Urdu Speakers need to ask some TOUGH QUESTIONS from Pakistan

[Muji.Iqbal]

Urdu speaking people, you mean the only civilized people who are surrounded by Jahil tribal wadera's jagerdaars and uncivilized barbarians ? meh, Urdu speaking boys should get their education, save money and get the hell out of Pakistan.

Disagree with you. As a Muslim I still believe in Pakistan. We need to fix it.

 

[ThunderCat]

Urdu speaking people, you mean the only civilized people who are surrounded by Jahil tribal wadera's jagerdaars and uncivilized barbarians ? meh, Urdu speaking boys should get their education, save money and get the hell out of Pakistan.

That would mean all of us. They might have given the name "urdu" but it's not their language. Our language was known as Lashkari in the early decades of it's development in Lahore.

 

[muz20152]

So,

Good Luck to Kakar....A new man in charge.

Everything is going good - Everywhere changes are happening...

EXCEPT IN SINDH/KARACHI...

For 15 Years - same PPP government is ruling over us - who was not even voted by us.

How does rest of Pakistan feels now when governed by those whom you never voted?...You are surely feeling now what Karachi has been feeling and facing for damn 15 years since 2007.

Do you guys remember how I used to make hue cry on this very forum for my Karachi and you all used to make fun of me and bash me for it?....How the tables have turned now?

What goes around comes around...

Urdu Speaking community and Karachi are being exploited due to two reasons:-

1. No culture of guns / suicide bomb blasts
2. Not having a proper voice politically anymore (Though Mustafa Kamal is trying)

We are tired of being given useless posts like of President or of Governorship - ABSOLUTE worthless posts with no authority...

We WANT OUR FAIR SHARE IN POWER STRUCTURE...

PUNJBAIS, SINDHIS AND PASHTUNS HAVE PLAYED ENOUGH WITH PAKISTAN - everyone can see the result where Pakistan is standing today.

It is time for Pakistan to gracefully accept her faithful sons and daughters and drop the sheer discriminatory behaviour.

Arrival of Urdu Speakers will end the shadow of "Manhoosiyat" which is been hovering over head of Pakistan continuously for decades.

We have done enough clapping being the side shows...NOT ANYMORE.

Everyone is tried and tested...Now, it's our turn.

We want our fair share in Islamabad, Pindi and in Sindh.

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End the discriminatory behaviour NOW...

Dude did you went out and vote for karachi election?

 

[Goritoes]

Disagree with you. As a Muslim I still believe in Pakistan. We need to fix it.

You believe in Pakistan while living in Canada ?

 

[ThunderCat]

I disagree with you.

Look how united China and Japan are because they speak a single language.

What a jahill you are. China is a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual country.
All ethnicities are free to speak their language by law.

Some regions have Chinese script and local language to respect the minority group.

FYI Japanese is mostly Japanese speaking but they do have minorities who speak other Japanic languages. Get some basic education man.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

What a jahill you are. China is a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual country.
All ethnicities are free to speak their language by law.

Some regions have Chinese script and local language to respect the minority group.

FYI Japanese is mostly Japanese speaking but they do have minorities who speak other Japanic languages. Get some basic education man.

Wrong, you jahil. Mandarin is the language spoken by 99% of Chinese.

 

[ThunderCat]

Wrong, you jahil. Mandarin is the language spoken by 99% of Chinese.

It's the language of the Han Chinese. Cantonese is the language of Hong Kong. All other groups have their language and are free to speak it by law.

Get an education before coming back to this forum and making a fool of yourself.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

And what the point of teaching useless languages like Pushto or Sindhi?

Urdu is the only language acceptable in Pakistan. English is only for education and business.

Who are you to say what is useless and what is not useless?

Pakistan doesn't teach Punjabi or Pashto or even Balochi in schools.

Wrong, you jahil. Mandarin is the language spoken by 99% of Chinese.

No it is spoken by 70% and is used as a lingua franca.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Who are you to say what is useless and what is not useless?

Pakistan doesn't teach Punjabi or Pashto or even Balochi in schools.



No it is spoken by 70% and is used as a lingua franca.

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My source says 80% of China speaks Mandarin. While 95% can read and write Chinese characters.

Yeah but Mandarin is the language of the majority.

Over 80 percent of Chinese population speak Mandarin​

By Zhao E'nuo, Wu Yue (People's Daily) 09:12, October 16, 2020

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Bamboo slips printed with a poem are tied to a tree on a street of Nanjing, East China's Jiangsu Province on April 10, 2019. (People's Daily Online/Wang Luxian)​

At present, about 80.72 percent of China's population speak Mandarin, and more than 95 percent of the literate population can use standardized Chinese characters.
The illiterate population accounted for over 80 percent when the People's Republic of China (PRC) was just founded, but now the proportion has been reduced to less than 4 percent. The language barriers hindering the communication among Chinese ethnic groups have almost been removed.
Since the founding of the PRC, the country has greatly advanced its popularization of standard Chinese language, which tremendously promoted the construction of national economy, as well as the development of education, science and culture. It played an irreplaceable role in upholding national unity and ethnic solidarity, improving the well-rounded development of the people, and enhancing the moral and ethical standards of the society.
To vigorously promote and popularize the standard spoken and written Chinese language is the core task of the language affairs in the new era. In recent years, China has made further efforts to promote Mandarin in rural areas, remote areas and ethnic-minority areas. The country enhanced bi-lingual education and training in ethnic-minority areas and rolled diversified measures to popularize Mandarin. These efforts yielded rich results, and have greatly improved the popularity of standard spoken and written Chinese language in ethnic minority areas.
"Mandarin is a 'road' for me, on which I can communicate with more people and thus improve my livelihood," said Yu Wulin, a farmer from Fugong county, Nujiang Lisu autonomous prefecture in Southwest China's Yunnan Province. "Using Mandarin helps me better understand the outside world, achieve better development and enjoy a better life," said Sonam Rinchen, an education worker from Gegye county, Ngari prefecture, Southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region.
At present, the popularization of Mandarin is gaining speed in areas of extreme poverty, resulting in a constantly reducing number of impoverished residents unable to speak Mandarin, especially among the young laborers. Besides, the impoverished residents now have better communication capabilities in Mandarin, and stronger willingness to work or start businesses.
To inherit and promote the excellent language culture of the Chinese nation is a new measure of the language affairs in the new era, which is demonstrated by a series of data and projects in recent years.
The country launched a national Chinese classics recitation project, held Chinese classics contest, and distributed Chinese classics to grassroots units. The country gathered nearly 400 episodes of video resources about Chinese classics totaling 12,000 minutes, and organized online and in-person training sessions for over 10,000 teachers for recitation Chinese classics.
Language and cultural TV shows such as the Chinese Poetry Conference have been watched by over 3 billion times. In addition, China has initiated a protection program for Chinese language resources that collected and sorted Chinese dialects and minority languages in about 1,700 regions across the country.
China also built the world's largest language source base that gathers 123 languages and over 10 million pieces of data about Chinese dialects. It launched a project to spread key concepts in Chinese thought and culture worldwide, and started studies on Chinese oracle bone inscriptions. As a result, the Chinese oracle bone inscriptions have been included on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register. Last year, the country commemorated the 120th anniversary of the discovery of oracle bone inscriptions with a series of high-profile events.
Meanwhile, China is continuously enhancing language and cultural communication and cooperation. The Putonghua (Mandarin) Proficiency Test, after being implemented for over 20 years, has been participated by more than 120,000 people, training more than 1,000 Mandarin teachers for Hong Kong and Macao. China and its Taiwan province have launched cooperation to compile Chinese reference books since 2010. So far, nearly 10 dictionaries have been published, and a website about Chinese language has been launched.
In 2014, Suzhou Consensus was reached at the International Conference on Language. Four years later, the International Conference "Role of linguistic diversity in building a global community with shared future: protection, access and promotion of language resources" kicked off, during which the "Yuelu Proclamation" was adopted.
As of the end of 2019, over 60 countries have incorporated Chinese language in their national education system, and more than 80,000 schools have been offering Chinese language courses for over 25 million students. There are around 110 million people studying and using Chinese language outside China.

Over 80 percent of Chinese population speak Mandarin - People's Daily Online

At present, about 80.72 percent of China's population speak Mandarin, and more than 95 percent of

en.people.cn

Who are you to say what is useless and what is not useless?

Pakistan doesn't teach Punjabi or Pashto or even Balochi in schools.



No it is spoken by 70% and is used as a lingua franca.

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what percentage of Mandarin is spoken in China - Пошук Google

Bro, it is 80% not 70% as you previously claimed.

Who are you to say what is useless and what is not useless?

Pakistan doesn't teach Punjabi or Pashto or even Balochi in schools.



No it is spoken by 70% and is used as a lingua franca.

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And the Chinese is promoting Mandarin as the national language of China.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

My source says 80% of China speaks Mandarin. While 95% can read and write Chinese characters.

Yeah but Mandarin is the language of the majority.

Over 80 percent of Chinese population speak Mandarin​

By Zhao E'nuo, Wu Yue (People's Daily) 09:12, October 16, 2020

​

​

Bamboo slips printed with a poem are tied to a tree on a street of Nanjing, East China's Jiangsu Province on April 10, 2019. (People's Daily Online/Wang Luxian)​

At present, about 80.72 percent of China's population speak Mandarin, and more than 95 percent of the literate population can use standardized Chinese characters.
The illiterate population accounted for over 80 percent when the People's Republic of China (PRC) was just founded, but now the proportion has been reduced to less than 4 percent. The language barriers hindering the communication among Chinese ethnic groups have almost been removed.
Since the founding of the PRC, the country has greatly advanced its popularization of standard Chinese language, which tremendously promoted the construction of national economy, as well as the development of education, science and culture. It played an irreplaceable role in upholding national unity and ethnic solidarity, improving the well-rounded development of the people, and enhancing the moral and ethical standards of the society.
To vigorously promote and popularize the standard spoken and written Chinese language is the core task of the language affairs in the new era. In recent years, China has made further efforts to promote Mandarin in rural areas, remote areas and ethnic-minority areas. The country enhanced bi-lingual education and training in ethnic-minority areas and rolled diversified measures to popularize Mandarin. These efforts yielded rich results, and have greatly improved the popularity of standard spoken and written Chinese language in ethnic minority areas.
"Mandarin is a 'road' for me, on which I can communicate with more people and thus improve my livelihood," said Yu Wulin, a farmer from Fugong county, Nujiang Lisu autonomous prefecture in Southwest China's Yunnan Province. "Using Mandarin helps me better understand the outside world, achieve better development and enjoy a better life," said Sonam Rinchen, an education worker from Gegye county, Ngari prefecture, Southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region.
At present, the popularization of Mandarin is gaining speed in areas of extreme poverty, resulting in a constantly reducing number of impoverished residents unable to speak Mandarin, especially among the young laborers. Besides, the impoverished residents now have better communication capabilities in Mandarin, and stronger willingness to work or start businesses.
To inherit and promote the excellent language culture of the Chinese nation is a new measure of the language affairs in the new era, which is demonstrated by a series of data and projects in recent years.
The country launched a national Chinese classics recitation project, held Chinese classics contest, and distributed Chinese classics to grassroots units. The country gathered nearly 400 episodes of video resources about Chinese classics totaling 12,000 minutes, and organized online and in-person training sessions for over 10,000 teachers for recitation Chinese classics.
Language and cultural TV shows such as the Chinese Poetry Conference have been watched by over 3 billion times. In addition, China has initiated a protection program for Chinese language resources that collected and sorted Chinese dialects and minority languages in about 1,700 regions across the country.
China also built the world's largest language source base that gathers 123 languages and over 10 million pieces of data about Chinese dialects. It launched a project to spread key concepts in Chinese thought and culture worldwide, and started studies on Chinese oracle bone inscriptions. As a result, the Chinese oracle bone inscriptions have been included on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register. Last year, the country commemorated the 120th anniversary of the discovery of oracle bone inscriptions with a series of high-profile events.
Meanwhile, China is continuously enhancing language and cultural communication and cooperation. The Putonghua (Mandarin) Proficiency Test, after being implemented for over 20 years, has been participated by more than 120,000 people, training more than 1,000 Mandarin teachers for Hong Kong and Macao. China and its Taiwan province have launched cooperation to compile Chinese reference books since 2010. So far, nearly 10 dictionaries have been published, and a website about Chinese language has been launched.
In 2014, Suzhou Consensus was reached at the International Conference on Language. Four years later, the International Conference "Role of linguistic diversity in building a global community with shared future: protection, access and promotion of language resources" kicked off, during which the "Yuelu Proclamation" was adopted.
As of the end of 2019, over 60 countries have incorporated Chinese language in their national education system, and more than 80,000 schools have been offering Chinese language courses for over 25 million students. There are around 110 million people studying and using Chinese language outside China.

Over 80 percent of Chinese population speak Mandarin - People's Daily Online

At present, about 80.72 percent of China's population speak Mandarin, and more than 95 percent of

en.people.cn

There's other languages too in China, around 16% speak Cantonese, but I don't see Chinese people say Cantonese shouldn't be spoken in China.

Why do you want to erase other languages while we all speak and communicate with each other pretty fine?

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

There's other languages too in China, around 16% speak Cantonese, but I don't see Chinese people say Cantonese shouldn't be spoken in China.

Why do you want to erase other languages while we all speak and communicate with each other pretty fine?

Speaking a single language in a nation unifies the country.

There's other languages too in China, around 16% speak Cantonese, but I don't see Chinese people say Cantonese shouldn't be spoken in China.

Why do you want to erase other languages while we all speak and communicate with each other pretty fine?

Clearly you don't know political science very well do you?

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Speaking a single language in a nation unifies the country.

We already communicate with each other easily via Urdu.

Clearly you don't know political science very well do you?

So China is wrong for not trying to erase Cantonese?

I don’t hear any policy of there’s that does that.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

We already communicate with each other easily via Urdu.



So China is wrong for not trying to erase Cantonese?

I don’t hear any policy of there’s that does that.

China is popularizing Mandarin, didn't you know that?

 

[ThunderCat]

China is popularizing Mandarin, didn't you know that?

They've already popularized it by allowing everyone to speak their languages as well. Now can you please honor your ban and leave this forum?

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

They've already popularized it by allowing everyone to speak their languages as well. Now can you please honor your ban and leave this forum?

my friend, you can leave this forum. Who is stopping you?