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I think yesterday he was both, very tired from all the last minute rallies he packed in a few days and also in shock at the way the numbers were coming in. Today he's up and about and throwing anything on the wall to see if any of it will stick.

Nothing to worry about. Despite fervent wishes and concerns here to the contrary, due process will deliver a robust result. Let there be no doubt.
 
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I think yesterday he was both, very tired from all the last minute rallies he packed in a few days and also in shock at the way the numbers were coming in. Today he's up and about and throwing anything on the wall to see if any of it will stick.


Did you see this in the local news? This is the first I'm hearing about any of this and this was from a tweet from an Egyptian activist in Egypt, also a Trump supporter (most of them are) but curious is any meat to any of this or is it just BS? Local Fox station reporting it?

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This is how Trump and Republicans will try to declare the election invalid.
 
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I think yesterday he was both, very tired from all the last minute rallies he packed in a few days and also in shock at the way the numbers were coming in. Today he's up and about and throwing anything on the wall to see if any of it will stick.


Did you see this in the local news? This is the first I'm hearing about any of this and this was from a tweet from an Egyptian activist in Egypt, also a Trump supporter (most of them are) but curious is any meat to any of this or is it just BS? Local Fox station reporting it?

EmCzQmIXYAAXAK3

It's an old lawsuit from 2019 and they resolved the case in June(it was about registered voters):


Trump supporters spreading it around and falsely claiming it was related to the presidential election.
 
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I don't vote, but I know many Biden supporters. Most Muslims are supporting him.

Basically they see him as the lesser of two evils.

Not going to lie, it feels good to see Trump supporters having mental breakdowns.

@Falcon29 @PakFactor @Hakikat ve Hikmet Thoughts, brothers?


Turkey, Iran, and KSA need to get ready for some hard times.

i can also see US going all in with Macron too, as they would both be liberal states now.
My observations:
  • Neither Trump nor Biden has the intellectual, moral and physical capabilities to be in charge of the USA for the next 4 years. This is the tragedy
  • The Deep State has anyway succeeded in taming Trump, so doesn't make difference from their POV - more of China and less of NATO
  • The USA has herself got divided into Red and Blue. The military exercises make two rival groups - Red and Blue - to seek out the tactics, strategies etc. The USA has a bitter Civil War experience and it caused the maximum destruction in her history
  • The USA is fast becoming just another Great power
  • It's a curse to be a Super Power for you're challenging THE SUPREME POWER
  • When Allah-u Azimushshan wants to punish a nation/country, HE first makes it into an object of ridicule
*I haven't voted too.
 
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Democrats took no risk. This elections is not about Democrats or even Republicans AT ALL!! This is essentially a REFERENDUM on Trump. Yes, 'With Us or Against Us' kind of thingy. These talks of 'Catholics' or 'Italian American' are so... 1960s! United States, despite a stronger religious base than other Western democracies, is far too secular for religion anymore. Heck, if a so-called heretic sect like the Mormons had Romney nominated then anything is possible. Perhaps in 2028 there will be an open transvestite Presidential Nominee. And why not--even the Pope in Rome is accepting homosexuality. BTW, I have zero problem with people's faith or lack of faith or their sexual predilections. Just sayin'...

Coming back to the topic-- it is still not totally over. The fact that Trump's leads changed overnight will not be ignored, early ballots or mail in ballots notwithstanding.

I just hope this is over with soon! Republicans--unless they are very rich-- should not fret too much about a Biden victory. Biden is not a 'socialist'. He ain't going to take away your guns. He ain't going to ban churches. If anything--he will look after the poorer Americans far better.

It is establishment which is teaching Trump a lesson. Instead of completely going with their dictates, he did what he and his followers felt was right for themselves. He was supposed to market Jerusalem as Israel's capital far more vehemently, but he pushed it until after the election. He was supposed to distance from KSA. The Zionists are very upset with him.

Trump may come back in the next election in 4 years, but then he will have been totally subdued by the establishment.

As far as I am concerned, both are crooks and evil. They will both adopt policies which are harmful to Muslims. It is a choice between Firaun and Jalut.
My observations:
  • Neither Trump nor Biden has the intellectual, moral and physical capabilities to be in charge of the USA for the next 4 years. This is the tragedy
  • The Deep State has anyway succeeded in taming Trump, so doesn't make difference from their POV - more of China and less of NATO
  • The USA has herself got divided into Red and Blue. The military exercises make two rival groups - Red and Blue - to sought out the tactics, strategies etc. The USA has a bitter Civil War experience and it caused the maximum destruction in her history
  • The USA is fast becoming just another Great power
  • It's a curse to be a Super Power for you're challenging he SUPREME POWER

It is the beginning of the end for the US, this is no longer a stable country. Partisan politics have become so toxic that another civil war is inevitable. It may not happen soon, but it is in the beginning stages.
 
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Will he be less transactional with India ? as far as trade is concerned ?
India got nothing from trump but many modi supporters are claiming huge loss for India .
Don't know what trump helped India with in the last 4 years, other than increasing the headache for us in every aspect and hugging modi .
Many modi haters are rejoicing , in an anticipation that biden will be anti BJP and their policies .
I remember them rejoicing when macron won defeating the right wing candidate there in france .

Insightful.
Thank you.
 
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Some outlets already gave Biden Arizona and Nevada is releasing their numbers soon. If Biden wins Nevada than he is at 270 for some media outlets and Biden can declare victory at that point.

Biden lead in Nevada now at 12K.
 
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Some outlets already gave Biden Arizona and Nevada is releasing their numbers soon. If Biden wins Nevada than he is at 270 for some media outlets and Biden can declare victory at that point.

It is not possible for Trump to win legitimately, actually the only way he can win is by bringing the case to the SCOTUS, where he now has the majority.

That would mean that democracy has failed in the US.
 
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It is not possible for Trump to win legitimately, actually the only way he can win is by bringing the case to the SCOTUS, where he now has the majority.

That would mean that democracy has failed in the US.

Can the SCOTUS do anything about it , though? If Biden wins Nevada, PA, Georgia and Arizona, I don't think the SCOTUS would want to get involved.
Trump claiming a big legal win in PA.

PA Supreme Court overruled it(if that's what he's talking about):

 
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Pakistan by joining China has lost its relevance in American policy circles. Your expectation of Biden being less antagonistic to China is a pipe dream. American electorate will not accept such behavior no matter his business interests.

Generally I have been appreciative of your posts in this thread but here you are probably wrong. Trump rode a horse of xenophobia and nationalism. Some of his sanctions or tariffs against China have hurt American citizens' interests. You see: When you embrace someone so deeply for so long then slashing a knife is also likely to hurt you. Or as Nietzsche--who pic is my profile pic here said: 'He who fights the Devil should see he doesn't become one. For when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks onto you'.

I have a high degree of confidence that Biden will make rapprochements with China and Iran---and both are good for Pakistan, BTW. Yes, overall the 'tilt' toward India will continue. Because America ALWAYS needs an enemy and if none exists then it's invented from the dirt of planet Mars! But, looking at the VP debate between Harris and Pence, she stood her ground when it came to making things work with China. That is the thinking of the Biden administration despite the whipped up anti-China sentiments in America these days.
 
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NV too slow in reporting. Biden went 12k up then Drop to 11k. 87% reported.
 
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I think Biden will win NV but AZ will go to the Wire and I will be surprise if Biden carry AZ
 
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Yes AZ will come to single digit difference. Fox screwed up and someone will be Fired at Fox.

So here is what I have to say: I had boycott of Fox News for two decades or so. But lately, with my disillusion with the Left, I have watched some Fox News and to my surprise they are a tad better in giving the Other Side a voice than the other MSMs. I'd cancel my paid monthly NY Times sub right now had it not been for travel, environmental, and some other coverage.
 
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