US accuses Pakistan of providing sanctuaries to Taliban

[Asian.Century]

 

[Goritoes]

Pakistan's head of State in an interview ask US establishment to show him those so called Sanctuaries or safe heaven but no response from America, They got the best Spy satellites so what's stopping America from showing the world those Sanctuaries in Pakistan?

 

[Nasr]

Let's see: So there is nothing to worry about then. The "enemy" is dying and "we" are winning. Great!

Nothing to worry about? Every decision we make in our lives, we will be held accountable for on Judgement Day, before Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. And you're saying there is nothing to worry about? What planet are you living on, my dear friend?

And go where, exactly?

To a land where you are not persecuted for you being poor, you being Muslim, you being Christian, you desire live free to practice your faith.

And if you cannot go anywhere, then wage the struggle and stand before Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah to ask for HIS help. Surely there is no one on this planet or in the Cosmos who can help you, only Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah can help you, me and every human living or dead.

 

[Nasr]

I would just say that:

Actions speak louder than words...let see in the coming days if these Countries take or support any kinetic action to safeguard their long term interests in Afghanistan.

Unlike the hegemonic West, the Russia I know is not one who will impose itself on the Afghans. For as an Afghan by birth myself, even I know that the Russia is and will not ever be, what the Soviets were.

Long term interests in Afghanistan, are the interests of Afghans for their country, neither Russia, nor China, or Pakistan will ever impose their will on the Afghans. It's their land and only Afghans will decide what they want for their people.

 

[S.Y.A]

Unlike the hegemonic West, the Russia I know is not one who will impose itself on the Afghans

here comes the imran hossein inspired russian shilling......

 

[Adecypher]

Unlike the hegemonic West, the Russia I know is not one who will impose itself on the Afghans. For as an Afghan by birth myself, even I know that the Russia is and will not ever be, what the Soviets were.

Long term interests in Afghanistan, are the interests of Afghans for their country, neither Russia, nor China, or Pakistan will ever impose their will on the Afghans. It's their land and only Afghans will decide what they want for their people.

You did not get my drift, peace in Afghanistan is imperative for peace and stability in the region. Currently, as the situation stands due to the constant interference of “non state” actors attaining peace is a very difficult prospect since the agenda is creating chaos. The question is not to impose or dictate Afghans but to support a side which will effectively maintain peace in Afghanistan. Till now I haven’t seen any indication that required support is offered …

 

[VCheng]

Nothing to worry about? Every decision we make in our lives, we will be held accountable for on Judgement Day, before Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. And you're saying there is nothing to worry about? What planet are you living on, my dear friend?

The same planet that you were place by both our Creator, sadly.

To a land where you are not persecuted for you being poor, you being Muslim, you being Christian, you desire live free to practice your faith.

I am living in such a land already, all praise to Allah!

And if you cannot go anywhere, then wage the struggle and stand before Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah to ask for HIS help. Surely there is no one on this planet or in the Cosmos who can help you, only Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah can help you, me and every human living or dead.

I asked for His help. He surely led me to where I am right now.



Now, back on topic, how is Pakistan going to deal with the sanctuaries that the world thinks are inside its borders, rightly or wrongly? That is the important question here.

 

[HAIDER]

We have journalists like Ahmed Qurashi who speak out of their arse to international media and create problems for Pakistan ... in reference to his yesterday interview on Radio NPR, where he claimed Taliban leadership sitting on the border of Pakistan-Afghanistan and running there command and control.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

US has been accusing Pakistan of aiding Taliban for more than 15 years now. But so far, US needed Pakistan's logistical help to access and maintain its troops in Afghanistan. Now that the US has packed up from Afghan land, the leverage that Pakistan had over US has greatly diminished.

So now, the question is - Does US care enough about Afghanistan to do anything about this?

It is to American benefit for Taliban to return to power, though their first priority would have been a stable Afghan regime that can provide them a base

prior to 9/11

Taliban was killing Iranian diplomats
Iran Holds Taliban Responsible for 9 Diplomats' Deaths
Supporting a civil war in Tajikistan and keeping the Russians busy

Provided safe haven for Uyghur extremists causing problems in Xinjiang

Return of Taliban and repeat of the above can keep Russian focused on Central Asia instead of Europe or middle-east

Keep Iran focused on Afghanistan instead of Middle-east

Any problems Taliban causes to India/Pakistan/China will be used by Americans to barter for economic/diplomatic concessions

As long as Taliban doesn't house terrorists wanted by USA, its all good for them

 

[Wood]

It is to American benefit for Taliban to return to power, though their first priority would have been a stable Afghan regime that can provide them a base

prior to 9/11

Taliban was killing Iranian diplomats
Iran Holds Taliban Responsible for 9 Diplomats' Deaths
Supporting a civil war in Tajikistan and keeping the Russians busy

Provided safe haven for Uyghur extremists causing problems in Xinjiang

Return of Taliban and repeat of the above can keep Russian focused on Central Asia instead of Europe or middle-east

Keep Iran focused on Afghanistan instead of Middle-east

Any problems Taliban causes to India/Pakistan/China will be used by Americans to barter for economic/diplomatic concessions

As long as Taliban doesn't house terrorists wanted by USA, its all good for them

I do not find your theory plausible. US would have a more reliable modus operandi to achieve these cynical objectives (vis-à-vis Iran, Russia, China) with a pliable Afghan gov. than with Taliban. If anything, US will now be hoping for there to not be a second coming of Bin Laden from Afghanistan.

US has seemingly come to a realization that it cannot find a return for the money spent in Afghanistan post Abbottabad. The democratic voices in Afghanistan have too big of an enemy in Taliban (and its well wishers) to be successful.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Your confession say the whole stories that Pakistan is not Important It was Pakistan Who made you super power and it is Pakistan by virtue of which you lost the war in Afghanistan All you authorities are saying this and now begging for access to Afghanistan

It's gona be a long post and sorry for that and thanks for reading. Before I start, I personally have favored Pakistan. I know Pakistan has been in the US block since it's creation. So respect there. However, the situation you find yourself in today, is NOT America's or anyone's fault tbh. You guys as a country, didn't change with the changing world fast enough. Sadly, even Bangladesh is a big step ahead than you. Ever Saudis for example, have changed their ways and are working tirelessly on building an alternative economy that would be real. Knowing history (yes I'm old), I know Pakistan had produced top economic advisors to many nations back in the 70's. Where is the growth for your own country? Where is a system designed to produce economic well being, etc? Who are your strategic partners in trade and employment, etc. (Middle East is NOT your strategic anything).

Military conflicts don't make top economies and super powers. It is the hardest thing to make any Pakistani realize. You guys are so hung up in conflicts / wars. The nations are built on a system and on an economy, see China and India, two super powers in making over the next ten years. They will ONLY succeed if their economic system produces and sustains the GDP of a super power. Also see Turkey, Malaysia for comparison with Pakistan.

Lastly, to your comment about "you making us the super power". That's an emotional statement. The US didn't have the economic or military base to be a super power is what you are telling me? Remember the 90's? Remember the Russian economic collapse where people were on the street getting soup and bread from the government's sent rations? Russian currency becoming worthless? Whether there was the Afghan war or not, Russia was going to go, due to her poor economy. It's not wars that make super powers, it's the economy and a working system behind it that makes it happen. I hope you read my post seriously.

 

[Adecypher]

It's not wars that make super powers, it's the economy and a working system behind it that makes it happen. I hope you read my post seriously.

Some may argue that US is to some extent a War economy ... what are your thoughts on that...?

 

[Maula Jatt]

It's gona be a long post and sorry for that and thanks for reading. Before I start, I personally have favored Pakistan. I know Pakistan has been in the US block since it's creation. So respect there. However, the situation you find yourself in today, is NOT America's or anyone's fault tbh. You guys as a country didn't change with the changing world fast enough. Sadly, even Bangladesh is big step ahead then you. Ever Saudis for example, have changed their ways and are working tirelessly on building an alternative economy that would be real. Knowing history (yes I'm old), I know Pakistan had produced top economic advisors to many nations back in the 70's. Where is the growth for your own country? Where is a system designed to produce economic well being, etc? Who are your strategic partners in trade and employment, etc. (Middle East is NOT your strategic anything).

Military conflicts don't make top economies and super powers. It is the hardest thing to make any Pakistani realize. You guys are so hung up in conflicts / wars. The nations are built on a system and on an economy, see China and India, two super powers in making over the next ten years. They will ONLY success if their economic system produces and sustains the GDP of a super power. Also see Turkey, Malaysia for comparison with Pakistan.

Lastly, to your comment about "you making us the super power". That's an emotional statement. The US didn't have the economic or military base to be a super power is what you are telling me? Remember the 90's? Remember the Russian economic collapse where people were on the street getting soup and bread from the government's sent rations? Russian currency becoming worthless? Whether there was the Afghan war or not, Russia was going to go, due to her poor economy. It's not wars that make super powers, it's the economy and a working system behind it that makes it happen. I hope you read my post seriously.

I feel we were stuck in the 80s time copsule for decades - while countries marched ahead

80s was a cultural, psychological shift for the country men, powers to be and we just got stuck on that loop for a while where one thing after another came which didn't give us the time to reflect, change our mindset

But I certainly feel things are changing for the better in terms of things you mentioned, on growth, peace, devolopament and less war focused

The breathing space after terrorism stopped

gave powers to be time to reflect,

 

[DJ_Viper]

Some may argue that US is to some extent a War economy ... what are your thoughts on that...?

Has the US gone to wars flexing it's military muscle and grown it's military industrial complex........yes.
Is the US a 'war economy"? We've not been at war anywhere for the past few years. Yet, the growth in our economy has been stellar to say the least just in the past 3 years (it probably overwrites the past 10 years IMO around profits / growth, etc).

Here, some history might help. US had a stock market back in 1790-1800's I believe:

New York Stock Exchange - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Thorough Pro]

Americans are dumbass idiots.
Afghanistan is the worlds biggest Taliban sanctuary which was under US rule for the last 20 years, what the **** did they do there to get rid of them?
Apparently nothing, because within days of US forces leaving, Taliban have taken over almost all of Afghanistan.
So if US wants to cry like a bitch or moan like a whore, it should do so while pointing a finger at itself.