US ambassador 'killed in Libya'

[AViet]

No, every country should have its own system, developed to suit itself at that era. In Vietnam, one-party system, for the moment, is better suited in my opinion, but it can change to democracy in near future. But for some countries, like India, democratic system bring chaotic and barrier to healthy growth. It can be changed to military dictatorship, who know, if better suited.

If you study history, you will see that more democratic and more authocratic regimes interwinded along the time of human history, although in other names.

OK, that is my point. Every one may cling to his own opinion.

 

[gambit]

Right on man, because that's the exactly the thing US asked China after the Chinese embassy bombing. The only argument US state department came up with was "What could the US gain by bombing the Chinese Embassy?"

Good. Then we can put that event to rest.

Now I am simply asking the same question, What could Libya gain by killing US embassy staff?

Witnesses via videos reported the crowd chanting Osama's name. This is no longer something spontaneous but coordinated, meaning the attacks in Libya and Egypt are planned.

 

[Awesome]

US Ambassador to Libya has been killed. Stick to the topic.

 

[gambit]

America soldiers killed children and elders in Vietnam escaped the trial easily. Is Vietnamese not human?. The ambassador, with all my respect to him, is dead by US crime which his country have done all over the world. The US, together with some Western countries, have committed far more crime than any empire in world history.

Spare everyone your fake 'respect'. Real respect for envoys and ambassadors are enshrined in international relations. Even the North Vietnamese respected their American counterparts.

Let look in Vietnam. Even third or fourth generation baby is now still born with incomplete body and disfigured face by the orange agent, especially in Central region, like Quang Binh, Quang Tri, Nghe An, Thanh Hoa provinces. I live in Hanoi, in the north of Vietnam, but one of my wife's collegue now still have new-born child with no hair and weak mentality due to his maternal grandfather exposed to orange agent, although his uncle is abnormal, but his mother, the direct descendant, seems healthy to get marriage

These tragedies from war are regrettable and the US should make amends to the Viets. However, this does not absolve the communists from continuing the war when it was clear AFTER the 1968 Tet Offensive, of which I am a survivor, that the South does not want to live under communism. You want to discuss Viet Nam? Find an old appropriate thread and resurrect it.

US Ambassador to Libya has been killed. Stick to the topic.

You think these guys can control themselves?

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

No, every country should have its own system, developed to suit itself at that era. In Vietnam, one-party system, for the moment, is better suited in my opinion, but it can change to democracy in near future. But for some countries, like India, democratic system bring chaotic and barrier to healthy growth. It can be changed to military dictatorship, who know, if better suited.

If you study history, you will see that more democratic and more authocratic regimes interwinded along the time of human history, although in other names.

OK, that is my point. Every one may cling to his own opinion.

You think Vietnam we are "successful" after the opening to foreign investment, and that is the great merit of the Party (?!). But you do not know that Vietnam was lagging too far behind the other countries in southeast asia such as Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore ... and the country you say it is poor, the Philippines, it has GDP twice GDP of Vietnam. What a fool!

 

[asianamerican]

This is blowbacks. The US kills officials with drones and supported terrorism across the world. CIA should be classified as a terrorist organization. The US were happy when they see the whole Gaddafi family killed by their drones and terrorist.

I don't feel sympathy for American officials as they are no different when they continuously call for wars. If they get war, we should all be happy. Because this is what America wanted.

 

[gambit]

No, every country should have its own system, developed to suit itself at that era. In Vietnam, one-party system, for the moment, is better suited in my opinion, but it can change to democracy in near future. But for some countries, like India, democratic system bring chaotic and barrier to healthy growth. It can be changed to military dictatorship, who know, if better suited.

If you study history, you will see that more democratic and more authocratic regimes interwinded along the time of human history, although in other names.

OK, that is my point. Every one may cling to his own opinion.

Why India but not Europe and the Americas? Look at the current situations in the ME where one party rule have been for these decades. You think they would give up power that easily?

 

[gambit]

What bullshit is this !!

For every mess that happens in Muslim world.....why blame the US !! ...sure the US and nato supported the rebels....but why was there rebels in the first place !! why was libya divided in to two ....why did half the army defect.....Only because there was large discontent and oppression that there was any chance for revolution !!!

What these yay-hoos do not understand is that civil wars seldom contain themselves. There are always interests from the next door neighbors. Even when the New World was separated by an ocean that required days to cross, foreign interests were already in play prior to the first shot in the American Civil War. French's and England's meddling in that war became the fodder for assorted Hollywood entertainment today.

Syria is next and that is why our Syrian member is so active in trying boost himself up with all these loony conspiracy theories.

 

[magecaster]

Self delete.

 

[United]

Witnesses via videos reported the crowd chanting Osama's name. This is no longer something spontaneous but coordinated, meaning the attacks in Libya and Egypt are planned.

hold on........so according to u the attackers were shouting osama name rt? and this whole thing is coordinated....!!!!
so tat means the film maker is also involved he made a film so Muslims get angry and then pretext of tat kill the ambassador.

NIce but there is are only 2 org that can do so-much coordination MOOSAD/CIA.

so who is it my vet-cong friend?

 

[magecaster]

This is blowbacks. The US kills officials with drones and supported terrorism across the world. CIA should be classified as a terrorist organization. The US were happy when they see the whole Gaddafi family killed by their drones and terrorist.

I don't feel sympathy for American officials as they are no different when they continuously call for wars. If they get war, we should all be happy. Because this is what America wanted.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/207175-us-ambassador-killed-libya-36.html#ixzz26KXhJ46C

While I agree attacking via drones is a terrible idea and I would like nothing more than for US to stop using them, you just have to look at the facts to see how your premise is at fault. These people were offended, not by the drone attacks but by some movie, by their own admission (which is not even endorsed by any US official). In other words if you want to be able to criticize Islam in any shape or form, these people think it a legitimate project to break international law, storm an embassy and kill a foreign ambassador.

I don't agree with Hitchens on a lot of things but I think he sums up this point better than anyone else here.

 

[kobiraaz]

While I agree attacking via drones is a terrible idea and I would like nothing more than for US to stop using them, you just have to look at the facts to see how your premise is at fault. These people were offended, not by the drone attacks but by some movie, by their own admission (which is not even endorsed by any US official). In other words if you want to be able to criticize Islam in any shape or form, these people think it a legitimate project to break international law, storm an embassy and kill a foreign ambassador.

I don't agree with Hitchens on a lot of things but I think he sums up this point better than anyone else here.

Ok he died accidentally right? Asphyxia From smoke ! So it wasn't intentional.......

 

[Roybot]

Ok he died accidentally right? Asphyxia From smoke ! So it wasn't intentional.......

Yes the smoke created by RPG attack on the American consulate, and that was no accident!

 

[United]

What these yay-hoos do not understand is that civil wars seldom contain themselves. There are always interests from the next door neighbors. Even when the New World was separated by an ocean that required days to cross, foreign interests were already in play prior to the first shot in the American Civil War. French's and England's meddling in that war became the fodder for assorted Hollywood entertainment today.

Syria is next ........

so does this imply fully tat u guys have played a role in all this?

 

[magecaster]

Ofcourse it was intentional, smoke or bullets, it was a gruesome murder.