Upcoming power gap in pakistani politics

[python-000]

Once again ppp starts ghunda gardi in Karachi by the name of covid drama before RAMZAN MUBARAK & using police as a tool for supresing the people of the city & major targeted areas ( sunni & urdu speaking ) what game iss ppp mafia playing in this City & whole Sindh province dose some one care or ( ya kon sa covid-19 ha jo RAMZAN sa pahla ata ho or MOHARAM sa pahla khatam ho jata ha) ppp Karachi ma firqawarana fasadat karwa ka pura Mulk ma pasadat karwana chah rhi ha...

 

[Valiant]

Our politicians do not learn from their past mistakes. PML (Q) is the best example for those who have interest in politics. From ruling party in 2003 to eliminated in 2008 because they were created by the military. PTI might end up the same fate as most of its members are electables forced to join PTI.

These electables are already looking for other options available. Whether the option is another creation by military or patch up with PPP or PML (N) remains to be seen.

I agree about executables but PML-Q was strictly a Punjab based party and lacked leadership. Have you heard Chaudhry brothers speak? They mumble as if they've been mute for decades.

Khan alone is enough of a brand to garner immense following and that can translate to a strong showing, nationally.

 

[jupiter2007]

A hidden alliance and power sharing between main majority = [PTI + MQM + PML(Q) + Baloch National Parties] and friendly opposition = [PPP + Jammat-e-Islami] .

I think, as per security establishment PML N should be rest to peace forever first, later PPP can be dealt with.

Both Nawaz and Showbaz got the deal from establishment. Nawaz and Maryam to rest and Showbaz and Hamza to take over PMLN.
PPP got dheel, court cases close and play soft opposition on the expensive of Karachi.

The ways things stand now, PML-N will sweep Punjab except maybe the Seraiki belt.

If Shabaz Sharif gets out on bail, that means things have been sorted out.

All in all, say goodbye to PTI if it doesn't return to power in 2023.

Establishment does not have any Choice but PTI. They are too scared to bring MarshalLaw.

Let’s see if Establishment is going to give Mustafa Kamal a seat from Karachi.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Mariyam and Fazlu will be weaker in 23 as for PPP they will get Sindh again
23 will see IK return with a bigger majority

do not underestimate the stupidity of paakis or the weak willpower of the 'big bad establishment'

 

[ejaz007]

I agree about executables but PML-Q was strictly a Punjab based party and lacked leadership. Have you heard Chaudhry brothers speak? They mumble as if they've been mute for decades.

Khan alone is enough of a brand to garner immense following and that can translate to a strong showing, nationally.

If Khan alone is enough then why he had to gather other parties garbage into his own party. This alone theory does not work in politics.

Have you ever wondered how many of his real PTI members are now active in politics. How many ministers are from real PTI.

The garbage has taken over PTI and khan is helpless because they all came via backdoor channels and khan has no control over them.

This alone factor does not work in politics.

 

[mingle]

If Khan alone is enough then why he had to gather other parties garbage into his own party. This alone theory does not work in politics.

Have you ever wondered how many of his real PTI members are now active in politics. How many ministers are from real PTI.

The garbage has taken over PTI and khan is helpless because they all came via backdoor channels and khan has no control over them.

This alone factor does not work in politics.

All political parties goes into transformation so the PTI where U see PTI helpless?? It's Govt that look soft from outside but actually hard underneath.

I agree about executables but PML-Q was strictly a Punjab based party and lacked leadership. Have you heard Chaudhry brothers speak? They mumble as if they've been mute for decades.

Khan alone is enough of a brand to garner immense following and that can translate to a strong showing, nationally.

PMLQ is nothing without PTI may win Cheema seat from south even Amir Cheema from sargodha who is Ch shujat relative ran on PTI ticket. Chs has few few seats at district Gujarat that's all. Party Vote along candidates personal votes does the wonders

 

[mingle]

Both Nawaz and Showbaz got the deal from establishment. Nawaz and Maryam to rest and Showbaz and Hamza to take over PMLN.
PPP got dheel, court cases close and play soft opposition on the expensive of Karachi.


Establishment does not have any Choice but PTI. They are too scared to bring MarshalLaw.

Let’s see if Establishment is going to give Mustafa Kamal a seat from Karachi.

It will be very similar set Up pretty much on same lines at 2023 half of Govt term is over what we see Hopla nowadays is about next setup PPP will keep sindh but PTI will KP and punjab along Q we may see new CM probably Qureshi or Hammad in punjab after 23 fawad is good choice too. N league has remote chance they gone too far will be opposition again Mustafa Kamal is wild card at karachi but if PTI PPP and MQM shakes hand no room for him but again it's waiting game

PMLN guaranteed

Watch as GHQ gives mariam the blessing to leave and prepare for a heroes welcome that nawaz will be granted on his return

Nothing wrong to wish something if NS will return jail is waiting for him he is convict So he will not come then who else?? SS and Hamza? I don't think So nobody believes them

 

[ejaz007]

All political parties goes into transformation so the PTI where U see PTI helpless?? It's Govt that look soft from outside but actually hard underneath.

PMLQ is nothing without PTI may win Cheema seat from south even Amir Cheema from sargodha who is Ch shujat relative ran on PTI ticket. Chs has few few seats at district Gujarat that's all. Party Vote along candidates personal votes does the wonders

You did not get the point.

 

[mingle]

You did not get the point.

Fine what Ur point?

 

[Enigma SIG]

What has brought to possible end on honeymoon period between Imran Khan and Bajwa?

Love of Mariam Nawaz

 

[notorious_eagle]

If Khan alone is enough then why he had to gather other parties garbage into his own party. This alone theory does not work in politics.

Because we don't have a Presidential system and Pakistan's politics is extremely complicated. In KPK, if you look at PTI's MPA' MNA's, they were literally nobody's before they were given PTI's tickets. No names with PTI tickets beat heavy weights from PPP and ANP in 2013 and 2018 elections. Why? Because the politics of KPK is different then that of Punjab, Sindh or Balochistan where you need heavy weights to fight.

Punjab is a different ball game. You need money, influential families who are strong enough to fight an election. While personally they may have a vote bank of 40-50K, that alone is not enough to win the election and they need PTI or PML-N's ticket to get an additional 50K votes to get over the finish line. There are exceptions in Punjab such as Lahore where PML-N has absolute dominance and anyone with PML-N ticket would win, just like in Mianwali anyone holding a PTI ticket would win.

Thus, you need a mix of party votes and personal votes to win in Punjab. In 2013, PTI gave plenty of tickets in Punjab to newcomers. They were able to get 40-50K votes, not the 100K that is required to win the seat.

Have you ever wondered how many of his real PTI members are now active in politics. How many ministers are from real PTI.

If i look at the list, its a mix of old and new faces. PTI is the only party that is giving new faces a change. Murad Saeed, Hammad Azhar, Ali Muhammad Khan, Shehryar Afridi, Qasim Khan Suri, Furrukh Habib, Shireen Mazari, Asad Umar etc are all new faces.

Look at the entire cabinet and MPA/MNA list in KPK, 80% are new faces.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Fine what Ur point?

His point is that theres garbage in PTI because the public WANTS garbage in power. They will vote for garbage every time (electable culture). With a cycle like this there will never ever be true change or betterment in politics.

 

[mingle]

His point is that theres garbage in PTI because the public WANTS garbage in power. They will vote for garbage every time (electable culture). With a cycle like this there will never ever be true change or betterment in politics.

This culture won't go away anytime Soon So we have to live with it

 

[gangsta_rap]

This culture won't go away anytime Soon So we have to live with it

if the culture won't change or if there is no way to go around it then there is no chance for change. people will keep voting for garbage and the end result will be garbage mindset in the govt.

 

[mingle]

if the culture won't change or if there is no way to go around it then there is no chance for change. people will keep voting for garbage and the end result will be garbage mindset in the govt.

Culture took yrs to develop will take yrs to go away not gonna change anytime soon especially current system runs in Pakistan