UN Arms Embargo against Iran is lifting!!

[mangekyo]

What’s this fuss all about? There are no EU sanctions either, but no EU country dares to trade with us over fears of US sanctions. No one cares about U.N. sanctions anyways. Don’t be stupid.

 

[raptor22]

What’s this fuss all about? There are no EU sanctions either, but no EU country dares to trade with us over fears of US sanctions. No one cares about U.N. sanctions anyways. Don’t be stupid.

EU sanctions & arms embargo would remain till 2023.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

What’s this fuss all about? There are no EU sanctions either, but no EU country dares to trade with us over fears of US sanctions. No one cares about U.N. sanctions anyways. Don’t be stupid.

No worries. Trump will be gone come January 4, 2021. Biden is pro Iran.

 

[raptor22]

No worries. Trump will be gone come January 4, 2021. Biden is pro Iran.

There is a saying in Persian which says : "Yellow dog is jackal's brother" which means both are the same shit.

 

[mangekyo]

EU sanctions & arms embargo would remain till 2023.

I mean there are no EU sanctions on normal trade since JCPOA. But no EU country trades with us because US tells them not to. So what different does no U.N. sanctions make? Who is gonna sell us any kind of weapons when US tells them not to? Russia like with s300?

No worries. Trump will be gone come January 4, 2021. Biden is pro Iran.

But the deep state is not. Trump was also “pro Iran” before he ran as a presidential candidate

 

[raptor22]

I mean there are no EU sanctions on normal trade since JCPOA. But no EU country trades with us because US tells them not to. So what different does no U.N. sanctions make? Who is gonna sell us any kind of weapons when US tells them not to? Russia like with s300?
But the deep state is not. Trump was also “pro Iran” before he ran as a presidential candidate

Well that's true but unilateral sanctions ain't as effective as the UN sanctions that's why american are desperately after sabotaging Ndeal ,which is backed by the UNSCR 2231, as it gives them first a various of options like article 42 to use coercion & opportunity to justify it under legal pretexts .. on the other hand any move that could make a failure in american quest to margin Iran is appreciated even a minor one so no U.N. sanctions makes a whole different.
Besides it ain't all about buying but selling ..we could sell and make money.

 

[Aspen]

To be honest Pakistan should take full advantage of UN lifting embargo to sell Iran dozens of JF-17's in exchange for drone and missile technology

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

To be honest Pakistan should take full advantage of UN lifting embargo to sell Iran dozens of JF-17's in exchange for drone and missile technology

JF-17 is suitable for replacing F-5 in Iran air force.

 

[Hack-Hook]

To be honest Pakistan should take full advantage of UN lifting embargo to sell Iran dozens of JF-17's in exchange for drone and missile technology

well as i said a light fighter won't meet Iranian needs . even we didn'y wanted J-10c what we need is something heavier to complement our F-14 fleet

JF-17 is suitable for replacing F-5 in Iran air force.

we like to play with our F-5 and see what we can do with them. at the end I'm sure we replace them with something Iranian

 

[Philosopher]

International law means little to nations. In the world we live, nations pursue their interest, if that means breaking some arbitrary rules and regulation i.e UN laws, then you bet they will. When was the last time a nation like the US sacrificed its interest in the name of such laws? These laws such as UN embargo are in practise only symbolic, however the lifting of such embargo will make it more likely for Iran to be able to sell its weapons on the global market. But keep in mind, it is the US secondary sanctions that are the real hindrance.

 

[StormBreaker]

If UN Arms Embargo on Iran is lifted, Saudi Arabia and UAE would directly be affected.
Considering USA has already started to move some of their equipment from SA.
SA would be heavily leaning on Pakistan for support.

Pakistan is in a great position to get maximum benefits from the Arabs. This time not for peanuts but for substantial stakes in the region. We have to stand up and rise up.
How long we have to take orders from SA and UAE !!

This is also time to counter Indian influence in the Middle East.

The problem is our Politicians are extremely incompetent. They don't have the foresight or the planning and implementation skills to formulate and execute a cohesive and comprehensive policy in the Middle East.

We just respond to the crisis, rather than have our strategies in place

@MastanKhan

Another Yemen scenario in the making ?
Pakistani Gov however is apparently quite Fearful of Iran.
Unfortunately, They wouldn’t do anything that would displease the “Irani step brothers”....

Although @crankthatskunk , You are over exaggerating the USA moving away from KSA, That won’t happen so easily, not in the foreseeable future. The area is strategically very important for USA, USA instead of moving out could negotiate with KSA into paying them more and more to stay in KSA.

Business is a bad game, That is why politicians shouldn’t have a business background.

I personally wish if even a small grey area is created for Pakistan to step up its relation with KSA this way, They must do it, In the end, Middle east matters more than Iran, Since Jadavs come from Iran...

@Mangus Ortus Novem Hazrat, Your input is appreciated

 

[mangekyo]

Well that's true but unilateral sanctions ain't as effective as the UN sanctions that's why american are desperately after sabotaging Ndeal ,which is backed by the UNSCR 2231, as it gives them first a various of options like article 42 to use coercion & opportunity to justify it under legal pretexts .. on the other hand any move that could make a failure in american quest to margin Iran is appreciated even a minor one so no U.N. sanctions makes a whole different.
Besides it ain't all about buying but selling ..we could sell and make money.

It’s just going to be a symbolic victory with to practical meaning. Nothing will change. Selling our weapons gives the enemy an opportunity to study their weaknesses and take advantage of them. Better we don’t sell weapons. Especially missiles, drones, AD and EW systems

 

[Philosopher]

Selling our weapons gives the enemy an opportunity to study their weaknesses and take advantage of them. Better we don’t sell weapons. Especially missiles, drones, AD and EW systems

Following this line of thought, then why do the likes of Russia, China and America sell their systems? No nations will sell its most up to date and guarded secrets. Iran must start to export its system, that is one of the main ways its arms industry will grown in size and quality. Not to mention the revenues Iran can get from this sector.

 

[Indos]

well as i said a light fighter won't meet Iranian needs . even we didn'y wanted J-10c what we need is something heavier to complement our F-14 fleet


we like to play with our F-5 and see what we can do with them. at the end I'm sure we replace them with something Iranian

How about CN 235 MPA or ASW from Indonesia ? Look like you dont have any MPA and ASW plane so far ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

CN 235 MPA

you are welcome try to get permission from uncle sam to sell Iran that air plane with this engine
General Electric CT7-9C3 turboprops and Honeywell avionics.
by the way I hope we find an engine more suitable for Iran climate and again develop ir-140 for that role as it was the plan from the start.