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[tower9]

We all agree that a new Middle East war is not in the interests of Iranians. But we need not be so pessimistic. The Chinese believe that war is always the last means to achieve the goal, and winning without war is the best way to win.
I think there is another possibility. Iran can strive to maintain peace and the status quo, concentrate on economic development, improve people's lives, eliminate internal contradictions, and patiently wait for major changes in the world situation. There has never been an empire without decline in human history, and the USA is no exception. If Israel loses the military assistance and support of the USA, it will not be invincible.
The Chinese believe in the inevitability and contingency of history. There are major problems in the internal system of the United States. Like all empires in history, it is historical inevitability for the United States to decline (of course, China will also decline one day), and it is historical inevitability for the world to move towards a multipolar era. It is a historical accident that wars occur in this process, such as the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. Iran should follow the tide of the times, develop its economy, repair its diplomatic relations with its neighbors, not use force easily, wait patiently for the opportunity, restore the glory of Persian civilization and become a pole of the world.

China has risen and fallen many times in its history. Today is probably the 6th or 7th time China has risen again as a great empire. Most Chinese are well educated about history and constantly refer to it. Far more than Americans, most of whom are largely ahistorical and they think that today will last forever.

Iranians have also had a long history with many turns. They should know.

 

[MH.Yang]

Not really. A victory for Iran is considered a situation where our enemies are depleted so much after the war that they will leave us alone. Surely, we will be severely damaged too. An Iranian victory in a potential conflict with the United States would be that some of their naval forces would go down, most Arab states fighting against us would lose vital infrastructure not to really change the balance of power in the region, and at the end, they would leave us alone.

Look at the British, for example. They were a headache for us because of oil until they stopped bothering us whatsoever. But this is another matter that can be discussed in a separate thread.

Indeed. The best option is not always the same and it can change rapidly based on new conditions. The majority of Iranians do not care about who rules Iran, but care about the interests of Iran. My avatar right now is a former diplomat that served during the time of Shah and passed away today and he openly supported Qasem Soleimani and called for expanding our nuclear program against the West.

Frankly, Iran's geopolitical situation is not good. But is 2020s-Iran worse than 1960a-China? At that time, China was hostile to the two superpowers of the USA and the USSR, and 12 million people died of famine in China. DPRK betrayed China and fell to the USSR, and kicked Indians a2s. It can be said that the whole world is an enemy and all coutry is full of hungry people. So what? 60 years later, we can still revive Chinese civilization.
Iranians are also descendants of a great ancient civilization. They do not lack wisdom.

 

[QWECXZ]

Frankly, Iran's geopolitical situation is not good. But is 2020s-Iran worse than 1960a-China? At that time, China was hostile to the two superpowers of the USA and the USSR, and 12 million people died of famine in China. DPRK betrayed China and fell to the USSR, and kicked Indians a2s. It can be said that the whole world is an enemy and all coutry is full of hungry people. So what? 60 years later, we can still revive Chinese civilization.
Iranians are also descendants of a great ancient civilization. They do not lack wisdom.

We have had worse times. Imagine the 18th century, for example. The Tsarist Russian empire at the height of its power (and later the Soviet Union) in the north, the Ottoman empire in the west, the British empire in the west, the south and the east. And we survived. We did lose territory, but as a nation we survived and developed and changed on our own, unlike most other countries in our neighborhood.

 

[Stranagor]

The only thing that is on the line is the supposed invincibility of NATO. That it can keep invading others spaces with no recourse. They are afraid that this aura of invincibility will be shattered and then member states, most of whom are weak little beta countries, would feel some insecurity that their alpha wolf is not as strong as they thought.

This is the problem with overreach. When you have so much hubris you start making huge mistakes. NATO should've been satisfied with its original form and then the sense of invincibility would not have been lost.

This may even undermine the pseudo NATO the US is trying to build in the Asia-Pacific region.

 

[MH.Yang]

China has risen and fallen many times in its history. Today is probably the 6th or 7th time China has risen again as a great empire. Most Chinese are well educated about history and constantly refer to it. Far more than Americans, most of whom are largely ahistorical and they think that today will last forever.

Iranians have also had a long history with many turns. They should know.

China has risen and fallen many times in its history. Today is probably the 6th or 7th time China has risen again as a great empire. Most Chinese are well educated about history and constantly refer to it. Far more than Americans, most of whom are largely ahistorical and they think that today will last forever.

Iranians have also had a long history with many turns. They should know.

Yes, great civilizations are always persevering, it will be reborn in the ashes again and again like a Phoenix. Chinese philosophy holds that a person's wealth created is the realization of his social cognition. A nation's achievement is the realization of its historical development cognition.