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Millions of White voters are once again showing who they are
Analysis by Brandon Tensley, CNN

Updated 8:14 PM ET, Wed November 4, 2020
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Washington (CNN)Millions of White voters are once again showing who they are and -- spoiler -- it's not really that great for America, but in particular for Black and brown people.
The miasmic uncertainty hanging over the 2020 presidential election, as hundreds of thousands of legal votes in key battleground states continue to be counted, is damning, even if Democrat Joe Biden ekes out a victory.
For one thing, despite four years of President Donald Trump -- that is, of a man who has made White nationalism a central part of his administration and whose abject negligence in the face of a pandemic has contributed to more than 230,000 dead -- millions of voters are turning out for him.
White voters, especially. While early exit polls (which, it's important to underscore, are notoriously mercurial) indicate that Trump may receive more support from voters of color this year than he did in 2016, the more significant story is that his White base seems sturdy.


As the political scientist Melanye Price wrote in October of the Trump campaign's efforts to court Black men, "Even if Black male Republican support increases in 2020, most of the responsibility for a second Trump victory will be attributable to White voters."
Indeed, one thing that this week has clarified is the lengths to which many White Americans are willing to go in order to protect their Whiteness, to centralize it, even after a summer that saw unprecedented support for the Black Lives Matter movement.
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But that's only a piece of why the election is so shameful.
That the contest appears as tight as it does speaks to the relative success of the Republican Party, the minority party, at holding on to power via maneuvering such as disenfranchisement, gerrymandering and voter suppression, which disproportionately affect voters of color, who overwhelmingly back the Democratic Party.
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For instance, one state that had pundits on edge was Florida. Many wondered whether it might go into Biden's column, given the direction of preelection polling. Ultimately, Trump won the state by a wafer-thin margin. His victory, though, was helped by the fact that many people didn't have access to the ballot box.
After 65% of Floridians voted in 2018 to restore voting rights to former felons, the state's "Republican-led legislature and governor then decided to overrule the will of the voters by creating new obstacles for former felons to vote, especially paying fees and fines," Julio Capó Jr. and Melba V. Pearson wrote on Tuesday for The Washington Post, calling the move "a 21st-century version of Jim Crow." "In many ways, it amounts to a poll tax by a new name. Some estimates indicated 1.4 million Floridians would have received their right to vote back. But as a result of the legislature's actions, only about 300,000 of them were eligible to register to vote."
Similarly, the Mississippi Free Press' Ashton Pittman recently reported that, over the summer, election officials in Madison County "quietly rezoned" 2,000 mostly Black and Hispanic voters out of a majority-White precinct into a cramped majority non-White precinct with few parking spaces, in what many believe is a means of making the area solidly Republican.
"My view is that this is being done to discourage minorities from voting," Carol Mann, a Democratic candidate for District 1 election commissioner, told the Mississippi Free Press. "These streets and these apartment complexes, and I can tell you having gone through all of them and knocking on doors in this area, are vastly majority African American."
While galling, these two connected elements of the election -- White voters' buoying of Trump, the jockeying of a minority party to maintain control of a country that increasingly rejects it -- aren't surprising. Arguably, they reveal what America has always been.
Or as the African American studies professor Eddie S. Glaude Jr. says in a video that's been recirculating this week, "It's easy for us to place it all on Donald Trump's shoulders. ... (But) this is us."
 
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Republicans are unlikely to run Pompeo tbh. He is not too charismatic, but rather a career bureaucrat, and Italian Americans don't have a strong identity outside blue strongholds anyhow. If they do run him it won't be in response to anything, it'll be because they see a way to win exploiting his ideology.

Democrats took a huge risk running an Irish Catholic. The only other was JFK. Irish Catholics also have weak identity outside blue strongholds and don't vote as a block. Cuomo is just a regular conservative, he won't have special appeal beyond more status quo, same as Biden.

Republicans are going to go in 100% on racism, militarism and xenophobia from here on out. They have seen that it works and the easiest way to win is through the aggrieved white working class at the margins. Their entire platform will be supremacy at home, dominance abroad. None of the timid, conservative Democrat goals.

I beg to differ

Republicans may dog whistle racism going forward but won’t be as overt about it anymore. They won 26% of the non-white vote (12% of the black vote and 32% of the Latino vote according to Fox News, I don’t the states for Asians), which is why they still have a chance. Without it they can count out Florida and Texas. The anti-Mexican rhetoric probably cost them Arizona and Nevada not to mention New Mexico, which they lost a while ago.

p.s. anti-Semitic stuff won’t work for the republicans either, they got 30% of the Jewish vote this election. That the best the republicans have done with Jewish votes since Reagan. They need all these groups in their party to even come close to winning next time around.

 
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Public private partnerships and tax incentives. What America had going for it is that people want to move here. Population growth, which is mostly through immigration, should continue to attract top talent from the rest of the world if we keep our companies competitive.

Immigrants cycle through cities, usually for the first one or two generations before moving to the suburbs; for their ethnic/back home needs. If the cities are vibrant again, people will come in to enjoy the experiences.

Chinese immigration was dropping like a rock even before Trump went full xenophobe in 2019. Korean immigration has been over for a decade. Vietnamese immigration never took off outside of refugees.

I predict that East Asian demographics are going to peak soon, then decline as % of the population as East Asians stop coming in large numbers and many move back or move to more East Asian friendly places like Canada, Australia, Singapore, etc.

The new US immigrants will be Latino (with more central Americans) Filipino and South Asian. South Asian GDP is about where China's was when Chinese immigration was at its peak in the early 2000s and South Asians get far more H-1Bs than Chinese.
 
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Chinese immigration was dropping like a rock even before Trump went full xenophobe in 2019. Korean immigration has been over for a decade. Vietnamese immigration never took off outside of refugees.

I predict that East Asian demographics are going to peak soon, then decline as % of the population as East Asians stop coming in large numbers and many move back or move to more East Asian friendly places like Canada, Australia, Singapore, etc.

The new US immigrants will be Latino (with more central Americans) Filipino and South Asian. South Asian GDP is about where China's was when Chinese immigration was at its peak in the early 2000s and South Asians get far more H-1Bs than Chinese.

The US will just have to work harder to get real talent from abroad, but for the sake of. Atonal unity, I hope they start training the people already here. These Silicon Valley companies want “disposable” H1B workers and don’t want to hire American. It maybe one aspect the republican controlled senate may push to re-enforce their image as the party of the native born white Americans.
 
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I beg to differ

Republicans may dog whistle racism going forward but won’t be as overt about it anymore. They won 26% of the non-white vote, which is why they still have a chance. Without it they can count out Florida and Texas. The anti-Mexican rhetoric probably cost them Arizona and Nevada not to mention New Mexico, which they lost a while ago.

They can appease Latinos by considering them 'white enough' and go all in on anti-Chinese. It is already politically correct to bash Chinese verbally. China being strong, rather than like the Qing Dynasty days when the exclusion act got passed, is what really protects Chinese in the US - geopolitical leverage.
 
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Bidens first priority will be passing some sort of stimulus. While election is the talk the US has surpassed 100,000 covid cases in a day for the first time ever. The way things are heading I would not be suprised if we reach 200,000+ covid cases a day a month from now. Trump seems intent on burning the country to the ground so nothing is left when Biden becomes president by the end of January.

At that point Biden cant just get by with passing a 2 trillion USD stimulus. He will have to think big and go for a super stimulus(5-6 Trillion), which would focus on covid relief measures, but also huge investment in infrastrusture, health, etc... Sure that seems like a huge figure, but he will have no choice but to increase taxes on the rich and make cuts to the defence budget. Without the super stimulus- the US will fall into an economic abyss similar to Japan in the 90's.
 
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Bidens first priority will be passing some sort of stimulus. While election is the talk the US has surpassed 100,000 covid cases in a day for the first time ever. The way things are heading I would not be suprised if we reach 200,000+ covid cases a day a month from now. Trump seems intent on burning the country to the ground so nothing is left when Biden becomes president by the end of January.

At that point Biden cant just get by with passing a 2 trillion USD stimulus. He will have to think big and go for a super stimulus(5-6 Trillion), which would focus on covid relief measures, but also huge investment in infrastrusture, health, etc... Sure that seems like a huge figure, but he will have no choice but to increase taxes on the rich and make cuts to the defence budget. Without the super stimulus- the US will fall into an economic abyss similar to Japan in the 90's.
USA can afford to spend by increasing debt

what biden needs is to spend 2 trillion on infrastr after covid ..
he can do that with minimum cuts to defense spending simply by accumulating more debt
 
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USA can afford to spend by increasing debt

what biden needs is to spend 2 trillion on infrastr after covid ..
he can do that with minimum cuts to defense spending simply by accumulating more debt

That will spike interest rates and now China is uninterested in US debt. Japan can buy some but its zombified economy is just as debt ridden as the US, and it's economy is far smaller than China's.

A cliff is coming. The basic problem is that without China nobody is big enough to bail out the US. US has to undergo multiple painful reforms in coronavirus, then student loans, then health care, then infrastructure, then climate change.
 
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@OldTwilight now that it's become clear that Biden is gonna win, I curious as to your thoughts as a trump supporter.

Okay, I'm out. I'm not gonna have this conversation, if you aren't gonna take this seriously.

so , wow to Americans ... I pity them , they don't know what they done to their country ... 10 years later they maybe start to realize , but they will try to not accept their mistakes , then 15 years later , they will admit it ...
I always said , Trump is the last chance of USA to keep her hegemon , after him , you slowly but steadily will lose ground ...


I was just sick of reformers act and being bitch for USA and selling Iran in next 6 months ...
 
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What did India gain from Howdy Modi and Namaste Trump rallies of which, bkhats were jumping up and down for Trump @Protest_again @manga
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Will he be less transactional with India ? as far as trade is concerned ?
India got nothing from trump but many modi supporters are claiming huge loss for India .
Don't know what trump helped India with in the last 4 years, other than increasing the headache for us in every aspect and hugging modi .
Many modi haters are rejoicing , in an anticipation that biden will be anti BJP and their policies .
I remember them rejoicing when macron won defeating the right wing candidate there in france .
 
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Will he be less transactional with India ? as far as trade is concerned ?
India got nothing from trump but many modi supporters are claiming huge loss for India .
Don't know what trump helped India with in the last 4 years, other than increasing the headache for us in every aspect and hugging modi .
Many modi haters are rejoicing , in an anticipation that biden will be anti BJP and their policies .
I remember them rejoicing when macron won defeating the right wing candidate there in france .
Hahaha So you guys finally learnt the working of a genius.
 
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What did India gain from Howdy Modi and Namaste Trump rallies of which, bkhats were jumping up and down for Trump @Protest_again @manga
How are they not beneficial? They are hugely beneficial to Modi. Howdy Modi was Modi centric event. Trump attending it enhanced his popularity. Same with Namasthe Trump, both are targeted at Indian audience. They were suitably adjusted to satisfy Trump's huge ego.

Trump has been extremely cooperative with our anti-Pakistan rhetoric. He has not turned anti-India, like he did with China, that should be enough. Same is going to happen with Biden. New H1-B's who will be given green cards are all the people who attend modi rallies paying $300 ticket. Once they become electorate, there is no stopping India- US relationship. Hopefully you are ready for a bumpy ride.
 
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