US and Pakistani armies' Long history of working together

[rockstar08]

India will get close to USA
China will be the biggest trading partner of USA
Japan will have to move the USA base
S Korea will export more Samsung phones to USA

Yesl


Many countries will have relations with USA

And it doesn't mean

that Pakistan must shout why USA has all these relations with all these countries.


Peace

i am not shouting , nor anyone i think ...

what i was trying to say that priorities of the usa in the region is changing ..

we should not have blind eye on it ..

 

[farhan_9909]

It is true,for long,USA was our best friend and is the reason i have said this repeatedly that the complexity to understand the relationship between Pakistan-USA is beyond the understating of normal humans like us

 

[dil_dil]

USA is indeed one of best partners of Pakistan.

 

[fatman17]

There is no friendship, there never was nor will be. Pakistan became the US client state in the 50s with a transactional relationship. There was no help given to Pakistan in 65 or 71 wars. Bhutto was gotten rid off for non compliance, so was the guy who was used to get rid of Bhutto. Since then the transactional relationship has been in terminal decline seeing it hit rock bottom during the American attack on Salala.

Pakistan found out that US won't help during a war, so it went nuclear. Now we don't need the US protection which changes the nature of this 'relationship, as it was build on security.

Moving forward, either this relationship has to be completely scrapped or the rules of the game have to be re written. Pakistan can no longer afford a transactional relationship with the US. It has to be either elevated to a framework agreement with full revognition of Pakistan as a regional power and the member of global nuclear club or completely scrapped.

PK's expectations were wrong viz-a-vie US support in times of war with India. the US-PK mutual defence treaty, seato, cento were arrangements to encircle 'communists' USSR/China and thats why we were getting arms and material from the US with the idea that the PK army would battle the communists for the initial few days/weeks before US forces come to their support. there was no mention of supporting v. India. this was Ayub's mistake.

 

[Jf Thunder]

the opposed our N programme, how can they be allies? they picked up people from Pakistan to torture them, have diplomatic relations with them, well and good but don't get too cosy

 

[Avik274]

All of a sudden so much love!!

 

[Thorough Pro]

Only idiots don't worry about their brothers being bitten by the snake they choose to sleep with. Cowards who die last, have no one left to give them a decent burial.

Those who criticise Pakistan-US friendship are no friends of Pakistan. We are not concerned with what is happening in Syria, Ukraine, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Libya and other countries. Our priority should be Pakistan.

 

[faisal6309]

Pakistan is not a puppet state of America. Otherwise, we would not go nuclear. We have seen how much we've got support from US all these years. This doesn't mean that Pakistan should kill their relations with US. We should have relations with every other nation of world but should not go too deep in that relationship.

I only see China as friend of Pakistan. US is not friend just an other country we have relation with.

 

[friendly_troll96]

If the US has treated Pak unfairly Pak has never been a saint either. Pakistan is the kid that would spit in bully's burger when he is looking away.

 

[qamar1990]

hopefully relationships improve between both of my countries.....but both should look out for their own interests first.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Pakistan found out that US won't help during a war, so it went nuclear. Now we don't need the US protection which changes the nature of this 'relationship, as it was build on security.

Moving forward, either this relationship has to be completely scrapped or the rules of the game have to be re written. Pakistan can no longer afford a transactional relationship with the US. It has to be either elevated to a framework agreement with full revognition of Pakistan as a regional power and the member of global nuclear club or completely scrapped.

Pakistan took the wrong assumption. Look at CENTO, SEATO, both were to contain the GODLESS SOVIET COMMUNIST. No where did it say that the US would help Pakistan in reclaiming Kashmir.

It's up to Pakistan to claim what it should get. Listen, you work for someone, and that person pays you. You have to say "boss, my services are worth more than what your giving me", and the boss haggles a price you both agree on.

If the Pakistani Politicians are intent on having a mandate given by Saudi Arabia and the US saying that the PPP/PLMN/ PTI can rule Pakistan why should they ask for anymore?

how can they be allies? they picked up people from Pakistan to torture them, have diplomatic relations with them, well and good but don't get too cosy

And what did Pakistan do about it?

I only see China as friend of Pakistan. US is not friend just an other country we have relation with.

The US provides more to Pakistan than the Chinese do to Pakistan. Look at the remittances, aid/loans. Compare that to the $48 Billion China will invest in the next what? 6/7/10 years?

 

[Jf Thunder]

And what did Pakistan do about it?

nothing cuz our Rulers dont wanna do anything, its similar to like you couldn't do shit about our N Programme except jumping up and down screaming................

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

nothing cuz our Rulers dont wanna do anything, its similar to like you couldn't do shit about our N Programme except jumping up and down screaming................

The US can bhai saab.

Pakistan having nukes is the lesser of 2 evils.

 

[Judge]

There is no friendship, there never was nor will be. Pakistan became the US client state in the 50s with a transactional relationship. There was no help given to Pakistan in 65 or 71 wars. Bhutto was gotten rid off for non compliance, so was the guy who was used to get rid of Bhutto. Since then the transactional relationship has been in terminal decline seeing it hit rock bottom during the American attack on Salala.

Pakistan found out that US won't help during a war, so it went nuclear. Now we don't need the US protection which changes the nature of this 'relationship, as it was build on security.

Moving forward, either this relationship has to be completely scrapped or the rules of the game have to be re written. Pakistan can no longer afford a transactional relationship with the US. It has to be either elevated to a framework agreement with full revognition of Pakistan as a regional power and the member of global nuclear club or completely scrapped.

The problem of US is that despite whatever it does for Pakistan, there is not a single Pakistani who realizes it.

Are you aware that the single reason why India never attacked West Pakistan in 1971 was US? That US threatened Soviet Union with a war if it did not stop India from shifting its military to attack West Pakistan?

Are you aware that after US imposed sanctions on both countries, US also arranged for weapons to be transported to Pakistan from third countries?

No. Talk about being ungrateful.

 

[waz]

The Pakistan/US relationship is long, has been severely testing at times, great at times and looks set to continue.

I hope ties continue to grow or get better.