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US accuses Pakistan of providing sanctuaries to Taliban

US has been accusing Pakistan of aiding Taliban for more than 15 years now. But so far, US needed Pakistan's logistical help to access and maintain its troops in Afghanistan. Now that the US has packed up from Afghan land, the leverage that Pakistan had over US has greatly diminished.

So now, the question is - Does US care enough about Afghanistan to do anything about this?
 
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if USA want to destablize all the need is two things make pakistan FATF black list and sanction pakistan like iran pakistan will be collapse without IMF WB loans only


Now that is a flawed thinking, because you are implying that america can act with impunity and no one can stop it. That could not be further from the truth. People really ought to go back and reeducate themselves on the history of the world since the 14th Century. For it is not just that one studies history, rather to study the history and the international arena politics, through the lens of the Noble Qur'an. Without which, one would come to the assumption, as is in the quote above.

The days when america could unilaterally go to war or impose sanctions to destroy any country, or to force any country to its will. Those days have faded into the annals of history, a long time ago. A country constructed on the foundations of slavery and genocide, became a superpower and exponentially wrought destruction upon humanity, the likes of which have never been witnessed before.

Today, the balance of power has tilted and it is no longer in the favor of the West. america and the West have lost their advantage, which they held for over two centuries. Today, the world has become far more aware of the truth about the West, it's hegemonic tact, it's exceptionalist attitude and it's blood-lust for wars. From the wholesale genocide of the Native Americans (THE REAL AMERICANS), to the enormity of slavery of Africa, to the Chemical Weapons that massacred Vietnamese who fought for their freedom against the Colonialist-P!G which is france, to the war-mongering invasions of Panama, Granada and Cuba. The war and invasion of Iraq, based on the P!g-Headed LIE about WMD. To the indoctrination, training and proliferation of Western Grown Terrorists, masquerading around as Muslims.

Who can honestly think that this circus act which is the West, has anyone fooled? More and more of the world is waking up to the nasty and true face of the West.

So when someone says that Pakistan can be Blacklisted on some Western invented FATF and that would destroy Pakistan. They are far removed from the reality of the World, than ever before. FATF is a tool used by the West to subjugate weak countries. Pakistan, if I may be so blunt, is not a weak country. In fact, Pakistan has what Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Granada and Panama did not have when these countries were decimated by Western wars, sanctions and massacre. Pakistan has an ally which is not only one of the most powerful economic nations in the world, but also is a permanent UNSC member. Pakistan has Nuclear Power, which other states did not have. Pakistan has a powerful military, which has been consistently been becoming more powerful by every passing decade.

So sorry to say, today america is less than half the power it was 30 years ago. Today, Russia and China have risen in both military and economic power, and have garnered the support of nations who are defiant in the face of Western hegemony. Today's america is one which bled money, gushing trillions of dollars in their "Forever Wars." america's national debt today is $28.5 trilion and by 2029 this national debt will have skyrocketed to $89 trillion. That figure is the harbinger of america's collapse as a superpower. And that was all america was, a superpower, for a while.

I see there are those amongst us, who even today are desperately clinging to america as the preeminent power on the planet. They will be in for a painful reality, when Russia crushes america and the West's attempt at WW3. That day, they may or may not realize that america and the West's bet on Air Power, was a grossly over estimated. That day, some may (who use their brains and are not brainwashed parrots) realize that there is another kind of Air Power, far superior to the one the West clings on to.

The reality is, the West is collapsing, not just economically, but also politically, militarily, in terms of alliance and socially. Fortunately, the West is pursuing what it sees as its only chance at regaining its hegemony over the world, and that is WAR. Yes, you didn't read that wrong, I did type "Fortunately" because when it does happen, there would be no more Western hegemony left to bother the world. So if you are Muslim, and you happen to live in the West, and you have Imaan in your hearts .... I suggest you get the hell outta dodge, in a hurry.
 
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Hold on a minute, I still don't get this BS.....US negotiates with the Talibaan and exits the country and yet their office/stations etc., are considered Terrorist Safehavens? WTF???? What was the US doing for the past 20 years in Afghanistan if not removing the same safehavens and what were the successful negotiations all about which gave the US a face saving exit? Were those negotiations not with the SAME TALIBAAN?
 
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Where have you been last 50+ years Diljit?

Bruh, I'm not an Indian. Steve is the name. Just trying to educate man with reality. I feel like either everyone lives in a bubble on here (with respect to the true world reality vs. the PDF reality), or, just doesn't want to face the truth. The world around you is changing very fast. Pakistan is not....... and by saying this, instead of name calls, try to relate to my sincerity. Thanks
 
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America in Afganistan was not for Afghanistan but to destabilize Pakistan in which America not succeeded fully now America is crying

The actual reason was to destroy the people who attacked us and secondary purpose, to stay close to Russia and China.

I disagree with you on Pakistan and related narrative. No offense, but Pakistan isn't that important to the US. Because if it was, it would be a strategic partner. Pakistan needs a $ 1T or 2T economy and the entire world would be a strategic partner. Just the language the world speaks today. Honestly, if the US needed anything, it would get it from India about Pakistan. No one knows more Pakistan than India (and vis-a-vis). You guys have shared borders for the past 70 years and 4 wars...
 
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Now that is a flawed thinking, because you are implying that america can act with impunity and no one can stop it. That could not be further from the truth. People really ought to go back and reeducate themselves on the history of the world since the 14th Century. For it is not just that one studies history, rather to study the history and the international arena politics, through the lens of the Noble Qur'an. Without which, one would come to the assumption, as is in the quote above.

The days when america could unilaterally go to war or impose sanctions to destroy any country, or to force any country to its will. Those days have faded into the annals of history, a long time ago. A country constructed on the foundations of slavery and genocide, became a superpower and exponentially wrought destruction upon humanity, the likes of which have never been witnessed before.

Today, the balance of power has tilted and it is no longer in the favor of the West. america and the West have lost their advantage, which they held for over two centuries. Today, the world has become far more aware of the truth about the West, it's hegemonic tact, it's exceptionalist attitude and it's blood-lust for wars. From the wholesale genocide of the Native Americans (THE REAL AMERICANS), to the enormity of slavery of Africa, to the Chemical Weapons that massacred Vietnamese who fought for their freedom against the Colonialist-P!G which is france, to the war-mongering invasions of Panama, Granada and Cuba. The war and invasion of Iraq, based on the P!g-Headed LIE about WMD. To the indoctrination, training and proliferation of Western Grown Terrorists, masquerading around as Muslims.

Who can honestly think that this circus act which is the West, has anyone fooled? More and more of the world is waking up to the nasty and true face of the West.

So when someone says that Pakistan can be Blacklisted on some Western invented FATF and that would destroy Pakistan. They are far removed from the reality of the World, than ever before. FATF is a tool used by the West to subjugate weak countries. Pakistan, if I may be so blunt, is not a weak country. In fact, Pakistan has what Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Granada and Panama did not have when these countries were decimated by Western wars, sanctions and massacre. Pakistan has an ally which is not only one of the most powerful economic nations in the world, but also is a permanent UNSC member. Pakistan has Nuclear Power, which other states did not have. Pakistan has a powerful military, which has been consistently been becoming more powerful by every passing decade.

So sorry to say, today america is less than half the power it was 30 years ago. Today, Russia and China have risen in both military and economic power, and have garnered the support of nations who are defiant in the face of Western hegemony. Today's america is one which bled money, gushing trillions of dollars in their "Forever Wars." america's national debt today is $28.5 trilion and by 2029 this national debt will have skyrocketed to $89 trillion. That figure is the harbinger of america's collapse as a superpower. And that was all america was, a superpower, for a while.

I see there are those amongst us, who even today are desperately clinging to america as the preeminent power on the planet. They will be in for a painful reality, when Russia crushes america and the West's attempt at WW3. That day, they may or may not realize that america and the West's bet on Air Power, was a grossly over estimated. That day, some may (who use their brains and are not brainwashed parrots) realize that there is another kind of Air Power, far superior to the one the West clings on to.

The reality is, the West is collapsing, not just economically, but also politically, militarily, in terms of alliance and socially. Fortunately, the West is pursuing what it sees as its only chance at regaining its hegemony over the world, and that is WAR. Yes, you didn't read that wrong, I did type "Fortunately" because when it does happen, there would be no more Western hegemony left to bother the world. So if you are Muslim, and you happen to live in the West, and you have Imaan in your hearts .... I suggest you get the hell outta dodge, in a hurry.

Let's see:

"Today, the balance of power has tilted and it is no longer in the favor of the West. ... Pakistan, if I may be so blunt, is not a weak country. ... today america is less than half the power it was 30 years ago. ... there is another kind of Air Power, far superior to the one the West clings on to. ... The reality is, the West is collapsing, not just economically, but also politically, militarily, in terms of alliance and socially. ... "


So there is nothing to worry about then. The "enemy" is dying and "we" are winning. Great!

And then:

"So if you are Muslim, and you happen to live in the West, and you have Imaan in your hearts .... I suggest you get the hell outta dodge, in a hurry."

And go where, exactly?
 
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Let's see:

"Today, the balance of power has tilted and it is no longer in the favor of the West. ... Pakistan, if I may be so blunt, is not a weak country. ... today america is less than half the power it was 30 years ago. ... there is another kind of Air Power, far superior to the one the West clings on to. ... The reality is, the West is collapsing, not just economically, but also politically, militarily, in terms of alliance and socially. ... "


So there is nothing to worry about then. The "enemy" is dying and "we" are winning. Great!

And then:

"So if you are Muslim, and you happen to live in the West, and you have Imaan in your hearts .... I suggest you get the hell outta dodge, in a hurry."

And go where, exactly?
Apparently they believe that anaouzubillah Allah is not omnipresent or omnipotent.
 
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US has been accusing Pakistan of aiding Taliban for more than 15 years now. But so far, US needed Pakistan's logistical help to access and maintain its troops in Afghanistan. Now that the US has packed up from Afghan land, the leverage that Pakistan had over US has greatly diminished.

So now, the question is - Does US care enough about Afghanistan to do anything about this?

LOL that is exactly what we want. The US out and not care about Afghanistan. Awesome.

Let the new reality sink in. China will substitute US/NATO.
 
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Apparently they believe that anaouzubillah Allah is not omnipresent or omnipotent.

Exactly. Why is where I choose to live not as much Allah's creation as anywhere else in the cosmos?
 
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ANA very poor display vs Taliban will always put us in the USA firing line

I hate to think now what will happen when Kabul falls in 30 days!
 
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There is a saying in Punjabi

"Put lo jo putna ai."
Thats what Pakistan should tell USA, India and Afghanistan now.

Enough is enough. Near the border doesn't mean inside Pakistan.
What about India running terror training camps right under the noses of CIA!!

You think that happened without wink and a nod by uncle SAM!!!
Heyy dont genocide Karachiites by speaking Punjabi. How dare you??

On topic:
U.S plan to reinsert terrorists into Pakistan and maybe even Turkey
 
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The actual reason was to destroy the people who attacked us and secondary purpose, to stay close to Russia and China.

I disagree with you on Pakistan and related narrative. No offense, but Pakistan isn't that important to the US. Because if it was, it would be a strategic partner. Pakistan needs a $ 1T or 2T economy and the entire world would be a strategic partner. Just the language the world speaks today. Honestly, if the US needed anything, it would get it from India about Pakistan. No one knows more Pakistan than India (and vis-a-vis). You guys have shared borders for the past 70 years and 4 wars...
Your confession say the whole stories that Pakistan is not Important It was Pakistan Who made you super power and it is Pakistan by virtue of which you lost the war in Afghanistan All you authorities are saying this and now begging for access to Afghanistan
 
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Now that is a flawed thinking, because you are implying that america can act with impunity and no one can stop it. That could not be further from the truth. People really ought to go back and reeducate themselves on the history of the world since the 14th Century. For it is not just that one studies history, rather to study the history and the international arena politics, through the lens of the Noble Qur'an. Without which, one would come to the assumption, as is in the quote above.

The days when america could unilaterally go to war or impose sanctions to destroy any country, or to force any country to its will. Those days have faded into the annals of history, a long time ago. A country constructed on the foundations of slavery and genocide, became a superpower and exponentially wrought destruction upon humanity, the likes of which have never been witnessed before.

Today, the balance of power has tilted and it is no longer in the favor of the West. america and the West have lost their advantage, which they held for over two centuries. Today, the world has become far more aware of the truth about the West, it's hegemonic tact, it's exceptionalist attitude and it's blood-lust for wars. From the wholesale genocide of the Native Americans (THE REAL AMERICANS), to the enormity of slavery of Africa, to the Chemical Weapons that massacred Vietnamese who fought for their freedom against the Colonialist-P!G which is france, to the war-mongering invasions of Panama, Granada and Cuba. The war and invasion of Iraq, based on the P!g-Headed LIE about WMD. To the indoctrination, training and proliferation of Western Grown Terrorists, masquerading around as Muslims.

Who can honestly think that this circus act which is the West, has anyone fooled? More and more of the world is waking up to the nasty and true face of the West.

So when someone says that Pakistan can be Blacklisted on some Western invented FATF and that would destroy Pakistan. They are far removed from the reality of the World, than ever before. FATF is a tool used by the West to subjugate weak countries. Pakistan, if I may be so blunt, is not a weak country. In fact, Pakistan has what Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Granada and Panama did not have when these countries were decimated by Western wars, sanctions and massacre. Pakistan has an ally which is not only one of the most powerful economic nations in the world, but also is a permanent UNSC member. Pakistan has Nuclear Power, which other states did not have. Pakistan has a powerful military, which has been consistently been becoming more powerful by every passing decade.

So sorry to say, today america is less than half the power it was 30 years ago. Today, Russia and China have risen in both military and economic power, and have garnered the support of nations who are defiant in the face of Western hegemony. Today's america is one which bled money, gushing trillions of dollars in their "Forever Wars." america's national debt today is $28.5 trilion and by 2029 this national debt will have skyrocketed to $89 trillion. That figure is the harbinger of america's collapse as a superpower. And that was all america was, a superpower, for a while.

I see there are those amongst us, who even today are desperately clinging to america as the preeminent power on the planet. They will be in for a painful reality, when Russia crushes america and the West's attempt at WW3. That day, they may or may not realize that america and the West's bet on Air Power, was a grossly over estimated. That day, some may (who use their brains and are not brainwashed parrots) realize that there is another kind of Air Power, far superior to the one the West clings on to.

The reality is, the West is collapsing, not just economically, but also politically, militarily, in terms of alliance and socially. Fortunately, the West is pursuing what it sees as its only chance at regaining its hegemony over the world, and that is WAR. Yes, you didn't read that wrong, I did type "Fortunately" because when it does happen, there would be no more Western hegemony left to bother the world. So if you are Muslim, and you happen to live in the West, and you have Imaan in your hearts .... I suggest you get the hell outta dodge, in a hurry.

Well said Fred. lolz

Agree wholeheartedly brother.
 
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Today, Russia and China have risen in both military and economic power...

I would just say that:

Actions speak louder than words...let see in the coming days if these Countries take or support any kinetic action to safeguard their long term interests in Afghanistan ....
 
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