Unconfirmed : Bangladesh Army may acquire Khan (Bora) Ballistic missile from Turkey

[Bilal9]

I don’t see why we would go reinvent the wheel with liquid fuel BM. too complicated maintenance schedules. Even China retired their stockpile

Exactly - I was just mentioning this as a theoretical concept. Solid fuel is the way to go nowadays. Always ready at the go, minimal time to launch.

 

[Avicenna]

Can we get this thread back on topic?

Unconfirmed : Bangladesh Army may acquire Khan (Bora) Ballistic missile from Turkey

I don’t see why we would go reinvent the wheel with liquid fuel BM. too complicated maintenance schedules. Even China retired their stockpile Exactly - I was just mentioning this as a theoretical concept. Solid fuel is the way to go nowadays. Always ready at the go, minimal time to launch.

defence.pk

KHAN MISSILE

KHAN Missile provides accurate and effective fire power on strategic targets within the battlefield.
The missile can be launched from 8×8 Tactical Wheeled Vehicle, ROKETSAN MCL (Multi-Caliber Launcher) Weapon System and other platforms with compatible interfaces.

Potential Targets
• Targets Located with High Accuracy
• Artillery and Air Defence Systems
• Radar Sites
• Assembly Areas
• Logistic Facilities
• C3 Facilities
• High Priority Targets

Features

• Combat Proven
• 7/24 All Weather/Terrain Usage Capability
• Ready to Fire
• Low Collateral Damage
• Long Range Highly Accurate Precision Strike Capability
• Anti Jamming/Anti Spoofing Solutions

Technical Specifications

Diameter	610 mm
Weight	2.500 kg
Guidance	Global Positioning System (GPS) + Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) Aided Intertial Navigation System (INS) or INS Only
Control	Aerodynamic Control with Hydraulic Actuation System
Propellant Type	Composite Solid
Warhead Type	High Explosive with Blast Fragmentation
Warhead Weight	470 kg
Fuze Type	Point Detonating and Proximity
Accuracy (CEP)	≤ 10 m GPS + GLONASS Aided INS ≤ 100 m INS Only

 

[Bilal9]

lol, wut? Says who?

The face of poverty everywhere, from the UK to the US to the EU, the infamous ''boat people'' who risk their lives to cross the border, end up working at an ''Indian restaurant'' & smelling like unwashed dishes?

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I can smell this picture from here... It smells of stale vindaloo...

It takes a special kind of incompetence & downright inferiority to be a Bangladeshi, to scrape the bottom of the barrel everywhere you go.

It's not better back in the home-swamp, where your slave women work for a few cents an hour in unsafe factories. And no one gives a damn about that until it all collapses on their heads. Imagine being that ''disposable''.

I understand that disparaging India & Indians is a coping mechanism for you, to preserve that modicum of self-respect.

The same India which put you on a map, looted you as payment, continues to extract billions from you in trade, denies you water, shoots your illegals, opens barrages without warning & controls your political class.

The very same India against which you can't even protest publically in your very own country, or you will be beaten up or even killed by the Indian slave-party's goons.

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Imagine being this worthless, to end up as bottom feeders everywhere & to be controlled as if on a leash. And imagine being delusional enough to claim ''superiority'' over your master.

Your kind is truly special.

Mighty words from residents of the superpower that sends the largest group of illegal migrants to most countries.

Indians are the third-largest group of illegal migrants in UK: Report

Illegal Chinese immigrants were estimated at around 1,310 and Nigerians at 458, with other nationalities working illegally in large numbers in the UK include Albanians, Turks and Ukrainians.

indianexpress.com

India left Mexico behind as the top country sending illegal immigrants into the United States as of 2012, according to several media reports.



Pew Research has found that Indians constitute four per cent of the total illegal immigrants living in the US, a country where the overall unauthorized immigrant population has remained unchanged since 2009.

Eikhane bagh, bastobe biral.

Bastobe smelly Khatash. Gosole poisha khoroch...

Pepé Le Pew

 

[Bilal9]

Can we get this thread back on topic?

Unconfirmed : Bangladesh Army may acquire Khan (Bora) Ballistic missile from Turkey

I don’t see why we would go reinvent the wheel with liquid fuel BM. too complicated maintenance schedules. Even China retired their stockpile Exactly - I was just mentioning this as a theoretical concept. Solid fuel is the way to go nowadays. Always ready at the go, minimal time to launch.

defence.pk

KHAN MISSILE

KHAN Missile provides accurate and effective fire power on strategic targets within the battlefield.
The missile can be launched from 8×8 Tactical Wheeled Vehicle, ROKETSAN MCL (Multi-Caliber Launcher) Weapon System and other platforms with compatible interfaces.

Potential Targets
• Targets Located with High Accuracy
• Artillery and Air Defence Systems
• Radar Sites
• Assembly Areas
• Logistic Facilities
• C3 Facilities
• High Priority Targets

Features

• Combat Proven
• 7/24 All Weather/Terrain Usage Capability
• Ready to Fire
• Low Collateral Damage
• Long Range Highly Accurate Precision Strike Capability
• Anti Jamming/Anti Spoofing Solutions

Technical Specifications

Diameter	610 mm
Weight	2.500 kg
Guidance	Global Positioning System (GPS) + Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) Aided Intertial Navigation System (INS) or INS Only
Control	Aerodynamic Control with Hydraulic Actuation System
Propellant Type	Composite Solid
Warhead Type	High Explosive with Blast Fragmentation
Warhead Weight	470 kg
Fuze Type	Point Detonating and Proximity
Accuracy (CEP)	≤ 10 m GPS + GLONASS Aided INS ≤ 100 m INS Only

Where did they prove this in combat? Uzbekistan or Syria?

 

[Avicenna]

Where did they prove this in combat? Uzbekistan or Syria?

Iraq.

Turkey’s Bora missile saw combat debut: What next?

Turkish defense planners consider the Bora line to be a high-precision, conventional and tactical asset for battlefield use - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Turkey’s Bora missile saw combat debut: What next?
Turkish defense planners consider the Bora line to be a high-precision, conventional and tactical asset for battlefield use

Dr. Can Kasapoglu |19.06.2019

ISTANBUL
In late May 2019, press sources reported that the Turkish military combat-tested the Bora ballistic missile during Operation Claw, a counter-terrorism campaign targeting the PKK in northern Iraq.
The incident marked a milestone for Turkey’s burgeoning defense capacity. Bora was officially unveiled back in 2017, at IDEF-17 exhibition, by ROKETSAN.
In May 2017, the missile was tested in the Black Sea port city of Sinop. At IDEX-2017 of the United Arab Emirates, this time, Bora’s export version “Khan” was unveiled. Impressively, within only two years, the ballistic missile saw its combat debut, showcasing the Turkish defense sector’s signature in producing high-end systems.

A tale of ‘Boost’
Originally, the Bora tactical ballistic missile is a product of Turkish–Chinese defense cooperation, centered on China’s B-611 baseline. In tandem, available writings trace back Turkey’s 300-mm MBRL (multi-barrel rocket launcher) and the J-600T battlefield ballistic missile to the above-mentioned bilateral military ties between Ankara and Beijing, inaugurated in the late 1990s.
Turkey’s new missile has a range of 280 km, and has GPS / INS guidance. Whereas the Chinese B-611 has a CEP (circular error probable) of some 50 meters, open-source evidence suggests that ROKETSAN has managed to reduce it to some 10 meters for Bora, making the missile more accurate. The missile can carry a conventional warhead with 450-kg payload. Considering the MTCR (missile technology control regime) restrictions, and given the fact that Turkey also seeks to export Bora, current specifications of the missile depict it as a reliable, combat-tested tactical asset.

Battlefield ballistic missiles: force-multipliers
From a military standpoint, the Bora tactical ballistic missile could offer robust war-fighting capabilities for the Turkish Armed Forces. The missile is road-mobile, carried by a TELAR (transporter-erector-launcher). Road-mobile missiles are more survivable on the battlefield, as they can be deployed to different launch positions flexibly. While fixed launch sites could come under adversaries’ preventive strikes, locating and targeting TELARs necessitates a consuming intelligence effort. Secondly, Bora is a solid-propellant missile. Thereby, it has a shorter launch cycle compared to liquid-propellant missiles (i.e. the Scud family of ballistic missiles) and requires less personnel to operate.
Third, thanks to its low CEP and some 450-kg warhead, it can eliminate a broad array of targets in the battlefield, ranging from bases to troop concentrations and even critical infrastructure that falls within its range. Such a firepower, coupled with pinpoint accuracy, provides Turkey with many options. In fact, armed conflicts in Yemen and Ukraine showed that even the Cold War-remnant, inaccurate Tochka (SS-21 Scarab) missiles with a great CEP can inflict massive damage. Thus, new generation ballistic missiles with more unpredictable terminal homing paths and small CEP can really register game-changer results.

Turkey’s missile-rich neighborhood
Geopolitically, developing adequate missile capabilities remains a must for Ankara given its regional threat landscape. Turkey’s Middle Eastern doorstep has long been plagued by an arms race for ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction. Syria and Iran are formidable missile proliferators in this respect. Besides, the North Korean strategic weapons know-how has been pouring into these countries for some time. One should recall that back in 2005, the Syrian Arab Armed Forces test-launched Scud-type ballistic missiles (including a North Korean manufactured Scud-D with a range of some 700 km). The missiles were tested in the airburst mode, which is used to deliver chemical and biological payloads. One of the missiles fell onto the Turkish border city of Hatay. Likewise, one should also recall how top Iranian military figures voiced threats to hit NATO’s X-band radar in Kurecik, Malatya, namely on Turkish soil.
Furthermore, Turkey is surrounded by missile contingents across Crimea and Armenia. While Ankara strives to acquire defensive strategic weapons capabilities through high-altitude / long-range air and missile defense systems procurement, developing an offensive deterrent within the MTCR framework remains a must to ensure intrawar deterrence, that is, tacit bargaining capacity within an ongoing armed conflict by controlling escalation patterns.
Finally, Turkey is surrounded by contested airspaces. Menacing A2/AD (anti-access / area denial) nodes pose grave threats to manned aircraft. Under these circumstances, ballistic missiles could offer some deep strike capability, especially when eliminating high-value targets, without risking pilots’ lives. That said, tactical ballistic missiles are no silver bullet replacements to a stealth air-wing, and Ankara still has to invest in 5th-generation air power.

The way forward
Although much has been speculated about Turkey’s ballistic missile program, let us wrap up the known facts. Relatively shorter-range tactical ballistic missiles (known as battlefield ballistic missiles, generally considered to have less than a 300-km range) are force-multipliers, especially when equipped with high precision. At the time being, Bora is such an asset with a newly gained combat record. Besides, Turkey’s transparent test-launching policy also shows the confidence backing the Bora line’s development.
In the foreseeable future, one should expect a gradual but steady uptrend in the Bora line. Turkey has a clean record when it comes to complying with the MTCR requirements, and is party to all major WMD non-proliferation regimes. Thus, militarily, we can safely assume that Turkish defense planners consider the Bora line to be a high-precision, conventional and tactical asset for battlefield use. This end-state requires soberly capitalizing on the test-results and rare occasions of combat action, such as Operation Claw.
More complex terminal homing performance or improved warhead design could be the next targets, although there is no open-source clue about the roadmap. Only, Turkish officials voiced the idea of Bora-2 in the past, without elaborating what the second batch could bring about. In the meanwhile, Ankara would explore lucrative markets for the export variant in league with the growing arms sales performance of the Turkish defense sector.

Dr. Can Kasapoglu is the director of Defense and Security Researches Program of the Istanbul-based independent think-tank EDAM.

 

[Saiful Islam]

lol, wut? Says who?

The face of poverty everywhere, from the UK to the US to the EU, the infamous ''boat people'' who risk their lives to cross the border, end up working at an ''Indian restaurant'' & smelling like unwashed dishes?

View attachment 772134

I can smell this picture from here... It smells of stale vindaloo...

It takes a special kind of incompetence & downright inferiority to be a Bangladeshi, to scrape the bottom of the barrel everywhere you go.

It's not better back in the home-swamp, where your slave women work for a few cents an hour in unsafe factories. And no one gives a damn about that until it all collapses on their heads. Imagine being that ''disposable''.

I understand that disparaging India & Indians is a coping mechanism for you, to preserve that modicum of self-respect.

The same India which put you on a map, looted you as payment, continues to extract billions from you in trade, denies you water, shoots your illegals, opens barrages without warning & controls your political class.

The very same India against which you can't even protest publically in your very own country, or you will be beaten up or even killed by the Indian slave-party's goons.

View attachment 772150

Imagine being this worthless, to end up as bottom feeders everywhere & to be controlled as if on a leash. And imagine being delusional enough to claim ''superiority'' over your master.

Your kind is truly special.

Our women aren't getting raped on buses,

lol, wut? Says who?

The face of poverty everywhere, from the UK to the US to the EU, the infamous ''boat people'' who risk their lives to cross the border, end up working at an ''Indian restaurant'' & smelling like unwashed dishes?

View attachment 772134

I can smell this picture from here... It smells of stale vindaloo...

It takes a special kind of incompetence & downright inferiority to be a Bangladeshi, to scrape the bottom of the barrel everywhere you go.

It's not better back in the home-swamp, where your slave women work for a few cents an hour in unsafe factories. And no one gives a damn about that until it all collapses on their heads. Imagine being that ''disposable''.

I understand that disparaging India & Indians is a coping mechanism for you, to preserve that modicum of self-respect.

The same India which put you on a map, looted you as payment, continues to extract billions from you in trade, denies you water, shoots your illegals, opens barrages without warning & controls your political class.

The very same India against which you can't even protest publically in your very own country, or you will be beaten up or even killed by the Indian slave-party's goons.

View attachment 772150

Imagine being this worthless, to end up as bottom feeders everywhere & to be controlled as if on a leash. And imagine being delusional enough to claim ''superiority'' over your master.

Your kind is truly special.

That top picture looks like they've got better upkeep than any of your ilk. Like I said you don't understand how funny we're all finding it that an Indian, that too a South Indian Malloo Uloopatam is so jumpy. I mean Black people call you coolies, indentured slaves, hygiene issues, thrifty with money. They Indians in the west gave them selves white names to get an easy ride.

Anyways look again lads, with his outdated information, ain't surprising. Poorest group in the west - who does that remind you lmao? (Nilgiri) the South Indian coolie black boy.

People if you ever come to the UK have a visit to Belgrave Road, East Ham and a few other places and you'll know what Indians smell like.

There's a reason Pakistanis call you Tharkan, ya'll smell like shit. And tbh being called an Indian is downright jaw dropping and insulting. That's the word here in the west, the Pakistanis take the most insult to it but luckily we Bangladeshis are good people and think nothing of mistaken nationality.

I can say more about your ilk, Paul and Jerry but really jay shree Patel and mitalalapaloo lmao.

Also nothing wrong with the curry industry. We just shat on all ya dishes and served it to white people. Enough money coming through declaring that 8k per year salary ; )

This "harry from the car insurance you have been involved in an accident" call centre boy had to resort to poverty to make an insult..aw.
Those poor Afghans sure did a number on you. Pahaha.

Stick to previous glories son, it's the only feel better therapy ya gonna get.

 

[Bilal9]

Video says this has a CEP of 30-50m, is equivalent to the Russian Iskander and was developed from the Chinese M20 SRBM.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Build your own.

300 km does not cover the entirety of India.

 

[VikingRaider]

Lower? I don't see how. Data is here.

India $7,332
Bangladesh $5,811

And then you have Bangladeshis doubting those figures. Like this: Questionable BBS GDP Statistics

Maybe your statistics office is as inefficient & incompetent as your science & technology sector.

A puppet Bangladesh is always adorable chhota bhai of India ( Indian mind setting). And a stronger Bangladesh is always embarrassment for India!

However Bangladesh was always destinied to be the embarrassment for India.

Indians' Itiching is the biggest evidence!

I think we should stop bickering with these BNP worshipping fanboys , @bluesky puts his points well , but then someone from this gang of uneducated over optimistic fuelled by indian media obsessed with indian politics come to forum and ruins it with senseless claims

Yes the points of @bluesky always have been appealing for Indians.

Nilgiri and some other trouble maker Indians also said so and used to be fan of @bluesky.

Many PDF Bangladeshi fellows perhaps forgot it.

(Although I recommend everyone to be respectful to each other despite different ideology and line of thinking)

Where the defame of Bangladesh, @bluesky always very favorite, and surely his all words are gospel truth!

Taking Muslim name ( In some other cases taking Pakistani flags) is very much convenient, isn't it @JamalAli ?

 

[Saiful Islam]

A puppet Bangladesh is always adorable chhota bhai of India ( according to Indian narrative). And a stronger Bangladesh is always embarrassment for India!

However Bangladesh was always destinied to be the embarrassment for India.

Indians' Itiching is the biggest evidence!

Yes the points of @bluesky always have been appealing for Indians.

Nilgiri and some other trouble maker Indians also said so and used to be fan of @bluesky.

Many PDF Bangladeshi fellows perhaps forgot it.

(Although I recommend everyone to be respectful to each other despite different ideology and line of thinking)

Where the defame of Bangladesh, @bluesky always very favorite, and surely his all words are gospel truth!

Taking Muslim name ( In some other cases taking Pakistani flags) is very much convenient, isn't it @JamalAli ?

Honestly who the f has the time to make another account to push the same narrative? This is why the forum is so cringe and makes coming here so undesirable.

 

[VikingRaider]

Honestly who the f has the time to make another account to push the same narrative? This is why the forum is so cringe and makes coming here so undesirable.

Exactly. However not talking about JamalAli, but if you observe other thread , you will see that many Bangladeshi doubted an Indian user to be the new ID of Nilgiri.

But surely JamalAli isn't Indian Muslim. I smell another USER who also used to take Muslim name and used to say that there are 11 crore of illegal Bangladeshi in India! Forgot his ID ( perhaps sarfaraj or something),but remember the memory. He is permanent banned too !

I just remain silent for right reason as I mostly try to avoid wrestling with pigs, because if we do so , both we and pigs will get dirty, and the pig will enjoy it.

@Saiful Islam

 

[VikingRaider]

Where there's a will, there's a way.

We are gonna eat grass but we are gonna get our Nuclear bomb.

You are surviving because you have nuclear bomb TBH. Only NUKE keeps India at bay.

Common people always mix fantasy and reality.

India at least has a deep pocket to draw the attention of white skin.

The world is based on business mate , here human rights are obsolete.

I would be very happy if Bangladesh could make NUKE , but unfortunately it's not possible!

In military science , offense is always the best defense!

 

[mb444]

Where there's a will, there's a way.

We are gonna eat grass but we are gonna get our Nuclear bomb.

Pakistan persevered and acquired nukes and guaranteed its sovereignty. It is a great achievement that has permanently cut off indian hegemonic designs.

One hopes someday BD will follow suit. Unfortunately BD does not have the likes of China shielding it. We need to wait until our economy is able to withstand inevitable reprisals from global powers.

 

[Species]

Well I was part of their group at the time and the “rumor” was actually sourced from someone in the military itself. It was supposed to be top secret, cat got out of the bag and diplomatic pressure from neighbor along with budgetary constraints and lack of manpower scrapped the idea of developing it alone. It’s not possible at the time.

anyways, you don’t think BM is sophisticated tech? Then you must be a master in rocket science and electronics, guidance and navigation.

The rumour was that the program is based on Scuds, so they were not supposed to build something from scratch. And these Scuds are even used by militias like Houthis. So how advanced could those Houthis be technologically? Doesn't take rocket science to answer the question.

Diplomatic pressure? lol, a nice little phrase that they could slap to any of their stories when proven false. Surely, pressure only gets to Bangladesh when all the countries in the neighborhood have acquired ballistic missiles, including Myanmar.

Didn't they cook up a similar story regarding Su-30s, like Russians are blackmailing and stuff? lol

 

[Saiful Islam]

Exactly. However not talking about JamalAli, but if you observe other thread , you will see that many Bangladeshi doubted an Indian user to be the new ID of Nilgiri.

But surely JamalAli isn't Indian Muslim. I smell another USER who also used to take Muslim name and used to say that there are 11 crore of illegal Bangladeshi in India! Forgot his ID ( perhaps sarfaraj or something),but remember the memory. He is permanent banned too !

I just remain silent for right reason as I mostly try to avoid wrestling with pigs, because if we do so , both we and pigs will get dirty, and the pig will enjoy it.

@Saiful Islam

Somewhat difficult to change writing style, also, when accused of being 'Nilgiri' the poster didn't refute. Maybe he wants the forum to know he is Nilgiri.

Either way who cares lol