live deplorably in 3rd world conditions. my view is to go green really villages should set up solar panels where every village member can get electricity in day and at night through fuel cells which store solar energy. they tried this in Punjab and the results were quite pleasing as regular electricity in Punjab can go out at any given time.

 

[DMLA]

Where are you, can we see you often here?

Busy with my work unfortunately. I just try and keep up with what goes on from time to time.