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US Approves Sale of Patriot Missiles to Turkey

In what aspects? Patriot isn't as good at missile defense but that's what the THAAD is for and yes I do think it does compare pretty well to the S-400. I suggest you go online and check for these answers yourself.
Well thaad is compared by s400 and s300 series with patriot .
I wonder why USA suggested a system inferior to what turkey was after if they really wanted turkey don't by s400
 
They did attack in November but all of them were jammed.
They have been stopped..my point exactly..

I think S-400 irrevocable now...
Nope, it was just a carrot dangled in front the USA..no more no less..

S-400 max altitude is 30 km, THAAD - 150 km (5 times more).
Bullshit..All the bean sellers say the same thing about their beans..PAC3 was a complete desaster in the hand of the US in Iraq and in Yemen now..THAAD is the same..
 
Turkey buys S400 against Fighter Jets and PAC3MSE against Ballistic Missiles and GEM-T against both Fighter Jets / Ballistic Missiles


 
S-400 max altitude is 30 km, THAAD - 150 km (5 times more).
are you sure ?
it seems 40N6E have a range of 400km and altitude of 185km and have a max speed of 12Mach and a max target velocity of 14 mach.
lower grade 48N6DM/48N6E3 have a range of 250km altitude of 60km max speed of 6mach and a max target velocity of 14mach
even lower grade 48N6E2 have a range of 200km altitude of 60km max speed of 6mach and a max target velocity of 8mach

MIM-104 have a flight altitude of 24km and range of 160km (PAC-3 MSE have range of 35km against ballistic missiles) and a max speed of 4.1mach

so can you tell me why it's not comparable to Thaad and how S-400 is not superior to PAC-3 ?
 
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What happened to the Turkey not getting F-35 by Trump? Its just written off for some reason?
You fool.Many important parts of F-35 is built in Turkey.
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You know how many Pac-3 can fit in one canister?
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That should answer the question for you a boat load of 12 per launcher which can engage up to 6 theater ballistic missiles with one 4 canister load out but of course isn't dedicated to ABM compared to the THAAD which outperforms the S-400 in ABM but to answer your question the S-400 can engage farther range Ballistic missiles such as MRBM and IRBM Ballistic missiles (range up to 3,500 km) while the Patriot can only defend against Tactical ballistic missiles.
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You're not getting F-35s unless I'm mistaken Trump signed a bill which said no F-35s for Turkey cause you were in bed with Russia, his thoughts not mine.


S400 can and never be good as a PAC3 missile, it can have greater range and altitude but the PAC3 missile have the abilities hit a missile kinetic.



Because of this PAC3 is the best cheap ABM system. S400 and all the others ABM capebalities are to be doubt.
 
are you sure ?
it seems 40N6E have a range of 400km and altitude of 185km and have a max speed of 12Mach and a max target velocity of 14 mach.
lower grade 48N6DM/48N6E3 have a range of 250km altitude of 60km max speed of 6mach and a max target velocity of 14mach
even lower grade 48N6E2 have a range of 200km altitude of 60km max speed of 6mach and a max target velocity of 8mach

MIM-104 have a flight altitude of 24km and range of 160km (PAC-3 MSE have range of 35km against ballistic missiles) and a max speed of 4.1mach

so can you tell me why it's not comparable to Thaad and how S-400 is not superior to PAC-3 ?
Sure, 30 km max altitude:

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We go for S-400. Period. US missed the train. Meanwhile our own systems will mature enough. S-400 or Patriot etc. is just for gap filling.
With this deal US shows it didnt miss the train, or got another one heading to the same destination.
 

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