UN Security Council (P5) Unspoken Superpower Requirements

[AugenBlick]

The theme of this thread I'd about India begging. But the mods changed my post from using the word "begging" to "asking". Maybe I should ask the mods to change it back.

Go ahead...... since mods are mostly pakistanis who got freedom from "Hindus"( who themselves got freedom from British via begging) I am sure they won't mind.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The theme of this thread I'd about India begging. But the mods changed my post from using the word "begging" to "asking". Maybe I should ask the mods to change it back.

No! You should try "begging" them. Since according to you in your own words, asking/seeking/protesting = begging

 

[Lux de Veritas]

India independence is a victory for Brahmins against the rest of population. Gandhi is a monster promoting caste system. With caste system which is euphemism for slavery, India has no place in security council.

In 1933, the British attempted to put in place something called the Poona Act. This would have, among other things, set aside affirmative action style reservations allowing Dalits and other low castes positions, including top positions, in government at all levels. There were also some more controversial aspects to it, but let’s leave it at that for now.

Dr. Ambedkar, the great Dalit leader who wrote India’s Constitution, wrote the Poona Act. However, many high caste Indian leaders protested this Act, and Gandhi went on a hunger strike, vowing to hunger strike until death of lower castes were allowed reserved positions in the Indian government. What a monster! A wild raging debate was set off in India, and tens of thousands of Dalits and other low castes were slaughtered in communal riots all across the land. The communal massacres were so bad that Ambedkar went to Gandhi and promised to remove his proposal, and Gandhi then ended his hunger strike. And Gandhi nearly died in his strike.

 

[Vyom]

India independence is a victory for Brahmins against the rest of population. Gandhi is a monster promoting caste system. With caste system which is euphemism for slavery, India has no place in security council.

In 1933, the British attempted to put in place something called the Poona Act. This would have, among other things, set aside affirmative action style reservations allowing Dalits and other low castes positions, including top positions, in government at all levels. There were also some more controversial aspects to it, but let’s leave it at that for now.

Dr. Ambedkar, the great Dalit leader who wrote India’s Constitution, wrote the Poona Act. However, many high caste Indian leaders protested this Act, and Gandhi went on a hunger strike, vowing to hunger strike until death of lower castes were allowed reserved positions in the Indian government. What a monster! A wild raging debate was set off in India, and tens of thousands of Dalits and other low castes were slaughtered in communal riots all across the land. The communal massacres were so bad that Ambedkar went to Gandhi and promised to remove his proposal, and Gandhi then ended his hunger strike. And Gandhi nearly died in his strike.

There was a Poona Pact not act. and it was done to annul Macdonald Award giving separate electorate to Dalits for electing members of state legislative assemblies in British India. Why you knoiw because a certain people of a religion got the separate electorates and that resulted in the partition of India. History is not your cup of tea. Go jump in the sea. (poetry is not mine)

 

[mike2000 is back]

Your post simply shows your, "ignorance, arrogance, hateful and butthurt" attitude.

Last but not the least, "begging" attitude. Lol...

Why are you bothering dude? Let them keep pleading with the P5 and screaming publicly all over the place every now and then how they ' deserve' it, lets see where it takes them.

All i know is that if there is any country we would even consider n the first place its Germany and maybe Japan. The rest are wayyyy behind everything.

 

[mike2000 is back]

France, perhaps, although they also paid dearly, and more importantly, they were on the winning camp. The rest did their part of fighting pretty well, although, I would say, US was the luckiest because they joined late but determined heavily the end of the war.

And their homeland remained unscathed.

Dont mind him. He is just butthurt. They were under us that period, so we are representing them anyway. Dont see why they are worrying themselves.

 

[Srinivas]

Retard minds cannot understand non-violent movements.... How on earth is Non-cooperation movement and Quit India movement was ever "begging"?

Indian independence movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Have you ever seen a movie Gandhi... You really feel the people are beggars??

Ah forget, you can never understand!


Till the time it is risen and be a bad ***..... STFU and do the work...

I love the Israeli in this, they seldom don't care and they keep concentrating on themselves.

Use you medications and don't act stupid by giving suggestions to me.

Use burnool for burns, still if you cannot control your butt hurt .... then try some thing else but do not give advises to others, they won't listen and it will only increase your hurt !

 

[Mr.Nair]

What UN Security council perm membership? Its only US and USSR before cold war matters, rest of the 3 are just for name sake.Means, rest 3 hold the power but there opinion or influence hardly matters on world stage for all these years.

Now situation is different as of the collapse of Soviet Union.

 

[AugenBlick]

we are representing them anyway.

Try saying that to his face IRL.

 

[Gibbs]

Ancient proverb.

You cannot win on paper what you have not won on the battlefield.

I'd update that and say you cant win on paper or on online forums..

 

[Vyom]

Also India is world biggest and most fcuk up aggressor with the help and tacit approval of USA. Until she let Manipur, Nagaland, AP, Kashmir, Hyderabad go free, she should be relegated to axis of evil.

What ever you are smoking, some high quality stuff, let it go it impedes brain function. However go read History. and yes false flagging hasn't helped.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

What ever you are smoking, some high quality stuff, let it go it impedes brain function. However go read History. and yes false flagging hasn't helped.

That guy has received over 50 negative ratings , i think the highest on pdf, yet no change in his posts

 

[Mr.Nair]

You are right to some extent, however its only India that seems to be obssesed about begging every major country its prime minister visits about 'deserving' a seat in UNSC P5. You won't hear German and Japanese P.M/leaders making such claims in every major country they visit. They know there is no point. There are other better ways of doing that. Moreover Germany and Japan 'deserve' a seat farrrrr more than India can ever dream of, since there is no single one field India is ahead of/leads these two countries, yet they have still not been offered a seat despite being technologically advanced/highly developed/strong/solid western allied countries. What makes you think India who doesnt meet any of the above will be given one instead?

To be honest, your P.M ought to stop this childish behaviour. He is making his country look weak/begging. He can do this much better by being discreet and bargain behind close doors with P5 members.

Interesting most advanced, developed blah blah then Singapore should be also in UN sec permanent member.India is having highest electricity producer,consumer ,highest oil consumer,highest military power even though a major arms importer,highest gdp ppp, even though gdp nominal matters,highest contributor for UN peace keeping force,highest kee producer sectors like cement,coal,steel(will overtake japan by 2016) etc,highest of many agricultural products,highest gdp growth rate,highest overseas population than Germany or Japan.Buddy too much chest thumping....

 

[Vyom]

That guy has received over 50 negative ratings , i think the highest on pdf, yet no change in his posts

Quality of debate isn't high here yet barring of a few posters. so, i guess they keep him as bait. Damn I fell for it.

On topic : Security Council seat is a long way but India has to lay a claim for it. Without VETO it is just decorative. However I am of the opinion that No nation or a group of Nations will let go or divulge such a power of UNSC permanent seat unless a major global shake up happens. We are a part of the post WW2 world order,and it will remain so for some time. There is no alternative to this the scope of power reorganization unless that happens, needs a deeper understanding of the Westphalian peace, that is the cornerstone of the present world order. Henry Kissinger's World Order & Diplomacy offers great brutal insights.

BTW USA is the only super power currently and it will stay that way for a long long time. Unless some Dolt becomes US president. The UN in my view has been (more or less) a useless tool.

 

[Mr.Nair]

I can also say that india is having highest number of billionaires,largest consumer of gold,highest remittance figure than japan,germany blah blah because i am not a troll like u

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