'Unprovoked' mortar fire by Iran's forces kills one in Balochistan's Panjgoor

[war&peace]

More like the scientists have been doing horrific experiments on those eggs to produce the most ugliest forms in the universe. No wonder they hate Pakistan so much. Any idea what those creatures are called?

Yeah they named it "bhattachriya" lolzzzz

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yeah they named it "bhattachriya" lolzzzz

Homo ugliocus bhattachriya icus

Homo ugliocus bhattachriya icus

If we looked like that than we too would end up hating Pakistan.

 

[Tps43]

Yeah in that you are right about KSA's role in Pak.
But Iran has also been doing quite a lot negative things including but not limited to sponsoring certain sectarian organisation similar to KSA. An a lot of terrorists hide in Iran like Uzair Baloch and he was even awarded the citizenship.

Getting citizen ship on iran is one of most difficult task . Iranian give passport only to those people who provide a written statement that they will return to iran along that they give millions of rs as a gruntey to retun iran.

 

[war&peace]

Getting citizen ship on iran is one of most difficult task . Iranian give passport only to those people who provide a written statement that they will return to iran along that they give millions of rs as a gruntey to retun iran.

that i don't know but what i know for a fact is that he was granted the citizenship of Iran..for what services a murderer will be given the citizenship is not very difficult to figure out.

 

[Tps43]

that i don't know but what i know for a fact is that he was granted the citizenship of Iran..for what services a murderer will be given the citizenship is not very difficult to figure out.

That is what I know with accuracy

 

[padamchen]

Never. As a Punjabi I take great offence to your statement. Nobody knows the nature of the Indians better than us Punjabis. They can never be your 'friends'.

I respect a man who says it like it is. Peaceniks sicken me.

 

[I.R.A]

Purely on proven track record, my money is on Iran in case of a war. Pakistan has never won a war. Iran on the other hand won a ten year war against Saddam and a very powerful Iraqi army. As long as you guys do not go nuclear, Pakistan cannot bring that card to the table. And we know where the Russians would weigh in. And Pakistan no longer has the American counterweight. You should feel justly bullish about this.

I can understand the love connection, shared blood lines ........... possibly a common desire for the lost empire, revival of polluted culture .................. but too bad past can't be undone, lizard eating were triumphant in bringing down the mighty proud arrogant empire and will remain victorious, though hard to digest for a Persian but it is what it is.

 

[padamchen]

I can understand the love connection, shared blood lines ........... possibly a common desire for the lost empire, revival of polluted culture .................. but too bad past can't be undone, lizard eating were triumphant in bringing down the mighty proud arrogant empire and will remain victorious, though hard to digest for a Persian but it is what it is.

Just looking at it purely academically bro. On one side you have a nation of 70 odd million, of which about 60% (about 42-45 odd million) come from bloodlines of some of the most fearsome ancient warrior races.

Then you have a nation of 200 million, which is made up of about 140 odd million who come from bloodlines which have consistently been defated militarily by every alien invading warrior race which then left part of its generic traces behind.

The remaining 60 odd million come essentially from the same stock as those you are currently fighting as a nation state. Namely the Afghans and the Iranians. So there I believe there would be a decent fight.

Just my humble opinion as an interested bystander.

 

[I.R.A]

Just looking at it purely academically bro. On one side you have a nation of 70 odd million, of which about 60% (about 42-45 odd million) come from bloodlines of some of the most fearsome ancient warrior races.

Then you have a nation of 200 million, which is made up of about 140 odd million who come from bloodlines which have consistently been defated militarily by every alien invading warrior race which then left part of its generic traces behind.

The remaining 60 odd million come essentially from the same stock as those you are currently fighting as a nation state. Namely the Afghans and the Iranians. So there I believe there would be a decent fight.

Just my humble opinion as an interested bystander.

Bai what makes you believe the bloodlines are essentially the same as of those of defeated empire warriors? The persian princess got married to the man .... most revered in current Iran. It is not the same thing now. However, I would agree that they had the wits to create a parallel religion to overcome their urge of we are different, they cannot occupy us, they couldn't conquer us.

Second what makes you believe that past citizens of your adapted home had any chance standing against the mighty force that deflated persian empire balloon in past? It is not the question of blood lines any more, it is not what they were, it is what they are now.

Third looking at current situation it is enough to prove who is afraid of whom. A mighty country 7 times bigger in size needs to ally and rely on a country notorious for running proxies ...... all that to counter a small country that they thought (once) they could over run any time. If this small region can keep that mighty big region unsettled and at bay ...... then polluted, false pride worshiping, the ones still living in past don't stand a chance, (all this if there ever arises a need to prove who is the baap of this region). They are not playing with the big guys, its us who get blamed to have played double games with the big guys, any news on given day that we are siding with their opponents would shake them deep down, we have witnessed that, though somehow we are not blackmailing them for it.

 

[padamchen]

Bai what makes you believe the bloodlines are essentially the same as of those of defeated empire warriors? The persian princess got married to the man .... most revered in current Iran. It is not the same thing now. However, I would agree that they had the wits to create a parallel religion to overcome their urge of we are different, they cannot occupy us, they couldn't conquer us.

Second what makes you believe that past citizens of your adapted home had any chance standing against the mighty force that deflated persian empire balloon in past? It is not the question of blood lines any more, it is not what they were, it is what they are now.

Third looking at current situation it is enough to prove who is afraid of whom. A mighty country 7 times bigger in size needs to ally and rely on a country notorious for running proxies ...... all that to counter a small country that they thought (once) they could over run any time. If this small region can keep that mighty big region unsettled and at bay ...... then polluted, false pride worshiping, the ones still living in past don't stand a chance, (all this if there ever arises a need to prove who is the baap of this region). They are not playing with the big guys, its us who get blamed to have played double games with the big guys, any news on given day that we are siding with their opponents would shake them deep down, we have witnessed that, though somehow we are not blackmailing them for it.

I do agree with you on the bolded part. To an extent. But honestly, no trolling, in a conventional war, they would run you ragged. Turkey does not mess with them. And Turkey is NATO. This is one Shia country surrounded on all 4 sides by not only hostile Sunni forces, but American proxies and pressures (barely concealed), and then of course the Jews (who are extremely ungrateful, if they remember their history). Pakistan has definitely been part of the great game, but never as a driver. You have been trying to get entry and acceptance into the Middle East, but no one there thinks of you any different than essentially "Hindu/stani" Muslim converts. Probably (admittedly) one step above Indian Muslims. Which essentially is more a function of their ancestral castes and obvious difference in complexion, features and looks for the most part. But both are held in equal healthy disdain when it comes to their fighting prowess, as is very evident by how they are treated by the cross cultural cross national/continental cross racial ISIS forces when poor Indian and Pakistani boys go there and volunteer to fight. And are made to peel potatoes and cook food instead. Iran on the other hand is not only holding off the big Arab boys with the big guns, but is actually influencing affairs in the Middle East on multiple fronts, and winning. Admittedly with Russian support. But then, the others have open American support as well. And sheer numbers. And territory and geography. So you can understand why I as an Indian do have more than healthy admiration for these guys. I do not like some things about them of course, as you might well imagine. But you have to give it to them for the size of their big brass ones. Compare Iran and North Korea. And see the difference in results in two different races and peoples cripppled by the same sanctions. For a similar period of time.

 

[I.R.A]

I do agree with you on the bolded part. To an extent. But honestly, no trolling, in a conventional war, they would run you ragged. Turkey does not mess with them. And Turkey is NATO. This is one Shia country surrounded on all 4 sides by not only hostile Sunni forces, but American proxies and pressures (barely concealed), and then of course the Jews (who are extremely ungrateful, if they remember their history). Pakistan has definitely been part of the great game, but never as a driver. You have been trying to get entry and acceptance into the Middle East, but no one there thinks of you any different than essentially "Hindu/stani" Muslim converts. Probably (admittedly) one step above Indian Muslims. Which essentially is more a function of their ancestral castes and obvious difference in complexion, features and looks for the most part. But both are held in equal healthy disdain when it comes to their fighting prowess, as is very evident by how they are treated by the cross cultural cross national/continental cross racial ISIS forces when poor Indian and Pakistani boys go there and volunteer to fight. And are made to peel potatoes and cook food instead. Iran on the other hand is not only holding off the big Arab boys with the big guns, but is actually influencing affairs in the Middle East on multiple fronts, and winning. Admittedly with Russian support. But then, the others have open American support as well. And sheer numbers. And territory and geography. So you can understand why I as an Indian do have more than healthy admiration for these guys. I do not like some things about them of course, as you might well imagine. But you have to give it to them for the size of their big brass ones. Compare Iran and North Korea. And see the difference in results in two different races and peoples cripppled by the same sanctions. For a similar period of time.

I agree to their performing well under sanctions but on many other points I would disagree. Namely

Pakistan hasn't been hostile to them.

Today's Saudis are not a fighting force. They are not what their forefathers were

Pakistan siding with any side does matter a lot. Both of them know this.

ISIS in Afghanistan are former TTP.

It's painted as Sunni Shia fight .......... whereas it is not that simple, otherwise they won't be hosting Afghan Taliban. Its the same old fight in a newer version.

 

[NomanAli89]

Pakistan should move artillery and regular troops at Iranian border...Iranians are pretty messed up right now...They can't afford to open another front against Pakistan...

Pakistan and Turkiye should cooperate with each other against Iran..

Not a chance we are behaving like a sub state of Zionist regime of Iran,

I just lost the link to a clip which I posted here long ago of a former Pakistani ambassador to Iran "Babar" something and he told media that Pakistan has established 100 checkpoints at Iranian border while Iran only have 40 yet she always blame Pakistan for poor border control He also said that Sistanis consider themselves Pakistanis, even they dress like Pakistanis

 

[padamchen]

I agree to their performing well under sanctions but on many other points I would disagree. Namely

Pakistan hasn't been hostile to them.

Today's Saudis are not a fighting force. They are not what their forefathers were

Pakistan siding with any side does matter a lot. Both of them know this.

ISIS in Afghanistan are former TTP.

It's painted as Sunni Shia fight .......... whereas it is not that simple, otherwise they won't be hosting Afghan Taliban. Its the same old fight in a newer version.

Bro can I be very honest with you? I always am, so its a bit of a rhetorical question.

One side of me, a major part of course, as an Indian, is happy that Pakistan is being attacked by Muslim countries, Shia and Sunni alike, and save for Turkey (itself descending into a sectarian fundamentalist hellhole), none of the other major Muslim nations really like or support you.

They use you. Manipulate you. And take you for granted. Plain and simple. They recognize your size. Your obvious military capabilities. But they do not RESPECT those. They see those as pure opportunities for their own games. Games which are played way above your heads bu the big boys of the Muslim world.

Now the other part of me, a smaller part, but a part I usually do not admit to, openly on forums at least, is the racial part.

You may agree to it or may dismiss it outright, but it PAINS me to see Pakistan being treated like this. Because I recognize very strong RACIAL overtones to this blatant lack of respect. And it outrages me, because then automatically paasa palat jata ha, and I then subconsciously come over to your side and I am infuriated. By Pashtuns who look down on you. By Iranians who look down on you. By ALL Arabs who look down on you, and especially the Saudis.

I recognize that they look down on us Indians racially even worse. But that bit amuses me. Coz their racial dislike is tinged strongly with the recognition of our size and wealth and power and the fact that we can whip their backsides any time they choose to ask for a fight. That grudging fear is more than sufficient.

I WANT you guys to earn that for yourselves. To TAKE that as what is rightfully yours. I do not understand why a country of 200 million, a nuclear power, a powerful army, and a huge educated middle class, should be subservient to the whims and fancies of primitive Arabs and psychotic Mullas? Why do you give them that importance, that upper hand? Why are you guys still not developed that sense of pride and nationhood and see yourselves as second class Muslims to the so called better/older/purer Muslims?

Do you get where I am coming from as an Indian more than a non-Muslim? Whatever our origins, we two are Indians and Pakistanis. Dare anyone look down on us.

 

[Tamilnadu]

why is every border with Pakistan has these incident and why every country with a border with Pakistan start unprovoked firing ..... Start looking inside guys ,there must be some problem which you guys dont want to see.

 

[I.R.A]

Bro can I be very honest with you? I always am, so its a bit of a rhetorical question.

One side of me, a major part of course, as an Indian, is happy that Pakistan is being attacked by Muslim countries, Shia and Sunni alike, and save for Turkey (itself descending into a sectarian fundamentalist hellhole), none of the other major Muslim nations really like or support you.

They use you. Manipulate you. And take you for granted. Plain and simple. They recognize your size. Your obvious military capabilities. But they do not RESPECT those. They see those as pure opportunities for their own games. Games which are played way above your heads bu the big boys of the Muslim world.

Now the other part of me, a smaller part, but a part I usually do not admit to, openly on forums at least, is the racial part.

You may agree to it or may dismiss it outright, but it PAINS me to see Pakistan being treated like this. Because I recognize very strong RACIAL overtones to this blatant lack of respect. And it outrages me, because then automatically paasa palat jata ha, and I then subconsciously come over to your side and I am infuriated. By Pashtuns who look down on you. By Iranians who look down on you. By ALL Arabs who look down on you, and especially the Saudis.

I recognize that they look down on us Indians racially even worse. But that bit amuses me. Coz their racial dislike is tinged strongly with the recognition of our size and wealth and power and the fact that we can whip their backsides any time they choose to ask for a fight. That grudging fear is more than sufficient.

I WANT you guys to earn that for yourselves. To TAKE that as what is rightfully yours. I do not understand why a country of 200 million, a nuclear power, a powerful army, and a huge educated middle class, should be subservient to the whims and fancies of primitive Arabs and psychotic Mullas? Why do you give them that importance, that upper hand? Why are you guys still not developed that sense of pride and nationhood and see yourselves as second class Muslims to the so called better/older/purer Muslims?

Do you get where I am coming from as an Indian more than a non-Muslim? Whatever our origins, we two are Indians and Pakistanis. Dare anyone look down on us.

I respect your opinion and feeling and all that, but you are mistaken if you think that personal interests of leaders of Pakistan are weakness of ordinary Pakistani ......... No none of them is a better Muslim than us Pakistanis, nor Iranians not Saudis, unless they exceed us in good deeds. Just because they are rich or they are that doesn't warrant that we are second class Muslims. It is difficult for me to describe this because of that gap of understanding the situation as a Muslim and looking at it as a non Muslim. None of them has achieved what we have achieved despite all that corrupt leaders and regimes, its just matter of time and day when Pakistan would be run by people who deserve to rule it and not by self serving thugs.