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Uncle Sam in Subcontinent

Back home in subcontinent, they say you should stay away from the cops as much as possible. Their friendship and animosity are both injurious to your health.

America often reminds me of those cops back home. Its friendly hug and angry adversity are equally deadly. It ends up inventing new problems for its friends and allies, even as it ostensibly tries to resolve the existing ones.

What do you make of Robert Gates’ shenanigans in the subcontinent? As if India and Pakistan do not have enough of their issues and problems, Americans are now poking their nose into the subcontinent affairs.

In Delhi, in his characteristic understated tone, the US Defence Secretary delivered a bombshell, warning of an Al Qaeda plot to spark a new war between India and Pakistan. An alliance of Al Qaeda and Taleban working with groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba that claim to champion an independent Kashmir! It seems our worst nightmare has just come true.

Praising India’s restrained response to the 2008 attacks on Mumbai, suspected to be carried out by Lashkar, the Pentagon chief warned: “I think it’s not unreasonable to assume India’s patience would be limited were there to be further attacks.”

Of course, given the recent history of the region, it’s not possible to dismiss the defence secretary’s warning lightly. The threat to the subcontinent’s peace and stability has never been greater. And who is more qualified to comment on the issue than Mr Gates?

No one else in the Obama administration has been mired in the ****** quagmire as long as Gates has been – for more than quarter of a century.

After all, as the CIA’s No. 2, Gates had been the pointman for the US during the 1980s in channeling financial and military aid to the US allies at the time: Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet occupation. Lest we forget many of those US allies or mujahideen leaders are today part of Taleban and Al Qaeda leadership, including a certain sheikh called Osama bin Laden.

So Gates obviously knows what he is talking about when he warns of a gathering Al Qaeda storm over South Asia. And given his understanding of the region, the Pentagon boss should also know that if Al Qaeda has joined hands with ****** Taleban and pro-Kashmir groups based in Pakistan, the credit goes to the US policies in the region.

Let’s face it. This is just another unintended consequence of America’s morally bankrupt and politically disastrous policies and wars in the Islamic world.

I agree with Secretary Gates when he urges India and Pakistan to “recognise the magnitude of the threat that the entire region faces.” This is a serious threat. And as an Indian who loves his country and desperately wants lasting peace and normal relations, if not thick friendship, between India and Pakistan, the US warning is deeply disturbing.

This is especially disturbing to me as an Indian Muslim. Because we go through hell every time there are tensions between India and Pakistan. Imagine our plight when there are attacks on India, ostensibly carried out by some lunatics based in Pakistan.

I know, as many of my fellow Indian Muslims would say, this has nothing to do with us and we do not have to be apologetic for terror attacks on India originating in Pakistan. But this isn’t how things work in the real world out there. Our friends in Pakistan do not seem to have a clue how much we suffer for the actions of a lunatic fringe across the border. Recently, barrister Aitzaz Ahsan, the hero and leading light of Pakistan’s celebrated lawyers’ movement, stunned many in India by claiming at a peace conference in Delhi that “at least 40, 50, 60 locals” had helped a handful of Pakistanis execute the 
Mumbai attacks.

When some angry Indian Muslims confronted Ahsan, he wriggled himself out by saying he was merely toeing the official Pakistani line of diverting Indian attention back to the so-called Muslim factor in India. I don’t know what is ‘official Pakistani line’ on Indian Muslims but I must tell our friends across the border that we have already suffered enough on account of Pakistan.


As Indian journalist Seema Mustafa poignantly wrote in a recent piece: “Indian Muslim is a direct victim of terrorism in that he has been made to pay a heavy price for the terror attacks in India. He has been arrested, interrogated, tortured at will by the police with the help and support of the ruling governments in the states and the centre. He has been made to respond to “Pakistan-sponsored terrorism,” as if he is responsible for the violence. He finds new suspicion and distrust in the eyes of those around him, and is made to feel guilty for terrorism he barely understands and definitely does not support.”

I am absolutely on the dot with Seema Mustafa on this. Pakistan would do Indian Muslims a huge favour by not involving us in its mess. We have enough of our own problems, thank you very much! Returning to the US warning and the combined threat of Al Qaeda and other terror groups, the issue cannot be seen in isolation of the US policies in the region, especially its dual standards in the Middle East.

If Afghanistan and Pakistan are burning today, you do not have to look far for the answers. Yet another OBL tape this week reminded all of us once again about the origins and causes of this long festering conflict. But the more things change for the self-styled coalition of the willing, the more they remain the same. As if the unravelling of one nuclear state was not enough, Americans are now looking to drag India into this widening, deepening mess. With Kashmir continuing to simmer, its growing strategic ties with the US and Israel and its increasing role in Afghanistan, India may already be an inviting target for the Al Qaeda-Lashkar-Taleban combine although you can’t treat them as a 
single behemoth.

The consequences of India unravelling, just as Pakistan has been unravelling, are too horrific to imagine. Remember this is the world’s largest democracy and a nation of 1.3 billion people. It has a myriad problems of its own but it has largely remained an oasis of peace and stability in a troubled neighbourhood, largely thanks to its pluralistic society and the strength of its democratic institutions.

The US war in Afghanistan already has Pakistan in a dangerous, existential turmoil. And now it is threatening India, the region’s biggest economy and a pillar of strength in an unstable region. If India gets involved in this mess, the whole region will unravel.

India and Pakistan can prevent this by joining hands and taking on the shared challenges they face in extremism, extreme poverty and backwardness. They must start talking with each other at the earliest. Because when they do not talk to each other, the extremists speak on their behalf and big boys of this world get a perfect excuse to exploit the situation.

If the US wants to really help India and Pakistan — incidentally both its allies now — it should help them bridge their gulf and help them take on the hurdles they face on the road to peace and progress. But that may be too much to ask of the Americans who have been the biggest beneficiary of India-Pakistan tensions. The South Asian neighbours are amongst the biggest buyers of the US made weapons.

During Gates’ visit to Pakistan this week (after India) he was confronted by a senior official at the National Defence University in Islamabad: “Are you with us or against us?” To which a shaken Gates retorted: “Of course we’re 
with you.”

When it comes to strategic interests though, Americans are on nobody’s side. The only thing that matters is their national interest.

Aijaz Zaka Syed is Opinion Editor
of Khaleej Times.
 
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america is selling weapon to both side that is India and Pakistan. They need strong india in confidence to attack pakistan and atleast capable pakistan to deliver the first blow so Indians can panick and order boat load of spare parts. For weapon dealer wars are best business season.
 
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You can't blame the shopkeeper if the customer is a gullible fool. From the Yanks' perspective - if the American don't sell - the Russians will or the Brits will or the French will...

Either way - all the two countries like to do is thump chests - nothing's gonna change anytime soon.
 
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If the US wants to really help India and Pakistan — incidentally both its allies now — it should help them bridge their gulf and help them take on the hurdles they face on the road to peace and progress. But that may be too much to ask of the Americans who have been the biggest beneficiary of India-Pakistan tensions. The South Asian neighbours are amongst the biggest buyers of the US made weapons.

This is so true, i hope the indian members on PDF take it in consideration whenever singing the rhymes of the unloving uncle sam for selling them the red hot weapons .. . . . !!!
 
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The biggest concerned for Pakistan is Kashmir due to water and co-incidently the smoking gun for rise of all terrorist outfits. Fix that and you elimiate a root cause of trouble. For india it is self invented self inflicted "terrorist" and their "attacks".

The Indians need to behave less like stooges and come to reality with existence of Pakistan. Stop preaching that they lot a part of their akhand bharat in 1947 British departure in haste.

Until the Indian immaturity and goals to persue big brother in south asia as well total cultural domination does not end the tensions will remain high.
 
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The biggest concerned for Pakistan is Kashmir due to water and co-incidently the smoking gun for rise of all terrorist outfits. Fix that and you elimiate a root cause of trouble. For india it is self invented self inflicted "terrorist" and their "attacks".

The Indians need to behave less like stooges and come to reality with existence of Pakistan. Stop preaching that they lot a part of their akhand bharat in 1947 British departure in haste.

Until the Indian immaturity and goals to persue big brother in south asia as well total cultural domination does not end the tensions will remain high.

Yup. Indians today still insist that Pakistan belongs to them. They make me laugh....Indians have been BRAINWASHED by their Hindu Fundamentalist Teachers who are nothing but HATEMONGERS.
 
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Yup. Indians today still insist that Pakistan belongs to them. They make me laugh....Indians have been BRAINWASHED by their Hindu Fundamentalist Teachers who are nothing but HATEMONGERS.

Are you high? I am yet to meet an Indian who thinks Pakistan belongs to India. All fundamentalists are hatemongers - am yet to meet a fundamentalist who is secular...so what's your point?
 
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I think we're fine with Uncle Sam and keep one-arm-distance friendship with them. Their obsession with balancing the sub-continent makes them unreliable and should encourage us to be ready to get anything. The Herc deal is a recent example.
 
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I think we're fine with Uncle Sam and keep one-arm-distance friendship with them. Their obsession with balancing the sub-continent makes them unreliable and should encourage us to be ready to get anything. The Herc deal is a recent example.

Because the only country with birth right to super power should be india right?? well get it straight the america do need to keep balance of power of they want something useful out of central asia. The chinese wont let them have it and so do russian. Unless the american accecpt a collaborated effort with Pakistan and China both. Wait till obama loosens the strings and uncle sam weapons start to flow into China. They will harras the hell out of Indian Acrobatics Force day and night. Better get back to flying those trainers. With half the population under povert, its not difficult to buy mercinaries in India and you doubt thousand of dalits sneaking into Karachi are just there to make fast buck?? Well we learned the lesson from 1971 now our time to turn the guns??

Super powers do not support their potential adversaries otherwise Russia and China would be hands joined together with uncle sam.
 
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Are you high? I am yet to meet an Indian who thinks Pakistan belongs to India. All fundamentalists are hatemongers - am yet to meet a fundamentalist who is secular...so what's your point?

just visit some RSS or BJP rallies!

Btw, here is some indian orange terrorist. A female too since india has shortage of mardangi!

 
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Yup. Indians today still insist that Pakistan belongs to them. They make me laugh....Indians have been BRAINWASHED by their Hindu Fundamentalist Teachers who are nothing but HATEMONGERS.

Actually i wanted to ask few questions from Pakistanis and i feel this moment is apt.

If pakistanis believe and propagate their ancestry as Arab then what right do they/you have to cut others nation into half ? I mean Arabs came to Indian subcontinent long after Hindus were already settled.

What right Pakistan(is) have to support freedom of Kashmir if those lands originally belonged to Hindus ? Now that Muslims are in majority and they threw minority Hindus and Sikhs out of state doesn't mean that they own Kashmir right ? If no, then Pakistan reserves no right to criticize Israel who is in same boat.

Last year, i read interesting conversation between gpit and A1khaid. gpit take was that since xinjing originally was inhabited by Han Chinese so East Turkestan independence movement is terrorist organization. If you think about it, every Chinese claim is based on same argument. So isn't it hypocritical for Pakistan to support Kashmir and criticize Israel while having China as an ally ?
 
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Yup. Indians today still insist that Pakistan belongs to them. They make me laugh....Indians have been BRAINWASHED by their Hindu Fundamentalist Teachers who are nothing but HATEMONGERS.

Yup. He's high.

Dude, we are terrified at the thought of taking over your problems. Us Hindoos are way too busy doing our own s*** to want to 'take over' Pakistan.

You, and your country, need help.
 
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just visit some RSS or BJP rallies!

Btw, here is some indian orange terrorist. A female too since india has shortage of mardangi!

YouTube - Brave Hindu Girl Speaks Out Against The Violence And Intimidation of Islam And Pakistan
Oh my goodness! It is you again with rally postings. I can highlight many similar YouTube videos that highlight people screaming for violence against "Kafir Indians".

But then again you'd blame it as a "RAW-MOSSAD conspiracy" so there's no point. We got our right wing just like you have yours. Besides, our right wing isn't being leaked around by Wikileaks, alarming the world of some impending threat from south Asia. None of our nationalist agencies have a record of 92,000 documents of inciting terror and supporting dangerous armed terrorists... if you get what I mean :toast_sign:.

This Hindu girl seems to be speaking at least not like the 60 Hindus that were beaten up evicted for using a "Muslims only" water fountain in Pakistan. She's not causing any harm and has the right to speak. If you have all the right to support and arm anyone that you feel is right then so do we Indians have.

Intolerance is a two way road as is tolerance and until you get that, it isn't going to be a smooth sailing.

Mainstream Hindus are at least a noticeable minority in Pakistan. I shudder to think what would be happening to Buddhists (if at all any are left). :sick:
 
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