Under pressure but not down , PM Nawaz Sharif rightly asks USA stand with Pakistan against India !

[batmannow]

I see your point, but I am pointing out the fact that multiple reasons led to invasion of Iraq.

Yes, US is boosting its business activities from wars and regional conflicts:

US Looking for Contractors to Help in Iraq
How The US Floods The World With Weapons And Brings Billions Back Home

However, US does not needs to occupy Iraq to gain access to resources of the Middle East proper. Iraq is not the only resourceful nation in the Middle East. GCC member states (collectively) have more resources then a single country in the Middle East and US have positive relationship with all GCC member states.

When Saddam Hussein attacked a GCC member state (Kuwait) in 1990, he became a threat to US interests in the Middle East. Why? Because it was not in the interests of US that a hostile country becomes a dominating force in the Middle East, takes over GCC states one by one and therefore harm US business activities in the region. GCC member states also felt that it was necessary to stop Saddam Hussein and played a role in motivating US to take action against him.

Off topic derailing the thread !
@waz
Is this the topic here ?
I demand , a ban on him ?
What it has to do with PM Nawaz sharifs visits to USA & telling them to take side with Pakistan to solve Kashmir ?
Are you out of your stupid mind ?

 

[Fracker]

Sure I don't care what Nawaz has don his entire life , his crouption or whatever ?
But the fact is , he is in right time on right place & with right statement !
That's enough for me !

Well, it's Pakistani stand ultimately. Nawaz Sharif or anyone else, this is the time to gain the peace which Pakistan is crying for last 15 years. 60000 people died due to funded terrorists of India, our brothers in Kashmir are facing Indian Army Brutality for so long.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153403294547663

Even Afghanistan requires a peace which is getting hard when Afghanistan Government itself wanted to become Proxy. And USA allowing all this shit against the region, even they are funding many militants working against Pakistan.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=326765030857395

India has to be tamed and USA has to leave this region so We Pakistanis, Afghanis, Kashmiris, and even indian Muslims live in Peace. It is our right and we are not insects what americans assume us to be.

 

[batmannow]

Well, it's Pakistani stand ultimately. Nawaz Sharif or anyone else, this is the time to gain the peace which Pakistan is crying for last 15 years. 60000 people died due to funded terrorists of India, our brothers in Kashmir are facing Indian Army Brutality for so long.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153403294547663

Even Afghanistan requires a peace which is getting hard when Afghanistan Government itself wanted to become Proxy. And USA allowing all this shit against the region, even they are funding many militants working against Pakistan.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=326765030857395

India has to be tamed and USA has to leave this region so We Pakistanis, Afghanis, Kashmiris, and even indian Muslims live in Peace. It is our right and we are not insects what americans assume us to be.

Sure its our united stand !
I'm with you on it !

 

[waz]

Sir ,
If he acts , to derail the thread , then I'm sorry to disobey your orders in the best interests of my nation !

There will be no derailing now, thanks.

I see your point, but I am pointing out the fact that multiple reasons led to invasion of Iraq.

Yes, US is boosting its business activities from wars and regional conflicts:

US Looking for Contractors to Help in Iraq
How The US Floods The World With Weapons And Brings Billions Back Home

However, US does not needs to occupy Iraq to gain access to resources of the Middle East proper. Iraq is not the only resourceful nation in the Middle East. GCC member states (collectively) have more resources then a single country in the Middle East and US have positive relationship with all GCC member states.

When Saddam Hussein attacked a GCC member state (Kuwait) in 1990, he became a threat to US interests in the Middle East. Why? Because it was not in the interests of US that a hostile country becomes a dominating force in the Middle East, takes over GCC states one by one and therefore harm US business activities in the region. GCC member states also felt that it was necessary to stop Saddam Hussein and played a role in motivating US to take action against him.

Stay on topic bro.

 

[BijliMamu]

It is time Pakistan know that US will not side with Pakistan on Kashmir. Unless Pakistan hangs Dawood, Hafeez Saeed and other Mumbai terrorists, talks will not commence and US or for that matter no country on the earth can force India to talk with Pakistan.

O yaar, you people are stuck on these two figures. Lame excuses with baseless blah blah!!

 

[A.M.]

NS doing all the right things recently. The military and civilian leaderships have finally reached an equilibrium it seems like.

 

[VCheng]

Wow.. What a Move.. First Time Pakistan is playing real bargain with USA.

USA reaction is still unpredictable, since they are not used to Bi direction talks when it comes to Pakistan. Pakistan has to keep pressure to gain peace out of it. Since that is our ultimate goal anyways.

So what exactly has Pakistan achieved with this visit except diplomatic platitudes that are being spun to make NS look good?

 

[SamantK]

What is NS being congratulated for?

Isn't that the standard line Pakistan takes with US?

 

[Pandora]

This is the best thread in years as Indians have tried to ruin the thread but failed as no one gave a dime about their troll atempt.

@Topic This has been a diplomatic victory. Nawaz will win a lot of support for this back home at least Pakistani media will get off his back for a while.

 

[SamantK]

@Topic This has been a diplomatic victory. Nawaz will win a lot of support for this back home at least Pakistani media will get off his back for a while.

There is no new content to comment here apart from Pakistanis making NS look good. Indians like me obviously dont want a droll convo

 

[VCheng]

This has been a diplomatic victory. Nawaz will win a lot of support for this back home at least Pakistani media will get off his back for a while.

A diplomatic victory will happen only if there is any tangible action from USA to support what is being claimed. What NS has received is only words. Talk is cheap.

 

[Pandora]

A diplomatic victory will happen only if there is any tangible action from USA to support what is being claimed. What NS has received is only words. Talk is cheap.

Hence the word "Diplomatic Victory"

Secondly words carry a lot of weight when they are coming from Obama which is the point here. Pakistani Public might not have liking for Obama but rest of the world does.

 

[VCheng]

Hence the word "Diplomatic Victory"

Secondly words carry a lot of weight when they are coming from Obama which is the point here. Pakistani Public might not have liking for Obama but rest of the world does.

Remember Obama's speech in Cairo? What happened after that? Sir, Obama is just another politician. It is important to remain skeptical of what is being said and claimed here, in order to reduce the inevitable disappointment yet to follow.

USA has not changed any of its policies in any significant way with this statement.

 

[That Guy]

By asking for assistance? that is interesting.

I think you're looking at the surface of the situation, and not what's beneath it.

 

[batmannow]

This is the best thread in years as Indians have tried to ruin the thread but failed as no one gave a dime about their troll atempt.

@Topic This has been a diplomatic victory. Nawaz will win a lot of support for this back home at least Pakistani media will get off his back for a while.

Buddy this thread , is started by a Pakistani super troll so , no Indian can come face him , he is the fear among them ?lolzz
It doesn't matters , what he has achieved in this visit , only thing he got is no more do more on anyrhing , & at least he come up demanding Kashmir , if US wants a peacefull Afghanistan ?
That itself is quite fair ask ?

Remember Obama's speech in Cairo? What happened after that? Sir, Obama is just another politician. It is important to remain skeptical of what is being said and claimed here, in order to reduce the inevitable disappointment yet to follow.

USA has not changed any of its policies in any significant way with this statement.

To early to judge sir !
I think growing Russian + Chinese involvement is iriking Yankees , but they knew well if they blink now , they will be part of history ?
Just like england in 40s or after world war 2?
Yankees will trun & twist , to counter Russian+Chinese position , for sure & that will be the time when , things will start to change for every one ?