Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead: agency

[Strigon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/490028698364436480

Still the outrage is not as significant as it should be. Like protests, news interviews, day of mourning etc

 

[Vassnti]

Still the outrage is not as significant as it should be. Like protests, news interviews, day of mourning etc

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott described the attack as an horrific act that “raises the stakes” in the dispute between Russia and the Ukraine, saying the Russia wanted to “stir up trouble” and that the likely attackers were “Russian proxies”. He said Russia was involved in an “outrageous” attempt to bully a neighbour.

Flags will be flown at half-mast across Australia tomorrow. Abbott also announced there would be a National Day of Mourning.

Australia Plans A National Day Of Mourning For The 28 Citizens Lost In The Ukraine Passenger Jet Disaster That Killed 298 | Business Insider

 

[Strigon]

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott described the attack as an horrific act that “raises the stakes” in the dispute between Russia and the Ukraine, saying the Russia wanted to “stir up trouble” and that the likely attackers were “Russian proxies”. He said Russia was involved in an “outrageous” attempt to bully a neighbour.

Flags will be flown at half-mast across Australia tomorrow. Abbott also announced there would be a National Day of Mourning.

Yeah well, I'm talking about Malaysian side in particular.

Speaking of Tony Abbott, I saw this video. Like....he is kinda weird.

 

[senheiser]

2nd tragedy this year for Malaysian Airline

and for Boeing 777

 

[Oldman1]

Based on these transcripts, it was accidental shoot down of what they thought was a Ukrainian transport plane. Not deliberate. And based on Putin's response where he blamed Ukraine for the war that led to the destruction of the plane. Not blaming Ukraine for shooting it down. He knows it was the separatists' fault.

 

[MarkusS]

This ***** even has the guts to "pray" for the people he personal murdered:

This is an insult for the victims and their families. Look how they stand there, trying to make a sad face.

I don´t care if Putler and his crooks wanted this or not. Fact is that it happened. This is basicly a decleration of war against the EU. Against the USA. Against Australia, Against Indonesia, Against Malaysia.

I fully agree with the voices in our government who want isolate russia. And this act of terror will not be unanswered.

We already placed hard sanctions on them. This allows to take much bigger steps. Putin has become a persona non grata. He will never gain any support in the west again. The band is broken.

And this terror regime want host the next world cup? He can say good bye to that.

 

[asad71]

Close Shave for Modi & Putin

NEW DELHI: While the world struggles to come to terms with the shooting down of the Malaysian passenger aircraft that killed 298 passengers and crew over Ukraine, it has come to light that the Air India flight carrying Prime Minister Narendra Modi was on the same path as the MH17 Boeing 777, a report in The Hindu newspaper has claimed.



The newspaper reported that the prime minister’s flight back to India was rerouted after the incident, in which 298 people died.

Modi’s flight – Air India 1 – had taken off from Frankfurt, Germany, about two hours before the Malaysian airliner was hit supposedly by a surface-to-air missile.

The report said that Modi’s flight would have flown over the same area only some minutes after the Malaysian passenger jet was shot down had it continued on the same flight path.

Meanwhile, it is being speculated that Russian President Vladimir Putin whose flight back to Moscow too was through the same route might have been the real target of the rebels who purportedly shot down the MH17.

Earlier, Putin blamed Ukraine for the incident saying that the nation bore responsibility for the downing of the Malaysian passenger plane and pointing out that it would not have happened if Kiev had not resumed a military campaign against separatists.

Probe demanded

World leaders demanded an international investigation into the shooting down of a Malaysian airliner over eastern Ukraine in which all 298 people on board were killed, a tragedy that could further heighten tensions between Russia and the West.

One US official said Washington strongly suspected a surface-to-air missile that downed the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on Thursday was fired by Ukrainian separatists backed by Moscow.

There was no evidence Ukrainian government forces fired a missile, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, speaking in Detroit, said the passenger jet was apparently "blown out of the sky".

More than 20 Australians were among the many nationalities aboard Flight MH17. The Netherlands was the worst affected, with 154 Dutch citizens on the downed plane.

The plane crashed near the village of Hrabove about 40 km (25 miles) from the border with Russia near the regional capital of Donetsk, an area that is a stronghold of rebels who have been fighting Ukrainian government forces for several months.

Ukraine accused pro-Moscow militants, aided by Russian military intelligence officers, of firing a long-range, Soviet-era SA-11 ground-to-air missile. Leaders of the rebel Donetsk People's Republic denied any involvement and said a Ukrainian air force jet had brought down the intercontinental flight.

Russian President Vladimir Putin - at loggerheads with the West over his policies toward Ukraine - pinned the blame on Kiev for renewing its offensive against rebels two weeks ago after a ceasefire failed to hold. The Kremlin leader called it a "tragedy" but did not say who brought the Boeing 777 down.

The loss of MH17 is the second for Malaysia Airlines this year, following the mysterious disappearance of Flight MH370 in March, which vanished with 239 passengers and crew on board on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

In Malaysia, there was a sense of disbelief that another airline disaster could strike so soon.

"If it transpires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must swiftly be brought to justice," Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak told a pre-dawn news conference in Kuala Lumpur.

"This is a tragic day, in what has already been a tragic year, for Malaysia."

National mourning in Netherlands

Reuters journalists saw burning and charred wreckage bearing the red and blue Malaysia Airlines insignia and dozens of bodies in fields near the village of Hrabove.

"I was working in the field on my tractor when I heard the sound of a plane and then a bang," one local man told Reuters at Hrabove, known in Russian as Grabovo. "Then I saw the plane hit the ground and break in two. There was thick black smoke."

An emergency worker said at least 100 bodies had been found so far and that debris was spread over 15 km (9 miles).

The airline said it was carrying 283 passengers and 15 crew.

The Netherlands declared a day of national mourning for its 154 dead. Twenty-eight passengers were Malaysian, 27 Australian, 12 Indonesian, nine British, four German, four Belgian, three Filipino and one Canadian. All 15 crew were Malaysian. Nationalities of the others aboard were unclear.

Ukrainian officials accused rebels of using a Soviet-era SA-11 missile system acquired from Russia - offering evidence that they may have believed they were firing on a Ukrainian military aircraft.

 

[Nike]

The list of Passengers who holding Indonesian Passports:

1. Hadiono Gunawan/man
2. Yodricunda Theistiasih/woman
3. Ketut Wiartini/woman
4. Yuli Hastini/woman
5. Vickline Kurniati Kardia/woman
6. Supartini/woman
7. Hendry/man
8. Gerda Leliana Lahenda/woman
9. Werther Smallenburg/man
10. Jane M Hadi Soetjipto/woman
11. Wayan Sujana/man
12. Clarice Yelena Huizen/infant
May Allah accept them in heaven


This is acts of terrorism, someone must pay this barbarism.

 

[HariPrasad]

Probably Russian thought it was Ukrainian military plane approaching Russia and shot it down.

Not Possible.

 

[rohailmalhi]

If it was not for Gaza, it would be either US economic meltdown, or Afghanistan, or Africa or Iran or NK or some other random events that take place. Conspiracy theorists just need to come up with something leaving aside the plain fact.

The fact is its an international known air corridor, the fact is rebels / fighters have taken down aircrafts just a few days ago. The fact is rebel leaders claimed it downed and then retreated when they knew they messed up, 295 people are dead and someone is the culprit and will pay and conspiraciess dont hold up in court.

thats y i called it a conspiracy theory ........

there are to many coincidences happening now a days...

 

[Chak Bamu]

As some sane analyst observed that it is EU/NATO over-reach that has precipitated this conflict and hence the present situation.

I can not but agree with this view. Rather than keep Ukraine as a buffer state and an enduring channel for EU-Russia balance, EU/NATO has ensured that Russians adopt unconventional strategy to deal with them. As far back as early 90s Ukraine was suspected to be the fault-line that would rupture one day.

Western narratives invariably prop own interests in guise of human rights, democracy, & freedoms of various sorts, via monopolizing coverage via CNN, BBC, etc... I've been seeing all this develop in Iraq, Syria, & now Ukraine. However you see it, at the end of the day, it is about money, influence, and cutting off future challenges. Any improvement in human rights, or democracy, or freedoms are purely incidental.

I am reminded of the incident of Shoe-tossing at Bush by a journalist in Baghdad in Dec 2008 (?). I was visiting USA back then. I was surprised to see common gullible Americans wondering why someone would do this to the US President since he had 'liberated' and 'freed' Iraqis.

The proverbial shoe necklace that seems ready to be hung around Putin's neck really is made in EU.

 

[HariPrasad]

It was Ukrainian who shot down Israel plane above Black Sea

How can i like the post to see the link?

 

[nair]

As some sane analyst observed that it is EU/NATO over-reach that has precipitated this conflict and hence the present situation.

I can not but agree with this view. Rather than keep Ukraine as a buffer state and an enduring channel for EU-Russia balance, EU/NATO has ensured that Russians adopt unconventional strategy to deal with them. As far back as early 90s Ukraine was suspected to be the fault-line that would rupture one day.

Western narratives invariably prop own interests in guise of human rights, democracy, & freedoms of various sorts, via monopolizing coverage via CNN, BBC, etc... I've been seeing all this develop in Iraq, Syria, & now Ukraine. However you see it, at the end of the day, it is about money, influence, and cutting off future challenges. Any improvement in human rights, or democracy, or freedoms are purely incidental.

I am reminded of the incident of Shoe-tossing at Bush by a journalist in Baghdad in Dec 2008 (?). I was visiting USA back then. I was surprised to see common gullible Americans wondering why someone would do this to the US President since he had 'liberated' and 'freed' Iraqis.

The proverbial shoe necklace that seems ready to be hung around Putin's neck really is made in EU.

Sad part of the story is, It was innocent civilians from other countries and an air craft of a far away nation who paid the price for this strategic game....I read somewhere there are about 18 similar cases, out of which 2 are done by Russia, 1 by US, 1 by Israel, ....

 

[Musafir117]

RIP
It's just madness

 

[Chak Bamu]

Sad part of the story is, It was innocent civilians from other countries and an air craft of a far away nation who paid the price for this strategic game....I read somewhere there are about 18 similar cases, out of which 2 are done by Russia, 1 by US, 1 by Israel, ....

Stuff like this was bound to happen sooner or later; always does. This is the world we live in my friend. Strategy always trumps humanity, unfortunately.