Universe

[ito]

There is a 50 or more episodes on Universe by History Channel. They are really good. Then there are some documents by PBS too are good.

 

[Donald Trump]

Massive Alien Structure Surrounding A Distant Star Found?

 

[Mythal]

What's wrong with it if your religion fit scientifically would be kind to share we want to learn without arguing.


In Arabic the real world is Sultan سلطان which means power.

And this a quranic term Sultan = Power.

Arguments about string theory and Jinns in the same thread is disgraceful. Science follows rules, has a procedure, while religion is all about rhetorics and interpreting things in ways to fit any narrative.

 

[guyhandz]

The theory of Multiverse is just awesome!

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

its a very good thread.. i was planning to start one to clear some questions...
ok lets ask them here..

>> Relativity theory of Einstein and Quran seems same. (Thats what i think)
According to Special Theory of Relativity– if a body travels with the velocity of light then Time Dilation and Relativity of Simultaneity occurs.
Science has proved and formulated this theory recently in the last century, but We the muslims were told about it long ago. Shab-e-Mairaj is same where only little time passed on earth while 27years were spent by Rasool Allah pbuh.

Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was riding on the Buraq, and the speed (velocity) of the Buraq was similar or more than the speed (velocity) of light. now we can easily understand that Time Dilation occurred during the Event of Miraj. (If any1 has any problem understanding this concept, watch the movie INTERSTELLAR).

>> The theory of general relativity says that time passes slower near an object more massive than Earth (clocks run slower in stronger gravitational fields). So according to general relativity, time should pass in Paradise/Hell much slower than on Earth. It is stated in the Quran that 1 day in Paradise/Hell measures a 1000 years on Earth:

[Quran 22.47] They challenge you to bring forth that torture [in Hell] and Allah will not break His promise; a day of your Lord [Paradise/Hell promise] is like a thousand years of what you count.

>>[Surah 21, Ayah 33] "It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon: All (celestial bodies) swim/float along, each in its rounded course (orbit)."

It says float, in rounded orbits.. 2 things here, which are proved by science now, and were told to us 1400 years ago by the above ayah.
First, Planets, sun, moon, all move in circular orbits. Moon around the planets, Planets around the stars, and stars around the Black holes of their recpective galaxy.
2nd, They float. Thats means there is something in which these planets float in their respective circular orbits. Well we now know what it is. It is the spacetime fabric.

so the above Ayah of Quran reveals 2 very important science facts that we have just recently starting to uncover. Both proved by science now.

I'll posting more science facts that were given in Quran long ago from time to tim in this thread..

Earth is not a unique planet but rather God created several planets like Earth throughout the universe:
Scientist are searching for them.

(Quran 65.12) Allah is the one who created seven heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them (heavens and earths) so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.


In Islam, Earth is not a unique planet. Other planets like Earth do exist throughout the universe. Actually the Quran says that other planets also have land animals:

(Quran 42.29) And from His signs He created the heavens and the Earth; and the land animals that He scattered in BOTH of them (heavens and Earth); And He is capable of gathering them (in one place) if He wishes.

Science says that the universe was created in a Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago, is still expanding today, and billions of years from now it might collapse by its own gravity with a Big Crunch or continue expanding forever or end in a Big Rip.

The Quran says that on the first day of creation, God made the heavens and Earth meshed together, tight and compact (Big Bang), continues to expand it into the universe we know today and at the last day God will recompress it into its original state (Big Crunch).

About the first day (Big Bang), Allah says:


[Quran 21.30] Do not those who disbelieve see that the heavens and the Earth were meshed together then We ripped them apart? And then We made of water everything living? Would they still not believe?

I appreciate your view but this is not the right thread for such debate .
You can debate and share your views here ;
Science through eyes of Religion

 

[Providence]

@Kashmiri Pandit @mithyaa @Donald Trump @Goenitz

Guys, this youtube channel is a fucking goldmine.

PBS Space Time - YouTube

All the videos (and there are tonnes of them) are short 12-14 minute videos but content heavy !

What's wrong with it if your religion fit scientifically would be kind to share we want to learn without arguing.


In Arabic the real world is Sultan سلطان which means power.

And this a quranic term Sultan = Power.

Hey one last time I would say, kindly stop posting religious extrapolations here. This thread is not about messiahs and grand predictions but experimentally or empirically validated peer reviewed theories and their implications.

The day quran let's itself be opened to peer -review we can admit it as a source. Till then, good bye !

 

[Mythal]

@Kashmiri Pandit @mithyaa @Donald Trump @Goenitz

Guys, this youtube channel is a fucking goldmine.

PBS Space Time - YouTube

All the videos (and there are tonnes of them) are short 12-14 minute videos but content heavy !



Hey one last time I would say, kindly stop posting religious extrapolations here. This thread is not about messiahs and grand predictions but experimentally or empirically validated peer reviewed theories and their implications.

The day quran let's itself be opened to peer -review we can admit it as a source. Till then, good bye !

Other good channels on youtube is minutephysics, which has very simplified, short videos about various science related subjects and VSauce, whose videos are as philosophical as scientific.
The best resource for anyone interested in space is Neil DeGrasse Tyson, his Cosmos series was good, but his talks are full of knowledge and that too in a very simplified entertaining way. His radio podcast, StarTalk is also great to listen to, specially when Bill Nye in on it.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Arguments about string theory and Jinns in the same thread is disgraceful. Science follows rules, has a procedure, while religion is all about rhetorics and interpreting things in ways to fit any narrative.

Sorry that's not necessary for a reason which is in religions there are some hints in the textbooks that told in a way suit the level of education and understanding of the people oh those ages.

like imagine the Quran mention the black hole the same way the people mention it these days do you think the arab those days will take it seriously or they will make fun of it.

But the Quran mention it in a different way like this ( I swear by the hiding stars who run their course and clean ) the real Arabic words give different meaning that I couldn't find the exact english word to describe alas/

Except the word lurking for the word خنس which means hide with silence unseen but it clean its way its path or let say scavenging! so what body in the sky do that?.

We have objects of the sky do this big planets like Jupiter which acts as a big vacuum machine that pull harmful objects and keep the inner planets save from mass destruction.

and also the black holes that feed on every thing pass by.

@Kashmiri Pandit @mithyaa @Donald Trump @Goenitz

Guys, this youtube channel is a fucking goldmine.

PBS Space Time - YouTube

All the videos (and there are tonnes of them) are short 12-14 minute videos but content heavy !



extrapolations!

This is a tool scientists use in their experiments. That's why they say use your brain they mean extrapolate or induce from what you see.

 

[Slav Defence]

Let us set thread rules:

1-You can post some hints from your religious texts.
2-You can discuss all scientific parameters in here.
3-You are not allowed to make fun of each other's religious texts.
4-You can also posts references of books and scientists who researched and compared religious texts with scientific studies.
5-If you failed in maintaining discipline and trolls get attracted,the thread will be closed.
6-So,before making your post,think 1000 times.


regards

 

[Spectre]

@Slav Defence I hope humour is permissible within confines of good taste?

There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

~Douglas Adams

 

[Providence]

Let us set thread rules:

1-You can post some hints from your religious texts.
2-You can discuss all scientific parameters in here.
3-You are not allowed to make fun of each other's religious texts.
4-You can also posts references of books and scientists who researched and compared religious texts with scientific studies.
5-If you failed in maintaining discipline and trolls get attracted,the thread will be closed.
6-So,before making your post,think 1000 times.


regards

Sir. I would request religious references are omitted from this thread since they are incompatible with concept of peer review which forms the bed rock of any theory.

Text comparing religion vis-a-vi contemporary theories is not an issue but I will not tolerate blatant quotes stating something was claimed in a religious text and the supporting argument being a vague 2 line prose

@Slav Defence

 

[Mythal]

Let us set thread rules:

1-You can post some hints from your religious texts.
2-You can discuss all scientific parameters in here.
3-You are not allowed to make fun of each other's religious texts.
4-You can also posts references of books and scientists who researched and compared religious texts with scientific studies.
5-If you failed in maintaining discipline and trolls get attracted,the thread will be closed.
6-So,before making your post,think 1000 times.


regards

In that case this thread does not deserve any scientific discussion.

 

[Slav Defence]

Sir. I would request religious references are omitted from this thread since they are incompatible with concept of peer review which forms the bed rock of any theory.

Text comparing religion vis-a-vi contemporary theories is not an issue but I will not tolerate blatant quotes stating something was claimed in a religious text and the supporting argument being a vague 2 line prose

@Slav Defence

Let these young minds have some discussion.Listen,they need sometime to realize that they are adopting wrong approach to resolve this entire equation.
Religious verses are not descended from heaven so that a muslim,jew or christian began to seek proves to ''justify them''.
Instead,they simply meant to direct human souls towards some objective to run the operation.Remember,science only works with measurable events,not the immeasurable ones.
Science cannot explain birth of Jesus,science cannot explain phenomenon of Arch angel Gebril or Michele (peace be upon them) or science cannot explain the immense divine authorities given to Prophet David and solomon (Peace be upon them) nor arrival of awaiting messiah of hidden cults,the founder of new world order etc.It is b/c science is limited and is based upon man made protocols and evaluations.
However,few signs were ''hinted'' so that humans could ponder and research and discover something new.If some have matched some divine hints with their researches than it is something which is different.

For example,this book...the amazing Quran has been written by Dr.Gary Miller and covers all the embryological and geological concepts discussed and most importantly the scientific approach:
https://islamicmisconceptions.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-amazing-quran.pdf

Let them share some researches and see what happens.
However,if I saw misbehavior and illiterate action by any community then the poster in question could think of dire consequences.

In that case this thread does not deserve any scientific discussion.

You can leave this thread if you are disgusted,but whole thread cannot work with accordance to your direction.

regards

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Let us set thread rules:

1-You can post some hints from your religious texts.
2-You can discuss all scientific parameters in here.
3-You are not allowed to make fun of each other's religious texts.
4-You can also posts references of books and scientists who researched and compared religious texts with scientific studies.
5-If you failed in maintaining discipline and trolls get attracted,the thread will be closed.
6-So,before making your post,think 1000 times.


regards

I made a separate thread for it .
PLZ , I request u people to have a debate there .

 

[Slav Defence]

I made a separate thread for it .
PLZ , I request u people to have a debate there .

Very well then,OP could send thread reference in here and things will then work accordingly.
regards