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US Apologizes to Pakistan For Salala Attack

Next time, if you are arrogant here.....Don't be stupid, read english carefully.

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Dude, I was responding to PN who asserted that all of the mentioned news sources he accepts were of the same opinion, including BBC and NY times.. read my posts properly please..
 
Hahahaha, you cant even accept that you were wrong in mentioning at least BBC.. I never challenged you on others, ignorant fool!

So one has a changed headline while im correct about others... yet ur acting like a retard... good luck moron..

Well pakistan is happy with the news. Indian bros, don't foil their party. Pakistan is ready to open everything to USA.

How many thousand indians died in bhopal?
 
It was in both the Pakistani and American interest to resolve this matter amicably, and it has been, it was in the interest of indians that it did not, that is why they are crying on this thread.

So one has a changed headline while im correct about others... yet ur acting like a retard... good luck moron..



How many thousand indians died in bhopal?

Thousands are dying even today, but the indians let their executives run away, and they are still enjoying their freedom.

Hypocrisy thy name is india.
 
Easier to read big headlines in NYT and CNN to see accurate words.

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WASHINGTON — Pakistan told the United States it was reopening NATO’s supply routes into neighboring Afghanistan after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said she was sorry for the deaths of Pakistani soldiers in American airstrikes in November, the State Department said Tuesday.

The agreement ends a bitter seven-month stalemate between the two countries that has threatened to jeopardize counterterrorism cooperation and complicated the American troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

In a telephone call to Pakistan’s foreign minister, Hina Rabbani Khar, Mrs. Clinton said the two officials agreed that mistakes were made on both sides that led to the fatal airstrike.

“We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement issued by the State Department. “We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.”

The November airstrikes, which killed 24 soldiers in Pakistani territory after reports of militant activity in the area, led Pakistan to immediately close the supply lines and plunged relations between the countries to a low point.

The agreement on Tuesday followed a flurry of recent contacts between top American and Pakistani officials. Gen. John R. Allen, the American commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, met last week in Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad, with Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the Pakistani army chief of staff, to discuss counterterrorism strategy and the supply routes.

Over the weekend, Mrs. Clinton telephoned her congratulations to Pakistan’s new prime minister, Raja Pervez Ashraf, and brought up the issue. And on Monday, Thomas R. Nides, a deputy secretary of state, visited Islamabad to discuss the routes.

But the major stumbling block has been Pakistan’s demand for a formal American apology for the fatal airstrike in November. The Pentagon and the White House have adamantly opposed any additional apology beyond the several expressions of regret and condolences offered by many American officials — a carefully calibrated response during a hard-fought presidential campaign in the United States.

In her statement on Tuesday, Mrs. Clinton again expressed “deepest regrets for the tragic incident” last November and offered the administration’s “sincere condolences to the families of the Pakistani soldiers.” But the clincher for Pakistan seemed to be Mrs. Clinton’s using the word “sorry.”

In exchange, Pakistan dropped its insistence on a higher transit fee for each truck carrying NATO nonlethal supplies from Pakistan into Afghanistan, Mrs. Clinton said.

It was not immediately clear why Pakistan dropped the demand, which had been a hotly contested issue for months.

Pakistan, stung by the suspension of American military assistance last year, at first demanded a fee of $5,000 for each truck that crossed its territory from the port in Karachi to Afghanistan. Before the November attack, NATO had paid $250. Pakistan later reduced that demand to about $3,000 a truck; the United States had offered $1,000 per vehicle.

In the end, however, American officials said Pakistan agreed to keep the fee at $250 a truck. In return, the United States is expected to reimburse Pakistani up to $1 billion for costs incurred by some 150,000 Pakistani troops carrying out counterinsurgency operations along the border with Afghanistan, the officials said.

“This is a tangible demonstration of Pakistan’s support for a secure, peaceful, and prosperous Afghanistan and our shared objectives in the region,” Mrs. Clinton said in her statement, noting that waiving any transit fees will allow the United States and NATO to conduct “the planned drawdown at a much lower cost.”

The Pentagon has offset the closed route by using a much longer, more expensive northern supply line that runs into Afghanistan through Central Asia. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta has said the route was costing an extra $100 million a month.

Mr. Panetta on Tuesday applauded Pakistan’s decision, saying: "We remain committed to improving our partnership with Pakistan and to working closely together as our two nations confront common security challenges in the region." :disagree:

A top-level meeting of Pakistani civil and military leadership held in Islamabad on Tuesday evening gave the clearest indication of the Pakistani willingness to reopen the NATO supply routes.

Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf, who headed the meeting, said in a televised address that the supply line closures “not only impinge on our relationship with the United States but also on our relations with the 49 other member states of NATO/ISAF.”

Salman Masood contributed reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan.

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No this is not victory but instead defeat accepted by Pakistan at last. Cuz Obama never said sorry in any press conference and Hilary never said sorry in any joint press conference or requested for an official appology......Get ready there will be another Salalah like incident very soon.....I guess then our ruling elite might learn some lesson.........:smokin:

If you think like others, who push us for obama,s official applogy tour of pakistan, thn I must pray for their brains.
Its all over in the world media, that they(Usa) were in a Hury to get the nato supplies back on track, as soon as posible.
Its them comming to us , not us going to them?
Why?
100 million usd, paid extra evry single month , from last 6 months by american for their supplies from other supply routes in the region.
They are there for long time, we can get much more if, we. Wait a bit!
Much more thn we have ever think off!
But putting a halt on groowing indian security intersts was the basic intersts of pakistan.
We never know , if we Can stop it again on some other time on some other issue, wiith some other price lists in hand?
Its the attitude problem, in pakistan we should put our national intersts on the top, not the intersts of bunch of uneducateD mullahs?
 
Salala air raid: United States says sorry – finally

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SAN FRANCISCO: After months of squabbling that brought a slew of acrimonious exchanges, the United States finally said what Pakistan wanted to hear: sorry.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday apologised over last year’s deadly Nato air raid on Pakistan’s border posts in the Salala area of Mohmand Agency that killed over two dozen troops.

In reprisal for the unilateral raid on November 26, 2011, Pakistan had blocked the vital Nato transit routes and made US troops vacate the Shamsie airbase which was reportedly housing remotely-piloted aircraft.

Clinton said in a statement that she has offered her ‘deepest regrets’ over the Salala tragedy in a phone call to her Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar. She said ‘sorry’ for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military.

“Foreign Minister Khar and I acknowledged the mistakes that resulted in the loss of Pakistani military lives,” she said. “We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military. We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.”

Clinton and Khar spoke about “the importance of taking coordinated action against terrorists who threaten Pakistan, the United States, and the region; of supporting Afghanistan’s security, stability, and efforts towards reconciliation; and of continuing to work together to advance the many other shared interests we have”.

She said that both countries should have a “relationship that is enduring, strategic, and carefully defined, and that enhances the security and prosperity of both our nations and the region”.

The foreign minister has “informed me that the ground supply lines [of communications] into Afghanistan are opening,” according to Clinton. However, “no lethal equipment will transit through the GLOC into Afghanistan except for equipping the ANSF (Afghan national security forces)”.

Initial hopes of a deal on re-opening the routes had fallen apart at a Nato summit in Chicago in May amid reports that Pakistan was demanding huge fees for each of the thousands of trucks that rumble across the border every year.

An angry Defence Secretary Leon Panetta had said that Washington ‘will not be price gouged’ by Islamabad.

But Clinton said that Khar has told her that “Pakistan will continue not to charge any transit fee in the larger interest of peace and security in Afghanistan and the region.

“This is a tangible demonstration of Pakistan’s support for a secure, peaceful, and prosperous Afghanistan and our shared objectives in the region.”

Reopening the routes would help the United States and Nato to complete its withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan ‘at a much lower cost’, she said.

“This is critically important to the men and women who are fighting terrorism and extremism in Afghanistan.”

Pakistan’s top diplomat in Washington welcomed Clinton’s statement which, she said, would help repair the ties damaged by the standoff over the Nato routes.

“We appreciate Secretary Clinton’s statement, and hope that bilateral ties can move to a better place from here. I’m confident that both countries can agree on many critical issues, especially on bringing peace to the region,” Ambassador Sherry Rehman said in a statement.

Clinton’s ‘sorry’ preceded a ‘personal apology’ by the US commander of Nato forces Gen John Allen to Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani during a meeting in Islamabad earlier this week.

Gen Kayani appreciated the move but called it ‘insufficient’ for reopening the Nato routes, the BBC quoted a senior military official as saying.


Gen Kayani told the American commander that the matter was not between two militaries but between two states and that it should be resolved at the state level, according to the official.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 4th, 2012.
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Pakistan unblocks NATO routes


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SUPPLIES ON HOLD: 7 months and 6 days is the period of time during which Nato supply routes were closed by Pakistan, after the Salala check post attacks, leading to deteriorating bilateral ties.


ISLAMABAD: In the end, flexibility earned for both the United States and Pakistan what they mutually yearned for: an end to the protracted stalemate between the two allies.

Just as soon as an apology was tendered by Washington for last year’s Salala check post deaths, Islamabad announced the lifting of a seven-month-long ban on vital Nato supply routes for foreign forces stationed in Afghanistan.

The much-anticipated decision was taken at a high-powered gathering of the country’s civil and military leadership in the wake of the recent developments indicating that the two sides were close to a deal.

The Defence Committee of the Cabinet (DCC) meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and attended by key federal ministers as well as services and intelligence chiefs.

“The DCC has decided in principle to reopen the Nato supply routes,” Federal Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira told reporters outside the Prime Minister House.

The minister said that the government has decided to move beyond the Salala incident after the US showed “flexibility” in its stance by tendering an “apology.”

A statement issued after the meeting said that no “lethal cargo”, except equipment for the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), will go into Afghanistan.

The government also dropped its earlier demand of imposing taxes and additional transit fees on trucks carrying goods for the Nato forces.

When Islamabad had shut down the key border crossings in November last year in retaliation to the Nato air strikes on Pakistani check posts that killed 24 soldiers, only a handful could have predicted that the impasse would last this long.

But the two allies have finally brokered a deal after days of intense negotiations and deliberations. The breakthrough comes amidst Pakistan agreeing to accept a mild statement from US saying “sorry” instead of offering an outright apology for the contentious attack.

Sources said the Obama administration conveyed to Pakistan in clear terms that it would confine itself to saying “sorry” and not offer an “unconditional apology” due to domestic compulsions.

“Pakistan will continue not to charge any transit fee but the issue in the first place was not of financial gain but of the principle of sovereignty,” a statement said.

Anticipating the possible reaction, the government claimed that it had implemented the policy recommendations approved by parliament in April this year to reset ties with the United States.

The government has attempted to justify its decision by claiming that it was in Pakistan’s best interest to support the transition, peace and reconciliation process in Afghanistan as Nato/Isaf forces drawdown by 2014.

“To enable a smooth transition in Afghanistan it was essential for the military to drawdown at a lower cost and through an efficient transit facility,” it argued.

The DCC reiterated Pakistan’s stance on drones and agreed to continue to engage the US on counter-terrorism tools that are in line with international law and practice.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 4th, 2012.
 
As I see most of the Pakistani members are happy with the apology given by Hilary and they seem to have accepted it as well, so I'd like to congratulate the Pakistani govt and Pakistani people on this victory. :pakistan:
 
3) It remains to be see what else has been offered to Pakistan. I really doubt that Pakistan--who has the upper hand momentarily--would have accepted this semi-apology without getting something in return. On the fact of it, the charges are still $250 (or $500) per truck but THAT's for American domestic consumption--after all, Clinton had to sell this semi-apology and so hastened to add that Pakistan is not asking for any extra charges by Meengla

Very good analysis. I was thinking the same that what really could have GOP settled on. It's obvious it's not just a mere apology. US seemed so urgent in this despite the fact they struck a deal through Uzbekistan etc. I'm sure in the coming few days or weeks we'll see the real development.
Oh and let Indians stay hung up on whether it's a "real" apology or not. There is much bigger scanario to focus on. At the end I'm glad both countries are moving on with positive ambitions and cooperation.
 
you just show me this line when they said before please ???????//

We are sorry for the losses suffered by the Pakistani military. We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.
Its the height of arrogance by USA that they didn't even beg for appology.....the US statement shows that We are getting treated as slaves.......Mubarak hoo to Pakistan nation that We are their stupid slaves.........:angry:
 
Who are Clinotn and Allen ? Official aplogy should come from Obama in clear words,

"I BarakHussein Obama, president of the united states of america unconditionally apologize to the government, armed forces and people of Pakistan for intentionally and criminally murdering 24 brave sons of pakistan in a cowardly act of aggression, and assure you that no such incident will ever happen again. I also undertake to bring to justice the the criminals involved in this criminal act against our ally including panetta and general yada yada ? for this immoral, unethical and criminal attack"

Government of Pakistan should not accept this ******* half apology. After winning the well fought battle it must not be lost on the negotiations table. In fact Pakistan should not accept any apology now, time for apology is now over, this is only an eyewash US's own benefit. Now that theiir *** is on line, let them taste the full ****, no need to help them out in this situation. Teach them the full lesson, don't back out now. Zardari show some balls now, this is the time, this is the test.
 
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