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Trump defeat is very, very bad news for Pakistan.

Nope, you just want to appear edgy and it's pathetic. US-Pakistan relationship is going to be the same and didn't change much under Trump. In fact this makes you like a fool:

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U.S. and Indian leaders made more progress today on building what Defense Secretary Dr. Mark T. Esper called "one of the most consequential relationships for the United States in this century."

 
US-Pakistan relationship is going to be the same and didn't change much under Trump. In fact this makes you like a fool:
I will overlook that personal attack but Trump was the best thing for Pakistan. Despite US deep state he haas been responsible for the change in US policy in Afghanistan and now we see US talking with Taliban with Pakistan mediating. With regards to the broader US strategic posture in Asia which takes it's cue from China things will not change with India which will be increasingly brought in the fold. But Trump's policies did help from my POV.

  • In Afghanistan with regards to Taliban.
  • Bringing UAE, other Gulf Arabs together in alliance with Israel. A great accomplishment I might add that will be capped at some point with Saudia also emracing the Zionist state of Israel.
 
Joe Biden would actually benefit Pakistans interest more than Donald Trump. Both toe similar line in their Afghanistan strategy and where Pakistan fits in but Joe Biden adds extra:

- Biden has always favored aid/engagement with Pakistan. Infact it was Biden who authored multiple aid bills to Pakistan.
- Biden realizes Pakistans strategic significance once even telling a whining Karzai to his face that Pakistan is and always will be x100 times more important to the US than Afghanistan.
- Biden would be far more incline in competing for influence in Pakistan against China. This means more aid/loan/CSF/investments in Pakistan to help increase US influence.
- Biden understands Pakistani politics. He is close to and has engaged many Pakistani groups in the US over the last 35 years. He is more familiar with the problems that plague Pakistan then most of our jahil politicians such as NS, Bhutto, etc...
- Biden will speak out more forcefully against Indian human rights abuses in Kashmir. Even tho his vice president nominee is part indian she is South Indian who dont really engage in conflict or biases with Muslims/Pakistan. She is prob the only senator who has strongly condemned India and has threatened sanctions.
- Expect most of the tariffs Trump imposed on Indian goods and limitations on the H1-B visa to remain. It would be political suicide for Biden to reverse this as it would hurt his progressive base.

There are many more that I cant dwelve into right now but Trump was good for Pakistan but Biden is actually great :)
 
Joe Biden would actually benefit Pakistans interest more than Donald Trump. Both toe similar line in their Afghanistan strategy and where Pakistan fits in but Joe Biden adds extra:

- Biden has always favored aid/engagement with Pakistan. Infact it was Biden who authored multiple aid bills to Pakistan.
- Biden realizes Pakistans strategic significance once even telling a whining Karzai to his face that Pakistan is and always will be x100 times more important to the US than Afghanistan.
- Biden would be far more incline in competing for influence in Pakistan against China. This means more aid/loan/CSF/investments in Pakistan to help increase US influence.
- Biden understands Pakistani politics. He is close to and has engaged many Pakistani groups in the US over the last 35 years. He is more familiar with the problems that plague Pakistan then most of our jahil politicians such as NS, Bhutto, etc...
- Biden will speak out more forcefully against Indian human rights abuses in Kashmir. Even tho his vice president nominee is part indian she is South Indian who dont really engage in conflict or biases with Muslims/Pakistan. She is prob the only senator who has strongly condemned India and has threatened sanctions.
- Expect most of the tariffs Trump imposed on Indian goods and limitations on the H1-B visa to remain. It would be political suicide for Biden to reverse this as it would hurt his progressive base.

There are many more that I cant dwelve into right now but Trump was good for Pakistan but Biden is actually great :)
I am looking at USA fro outside but your post brings some interesting points that I was not aware.
 
I will overlook that personal attack but Trump was the best thing for Pakistan. Despite US deep state he haas been responsible for the change in US policy in Afghanistan and now we see US talking with Taliban with Pakistan mediating. With regards to the broader US strategic posture in Asia which takes it's cue from China things will not change with India which will be increasingly brought in the fold. But Trump's policies did help from my POV.

US has been talking with Taliban forever via Qatar, so nothing new here. You couldn't list a single change in US policy under Trump.

Bringing UAE, other Gulf Arabs together in alliance with Israel. A great accomplishment I might add that will be capped at some point with Saudia also emracing the Zionist state of Israel.

You are a pro-Iranian and want Trump to win to give Iran major edge in region. As I've always said Iran is gonna have short lived victories in the ME and after 2024 they gonna be pro-Israel and US. Regardless if Biden wins or not.
 
I have a funny feeling, the American establishment/deep state wants Trump out. Sounds like a lot of rigging going on behind the scene.



There is no rigging, Trump is deeply unpopular due to his failed policies in relation to COVID. I am sure Biden will correct that ill-fated policy, maybe even bring back Fauci and start restricting entry from COVID dominated countries like India, South Africa, and Brazil.

Nope, you just want to appear edgy and it's pathetic. US-Pakistan relationship is going to be the same and didn't change much under Trump. In fact this makes you like a fool:

...
U.S. and Indian leaders made more progress today on building what Defense Secretary Dr. Mark T. Esper called "one of the most consequential relationships for the United States in this century."


Well, Biden is bad for many Muslim countries due to his policies being the Obama policies which we have seen, plus his VP is a Hindu with close ties to India. Many of us thought it was not the case, but she has come out openly now.

Turkey, Iran, KSA, Azerbaycan, and Pakistan will have to re-adjust their policies by taking into account a hostile war-mongering presidency like Obama's was.

As for Muslims within the US, it will ease off some of the pressure we have been facing from Trumpists and allow us some breathing space. In many ways they are worse than Trump himself.

I can also see Biden going all in to support Macron, so we have to factor that in as well.

In sha Allah, some events take place before then like another defeat for india in Kashmir, Azerbaycan taking NK, Taliban taking Kabul, resolution of Libya by Turkey, backpedaling of iranian expansionism, and Turks putting PKK on the run.
- Biden has always favored aid/engagement with Pakistan. Infact it was Biden who authored multiple aid bills to Pakistan.

Blackmail against Pakistan.

- Biden realizes Pakistans strategic significance once even telling a whining Karzai to his face that Pakistan is and always will be x100 times more important to the US than Afghanistan.

This is not their policy, actually it is the opposite.

- Biden would be far more incline in competing for influence in Pakistan against China. This means more aid/loan/CSF/investments in Pakistan to help increase US influence.

More punishments against Pakistan for CPEC, beyond just FATF.

- Biden understands Pakistani politics. He is close to and has engaged many Pakistani groups in the US over the last 35 years. He is more familiar with the problems that plague Pakistan then most of our jahil politicians such as NS, Bhutto, etc...

They will support opposition more.

- Biden will speak out more forcefully against Indian human rights abuses in Kashmir. Even tho his vice president nominee is part indian she is South Indian who dont really engage in conflict or biases with Muslims/Pakistan. She is prob the only senator who has strongly condemned India and has threatened sanctions.

Not happening, India is their islamophobic pet, they will try to help it along.

- Expect most of the tariffs Trump imposed on Indian goods and limitations on the H1-B visa to remain. It would be political suicide for Biden to reverse this as it would hurt his progressive base.

They will be reversed, esp with his Hindu VP.

It is another Obama presidency. Pakistan will be asked to DO MORE. They will try to stall Taliban and co-operate with india against Pakistan.

The real target though will be Turkey. He has already stated his aims to remove Erdogan.
You are a pro-Iranian and want Trump to win to give Iran major edge in region. As I've always said Iran is gonna have short lived victories in the ME and after 2024 they gonna be pro-Israel and US. Regardless if Biden wins or not.

Iran time is over, now it is losing influence and control. Azerbaycan conflict exposed its internal weaknesses.
 
Trump defeat is very, very bad news for Pakistan. Under his Presidency which began by continuing the "blame Pakistan rhetoric" but since matured into a very positive mood. PMIK and Trump hit it off and there has been a palpable softening in US position toward Pakistan which can even be seen on US media.

Bolded part: Absolutely. A macho man like Trump looks at the map and sees a tiny Pakistan shooting down Indian plane in broad-day light has to impress him on a personal level. And he works on personal levels all the time!!

But also a cooling down of tensions with Iran and China won't be bad for Pakistan either under Biden. Plus there are gains to be made about climate change, renewable energy, healthcare in America under Biden.

I don't think either win is too bad for Pakistan. There are gains and losses. But only minor. I am still slightly rooting for Trump and voted for him. But, as I have been repeatedly saying here, a Biden victory won't make me sad either.

In short... Pakistani-Americans have to think for both America and Pakistan!
 
There is no rigging, Trump is deeply unpopular due to his failed policies in relation to COVID. I am sure Biden will correct that ill-fated policy, maybe even bring back Fauci and start restricting entry from COVID dominated countries like India, South Africa, and Brazil.



Well, Biden is bad for many Muslim countries due to his policies being the Obama policies which we have seen, plus his VP is a Hindu with close ties to India. Many of us thought it was not the case, but she has come out openly now.

Turkey, Iran, KSA, Azerbaycan, and Pakistan will have to re-adjust their policies by taking into account a hostile war-mongering presidency like Obama's was.

As for Muslims within the US, it will ease off some of the pressure we have been facing from Trumpists and allow us some breathing space. In many ways they are worse than Trump himself.

I can also see Biden going all in to support Macron, so we have to factor that in as well.

In sha Allah, some events take place before then like another defeat for india in Kashmir, Azerbaycan taking NK, Taliban taking Kabul, resolution of Libya by Turkey, backpedaling of iranian expansionism, and Turks putting PKK on the run.

Let me be honest I don't believe US under any administration has big influence over Muslim world, that's for Muslim world to resolve and Muslim world not gonna better until they undergo spiritual reform. I am looking at that this race in the context of US politics not foreign policy or anything else. Muslim world is gonna get worse before it gets better and US won't have anything to do with that. I have no dog in Azerbaijan-Armenia fight but I can see Turkey gaining influence near Iran if Azerbaijan succeeds. Afghanistan I feel needs resolution and I don't see a promising future for that country. Iran gonna make more short lived gains. Turkey is gonna assert itself more but it will run into more challenges in the future. Arab world is imploding but they will find light at the end of the tunnel.

Anyhow let's get back on topic, most information I'm seeing suggests Biden will win Nevada and PA.
 
I am looking at USA fro outside but your post brings some interesting points that I was not aware.

Another major point would be Bidens policy via Iran/Afghanistan

With Iran Biden would significantly relax sanctions allowing Iran to export its oil/gas products. This would drive oil/gas prices even lower from where they are benefitting Pakistans import.

With Afganistan Biden would prefer a long term engagement rather than leaving the region entirely such as Trump. Remember a complete US pullout would hurt Pakistan the most since the terrorist groups would regroup and target Pakistan first. A US precense in Afghanistan would benefit Pakistan.
 
they gonna be pro-Israel and US
Dunno which world you live in but one of the most satisfying things I have witnesed on PDF is seeing Arab loving Pakistani's get right fcuking when their junior mama UAE openly sucked Israeli genitals and then followed by Bahrain. We saw all those sheiks lining up to say "shalom" to Israeli flight from Tel Aviv on the runaway in Dubai Airport. Mashallah. Next turn is for "senior mamma" Saudia Arabia to make the four square of Israel, Saudia, UAE, USA aliance against the evil Iran.

I will open a bottle of champagne and share it with you when Saudia also takes in a shalom fro m Israel. Long live MBS. I can now look forward and enjoy the slow tilt by Pakistan toward Turkey, Iran. Two great centres of Islamic civillization.
 
The Senate may still be in play, barely. The two Georgia senate seats may end in runoff election on January 5th. With the current senate make up looking like it will end up with 48 Democrats and 50 Republicans, if Biden wins, Kamala will be able to break any tie in the senate as the “President of the senate”. One of the Georgia seats is insanely close the republican has 49.98% of the vote. He need at least 50% of the vote to avoid a runoff.

If it goes to a runoff for those two seats in Georgia, you can bet your bottom dollar the republicans will stop at nothing to hold at least one of those seats. Everyone and their uncle will be harassed from now until the runoff election of January 5th to vote.

If the democrats win these two seats they will have Carte Blanche to pass any stimulus bill they want and run up the debt until the mid-terms.
 
The Senate may still be in play, barely. The two Georgia senate seats may end in runoff election on January 5th. With the current senate make up looking like it will end up with 48 Democrats and 50 Republicans, if Biden wins, Kamala will be able to break any tie in the senate as the “President of the senate”. One of the Georgia seats is insanely close the republican has 49.98% of the vote. He need at least 50% of the vote to avoid a runoff.

If it goes to a runoff for those two seats in Georgia, you can bet your bottom dollar the republicans will stop at nothing to hold at least one of those seats. Everyone and their uncle will be harassed from now until the runoff election of January 5th to vote.

If the democrats win these two seats they will have Carte Blanche to pass any stimulus bill they want and run up the debt until the mid-terms.

If you include the 2 pro-democrat independants plus vice-president then stimulus should be on the way within the next few months... Only question is will you do a piecemeal approach 2 trillion here then another few trillion after 6 months or just go all in with a huge stimulus and 4 years from now have an economy to brag about? Remember what Obama did first thing in 2008... Stimulus, same story this time around except x10.
 

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