Ukraine tells EU leaders: Prepare for war with Russia

[Darius77]

Anyone with even basic understanding of Russian history will know that Ukraine or Kievan-Rus is the heart of Russia historically. All important Russian historical events and even Orthodox religion started there. It is Putin's confused policies and mixed signals in the latent Don Bas conflict after the annexation of Crimea has emboldened the US and NATO lapdogs to now entrench themselves in Russia's front yard and plan aggression against Russia itself.

The deluded and ignorant West must understand that, to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country. Russian history began in what was called Kievan-Rus. The Russian religion spread from there. Ukraine has been part of Russia for centuries, and their histories were intertwined before then. Some of the most important battles for Russian freedom, starting with the Battle of Poltava in 1709 , were fought on Ukrainian soil. The Soviets and Russians defeated the Nazis on Ukrainian soil.

The Black Sea Fleet — Russia’s means of projecting power in the Mediterranean — since Peter the Great asserted Russian power south has been based at Sevastopol, in Crimea on the Black Sea, Russia's gateway to warmer waters via Mediterranean. Even such famed dissidents as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine was an integral part of Russian history and, indeed, of Russia. There is still substantial support of Russia even in Ukrainian urban areas. Western meddling in Ukraine and using it for proxy conflict to Balkanize Russia and Belarus will only result in blowback. NATO is basically using the large Jew population in Ukraine as a fight column to fan Russophobia and also in propaganda war against the Slavic Russians.

 

[tower9]

Anyone with even basic understanding of Russian history will know that Ukraine or Kievan-Rus is the heart of Russia historically. All important Russian historical events and even Orthodox religion started there. It is Putin's confused policies and mixed signals in the latent Don Bas conflict after the annexation of Crimea has emboldened the US and NATO lapdogs to now entrench themselves in Russia's front yard and plan aggression against Russia itself.

The deluded and ignorant West must understand that, to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country. Russian history began in what was called Kievan-Rus. The Russian religion spread from there. Ukraine has been part of Russia for centuries, and their histories were intertwined before then. Some of the most important battles for Russian freedom, starting with the Battle of Poltava in 1709 , were fought on Ukrainian soil. The Soviets and Russians defeated the Nazis on Ukrainian soil.

The Black Sea Fleet — Russia’s means of projecting power in the Mediterranean — since Peter the Great asserted Russian power south has been based at Sevastopol, in Crimea on the Black Sea, Russia's gateway to warmer waters via Mediterranean. Even such famed dissidents as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine was an integral part of Russian history and, indeed, of Russia. There is still substantial support of Russia even in Ukrainian urban areas. Western meddling in Ukraine and using it for proxy conflict to Balkanize Russia and Belarus will only result in blowback. NATO is basically using the large Jew population in Ukraine as a fight column to fan Russophobia and also in propaganda war against the Slavic Russians.

Absolutely. That is why I think it is crazy that Russia allowed Belarus and the Ukraine to become independent countries. The other Soviet Republics, I can understand, but these two countries are literally part of the soul of Russia.

 

[MH.Yang]

Why not? It is much better to be more gamed and invite allies if it is to your benefit at the end the states does what benetifs

No, we can't accept foreign troops staying in China for a long time.
In 1958, the relationship between China and the USSR broke down for two reasons. First, the USSR asked to send troops to build a long wave radio station on China's Hainan Island. Second, the USSR demanded the formation of a China-USSR Union Joint Fleet in Dalian, China. Unable to accept the long-term presence of foreign troops in China, the Chinese govt rejected the two demands of the Soviet Union, which led to the USSR is announcement of breaking off diplomatic relations with China.
When Nixon visited China in 1972, China and the USA resumed diplomatic relations. It has a very important prerequisite. The USA agrees not to deploy Marines in the U.S. Embassy, but only some unofficial security guards. U.S. embassies around the world have deployed Marines, except China. Because the Chinese do not accept foreign troops staying in China for a long time.

 

[Darius77]

Absolutely. That is why I think it is crazy that Russia allowed Belarus and the Ukraine to become independent countries. The other Soviet Republics, I can understand, but these two countries are literally part of the soul of Russia.

Exactly, they are same Slavic people, just like Taiwan or Formosa is an integral part of China. However, China has made its policy crystal clear that Taiwan will be unified, one way or another, hopefully peacefully. The US warmongers only understand the language of strength.

The western warmongers are facing irreversible decline and see Russia as an easy target due to the large number of Jew 5th column. China's has huge advantage due to its homogeneous population and strong leadership backed by a strong PLA and the largest economy. The US criminals have installed a corrupt Jew clown Zelenskyy (he is literally a comedian) to instigate conflict against Russia. Putin's waffling on support for the Donetsk People's Republic only emboldened the west. The devious British backstabbing b@stards and their Zionist masters are the ones really pushing the NATO agenda on this. Now NATO is firmly entrenched in all the ex-Baltic Soviet Republics, Poland and Romania and actively pushing for the destabilization of Russia with an eye on gaining control of Belarus, further isolating Russia.

 

[tower9]

Exactly, they are same Slavic people, just like Taiwan or Formosa is an integral part of China. However, China has made its policy crystal clear that Taiwan will be unified, one way or another, hopefully peacefully. The US warmongers only understand the language of strength.

The western warmongers are facing irreversible decline and see Russia as an easy target due to the large number of Jew 5th column. China's has huge advantage due to its homogeneous population and strong leadership backed by a strong PLA and the largest economy. The US criminals have installed a corrupt Jew clown Zelenskyy (he is literally a comedian) to instigate conflict against Russia. Putin's waffling on support for the Donetsk People's Republic only emboldened the west. The devios British backstabbing b@stards and their Zionist masters are the ones really pushing the NATO agenda on this. Now NATO is firmly entrenched in all the ex-Baltic Soviet Republics, Poland and Romania and actively pushing for the destabilization of Russia with an eye on gaining control of Belarus, further isolating Russia.

Totally agree. In fact, I would say that Ukraine and Belarus are more integral to Russia's core identity than Taiwan is to China, as Taiwan was historically populated by Austronesian peoples and was only settled by Han peoples and integrated into China in the 1600s, while the Ukraine is like the fountain for all Slavic peoples and the Russian nation. It would be like China losing the Northern plains to some hostile foreign country. Unimaginable.

China's homogeneity really helps it in eliminating fifth columnists for sure.

 

[tower9]

Exactly, they are same Slavic people, just like Taiwan or Formosa is an integral part of China. However, China has made its policy crystal clear that Taiwan will be unified, one way or another, hopefully peacefully. The US warmongers only understand the language of strength.

The western warmongers are facing irreversible decline and see Russia as an easy target due to the large number of Jew 5th column. China's has huge advantage due to its homogeneous population and strong leadership backed by a strong PLA and the largest economy. The US criminals have installed a corrupt Jew clown Zelenskyy (he is literally a comedian) to instigate conflict against Russia. Putin's waffling on support for the Donetsk People's Republic only emboldened the west. The devious British backstabbing b@stards and their Zionist masters are the ones really pushing the NATO agenda on this. Now NATO is firmly entrenched in all the ex-Baltic Soviet Republics, Poland and Romania and actively pushing for the destabilization of Russia with an eye on gaining control of Belarus, further isolating Russia.

This is an interesting video about the origin of the Slavs. Also interesting is that proto-Iranic peoples were occupying most of the Ukraine in ancient times as well.

 

[Beidou2020]

Russia need to absorb Ukraine and Belarus into Russia.

 

[Darius77]

Russia need to absorb Ukraine and Belarus into Russia.

That is the only strategic logical option. They are same people and Ukraine and Belarus can't survive on their own and will only invite aggression and destabilization from the US and NATO hyenas.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Why Europe didn't do anything earlier?
This is a flashpoint for sure.

 

[Xerxes22]

One is NATO? Do I even need to explain this? But good that you have just found it out welcome back to the world

I dont receive welcomes from NATO supporters like u. You support Turkey and azerbhaijan hence u are a NATO supporter.

 

[Titanium100]

I dont receive welcomes from NATO supporters like u. You support Turkey and azerbhaijan hence u are a NATO supporter.

O'right my Pashtun friend who believes in pan-iranism..

 

[QWECXZ]

They will support Ukraine morally and maybe even donate military weapons but they will not send army to fight Russia, this is because if Russia is defeated then it will affect many other nations aswell. Countries like Iran, Syria, Iraq, China, North Korea, Belarus, members of SCO, Eurasian Economic Union will not accept Russia being attacked by the west, these countries will help Russia financially and military.

I understand your point on EU being smoked but Russia believes if the EU entere Ukraine, then they will slowly take away other nations towards EU and away from Russia, this is why Crimea was overtaken, Russia also needs to prove a point that they are not to be messed with.

Iran does not recognize the annexation of the Crimea by Russia.
We are not going to side with Russia if they attack Ukraine. However, if a war happens between Russia and the West, which is extremely unlikely, it is clear that we will side with Russia for our own interests. But Russia doesn't even need our help to defeat Ukraine.

The sad truth is that Ukraine will be defeated in just 3 weeks at most, and Russia will then never return the Crimea or regions they will occupy in the war. And the Westerners will just sit idle, being useless, just like the Georgian-Russian war over Abkhazia where Russian forces were approaching Tbilisi and the US and European powers just sat there issuing statements of condemnation.

 

[MH.Yang]

Iran does not recognize the annexation of the Crimea by Russia.
We are not going to side with Russia if they attack Ukraine. However, if a war happens between Russia and the West, which is extremely unlikely, it is clear that we will side with Russia for our own interests. But Russia doesn't even need our help to defeat Ukraine.

The sad truth is that Ukraine will be defeated in just 3 weeks at most, and Russia will then never return the Crimea or regions they will occupy in the war. And the Westerners will just sit idle, being useless, just like the Georgian-Russian war over Abkhazia where Russian forces were approaching Tbilisi and the US and European powers just sat there issuing statements of condemnation.

China also does not recognize Russia's sovereignty over Crimea.
Because if a region can legally join another country by voting, the world will become very chaotic. Russia's action is clearly a violation of international rules.
Although China does not agree with Russia's sovereignty over Crimea, China opposes UN sanctions against Russia and will not join any sanctions against Russia. Because China believes that sanctions cannot solve the problem, China suggests that Ukraine and Russia resolve the dispute through negotiations.

 

[Titanium100]

Iran does not recognize the annexation of the Crimea by Russia.
We are not going to side with Russia if they attack Ukraine. However, if a war happens between Russia and the West, which is extremely unlikely, it is clear that we will side with Russia for our own interests. But Russia doesn't even need our help to defeat Ukraine.

The sad truth is that Ukraine will be defeated in just 3 weeks at most, and Russia will then never return the Crimea or regions they will occupy in the war. And the Westerners will just sit idle, being useless, just like the Georgian-Russian war over Abkhazia where Russian forces were approaching Tbilisi and the US and European powers just sat there issuing statements of condemnation.

If they sit idle? It would be a major miscalculation on their part the consequences and outfall would be to significiant for bruxelles. It would theoretically mean the end of the EU as union. It would be the beginning of the end.

1. All this countries such Poland, Romania, the 3 Baltic states, Finland, Chezh Republic, Hungary, Slovakia and the rest of East Europe will break rank if Ukraine is streamrolled by Russia. Nobody wants to becoming the next expendables and they will view the EU as joke.

2. Everyone ones protection and they will seek that from Moscow instead of bruxelles leaving behind bruxelles. To put it short the entire dynamic of Europe will change and it would be unrecognizable.

3. Europe will be ruled from Moscow not bruxelles.. Once the fearful ones break rank and change sides for their own protection the remaining will also break rank for protection Italy and Spain will break rank the only ones who will remain without breaking rank would be France, Germany and UK the remaining will break rank.

4. Russia will take over of Europe in such situation and Europe is alot more fragile than people assume. Ukraine means more than just territory if Russia gets Ukraine and they sit idle it is over for them period Russia will know this that they have folded

 

[QWECXZ]

If they sit idle? It would be a major miscalculation on their part the consequences and outfall would be to significiant for bruxelles. It would theoretically mean the end of the EU as union. It would be the beginning of the end.

1. All this countries such Poland, Romania, the 3 Baltic states, Finland, Chezh Republic, Slovakia and the rest of East Europe will break rank if Ukraine is streamrolled by Russia.

2. Everyone ones protection and they will seek that from Moscow instead of bruxelles leaving behind bruxelles. To put it short the entire dynamic of Europe will change and it would be unrecognizable.

3. Europe will be ruled from Moscow not bruxelles.. Once the fearful ones break rank and swift sides for their own protection the remaining will also break rank for protection Italy will break rank the only ones who will remain without breaking rank would be France, Germany and UK the remaining will break rank.

4. Russia will take over of Europe in such situation and Europe is alot more fragile than people assume. Ukraine means more than just territory if Russia gets Ukraine and they sit idle it is over for them period Russia will know this that they have folded

Why do you think they have blocked Ukraine's request to join the NATO for such a long time?
Exactly! Because they do not intend to defend Ukraine.