Unironically: Could declaring Sharia Law in Pakistan solve it's insurgency problem?

[Sharma Ji]

A secular capitalist nation state is the defacto model for success in the modern age.

or a muscular security state, not ideal, and will earn the ire of the west situationally, and even many of your own people will frown upon the very idea of but..

the military is a very powerful player in Pakistan.. unleash the beast and let it establish a peace through dominance.

India would prefer to talk with a gernail anyday as opposed to a fleeting opportunist politician, whoever it may be.

 

[TheSolution]

A secular capitalist nation state is the defacto model for success in the modern age.

Secularism has no value in a country that is 96%+ religious Muslims.

 

[Menace2Society]

Secularism has no value in a country that is 96%+ religious Muslims.

It decides how impartial governance is at state level and ultimately that's what decides the fate of a country.

 

[Erieye]

I mean it sounds like it would work to Pakistan's favour very well, considering how insurgencies are the biggest hurdle to it's stability and prevent economic growth and internal development. They are designed this way to keep it preoccupied in endless wars.

I think this could work if Pakistan implements a meritocratic system alongside it, however I don't think this would ever happen as it would cause international outcry.

Can you imagine a nuclear armed nation, with the world's 7th largest army, declaring Sharia Law? They wouldn't just let that happen...

What do you think about OP's idea? @Indos

 

[VCheng]

Can you imagine a nuclear armed nation, with the world's 7th largest army, declaring Sharia Law? They wouldn't just let that happen...

Absolutely WRONG. If Pakistan wants to declare sharia law, nothing can stop it. After all, this is the same nation that developed its own nuclear weapons after "they" said do not do it. It can do anything it wants to, if it decides to do so. Blaming "them" is merely a cop out.

 

[Menace2Society]

If Pakistan wants to do this then it has to create its own religion. You can't use a foreign religion, all it would take is a bunch of Afghans and Uzbeks claiming number 1 Muslim and taking over. Also this Islamic state idea is a failed experiment, it doesn't even work like communism.

 

[Erieye]

Absolutely WRONG. If Pakistan wants to declare sharia law, nothing can stop it. After all, this is the same nation that developed its own nuclear weapons after "they" said do not do it. It can do anything it wants to, if it decides to do so. Blaming "them" is merely a cop out.

"They" have power to financially choke a nation, to coerce it in various ways due to their leverage of critical technologies and trade.

 

[VCheng]

"They" have power to financially choke a nation, to coerce it in various ways due to their leverage of critical technologies and trade.

Another excuse. And equally pathetically false. Pakistan's economy is what it is by its own designs.

 

[Erieye]

If Pakistan wants to do this then it has to create its own religion. You can't use a foreign religion, all it would take is a bunch of Afghans and Uzbeks claiming number 1 Muslim and taking over. Also this Islamic state idea is a failed experiment, it doesn't even work like communism.

It should be an internalised version, that also incorporates and respects local cultures.

It should allow arts, local traditional architecture, scientific and technological advancements to flourish.

Islam with a meritocratic structure is the only viable one.

Another excuse. And equally pathetically false. Pakistan's economy is what it is by its own designs.

Yes I don't deny this, but to a certain level the 'international community' has leverage over other nations.

 

[TheSolution]

If Pakistan wants to do this then it has to create its own religion. You can't use a foreign religion, all it would take is a bunch of Afghans and Uzbeks claiming number 1 Muslim and taking over. Also this Islamic state idea is a failed experiment, it doesn't even work like communism.

Nah 100% agreed.

Indigenous sect required.

Meritocracy must be a state outlined and strictly followed policy.

 

[Menace2Society]

It should be an internalised version, that also incorporates and respects local cultures.

It should allow arts, local traditional arhitecture, scientific and technological advancements to flourish.

Islam with a meritocratic structure is the only viable one.


Yes I don't deny this, but to a certain level the 'international community' has leverage over other nations.

But by design it can't coexist in that manner. It was created to make it easier to assimilate non arab people and their land. Its like r kelly on steroids.

 

[VCheng]

Yes I don't deny this, but to a certain level the 'international community' has leverage over other nations.

Only if you let them. To what extent this influence works, or not, is ALWAYS up to Pakistan itself.

 

[Erieye]

Then there would be insurgency and fighting over what sort of Shariah Law should there be, they'd just say that the Shariah Law that is implemented is not pure and not accoring to true essence of Islam blah blah, these people would never agree on one thing ever.


Like C'mon man, these people have been fighting amongst each other for decades and centuries, if they can't agree among themselves how would they agree with anyone else? Facts!

Tbh I think you're inflating the possibility of this.

Once Sharia Law is implemented pretty much all sincere groups will be compelled to address their disagreements through dialogue.

Anyone fighting against an Islamic system pretty much becomes labelled a kaffir of sorts. And trust me the Islamists would destroy someone like that.

It would be much, much, much more easier to deal with than TTP right now has been.

 

[VCheng]

Anyone fighting against an Islamic system pretty much becomes labelled a kaffir of sorts.

And how well is this practice of declaring others kafirs working out thus far for Pakistan? That is just a preview.

 

[Erieye]

Eg: Insurgency by "Islamic State" militants against Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

And IS is very very weak compared to how strong TTP is inside Pakistan.

TTP regularly carries out more attacks and once had an entire province under its control.