Ukraine Prepares For War. Troops on High Alert

[Star Wars]

now hear this..
there is news in the west that Russians were too optimistic about their support in Eastern Ukraine and their enthusiasm is fizzling out thats why Putin ordered his troops back in the Barracks

It was a military exercise which was scheduled to be ended today ,a lot of dis info is coming out from pro west media..

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Crimea and Ukraine is were Russia started, you would think a person like Putin would not want it back...

Putin is smart he is not ruthless like Sadam
he will be banking on the ethnic Russians in Ukraine
he knows that USA will give him wide berth and wont come guns blazing like it does on 3rd word countries with 3rd rate armies. but there are consequences economic ones.

whatever the result of this conflict
I say

Cold war is now officially resumed. I somehow find myself siding with Russia .. this unipolar world has really hurt many countries and made the Yanks go too easy on their triggers.

 

[vostok]

now hear this..
there is news in the west that Russians were too optimistic about their support in Eastern Ukraine and their enthusiasm is fizzling out thats why Putin ordered his troops back in the Barracks

Russian troops were nowhere except Crimea. Putin openly warned the West and junta which seized power - in the case of aggression against the Russian people, he reserves the right to send troops. It is his sacred right to defend compatriots - it can not be deprived from Putin by any Western leader. Even God does not take away this sacred right.
Besides, the junta began to reconsider it russophobian position - they realized that the West uses them and will not defend them.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Calm down people!

Russia is here to save you!

 

[Star Wars]

Putin is smart he is not ruthless like Sadam
he will be banking on the ethnic Russians in Ukraine
he knows that USA will give him wide berth and wont come guns blazing like it does on 3rd word countries with 3rd rate armies. but there are consequences economic ones.

whatever the result of this conflict
I say

Cold war is now officially resumed. I somehow find myself siding with Russia .. this unipolar world has really hurt many countries and made the Yanks go too easy on their triggers.

Thats what i said Earlier , Ukraine has a Budapest memorandum which allows Ukraine to be an independent nation , But if you start riling up the Pro Russian east to secede from Ukraine and form an independent state , then the Budapest Memorandum is invalid and Russia can gobble up / annex the parts of Eastern Ukraine , or what ever he wants..

 

[flamer84]

Its an open forum , if you don't like my opinions then put me on ignore list i.e if you cannot debate .. If he speaks Russian , if his ancestry is Russian , if his heart is Russian then he is Russian..quite simple A bunch of words "Oath of allegiance" does not change that ...

It sounds like you have an ethnic hate for Russians .. the only thing sickening is your rather unfortunate attitude on person you have no clue about other than being hurt from his posts . Don't like his opinion ?...call him a traitor , call him names, personally attack him, wish his life destroyed....seriously wtf is wrong with you.... have some iota of empathy.. you sound like a lunatic..

LOL,traitors of their country are traitors to their country and they're called just that.

Are you now complaining for me not agreeing to your post ? I've only answered in the same "it is funny how...,etc" manner you've adressed me.It is you sitting thousands of miles away cheering for a mad man putting the lives of millions from a score of East European nations in danger,taking the high ground just because the "West is evil" without a iota of knowledge about this region,its past and future ramifications.And that because "Russia was good to India" which might be true but according to you "EE be damned for that".Well,we,eastern europeans beg to differ,sry if you don't like it and start bitching about by throwing ridiculous words as "lunatic"

 

[Armstrong]

Crimea and Ukraine is were Russia started, you would think a person like Putin would not want it back...

Whether he does or whether he doesn't is irrelevant because many a men have wanted many things that they cannot have & Russia would hold any moral high ground on this had they not annexed quite a few Non-Russian Areas into the Russian Federation over the centuries themselves !

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Russian troops were nowhere except Crimea. Putin openly warned the West and junta seized power - in the case of aggression against the Russian people, he reserves the right to send troops. It is his sacred right to defend compatriots - it can not be deprived from Putin by any Western leader. Even God does not take away this sacred right.
Besides, the junta began to reconsider their position - they realized that the West uses them and will not defend them.

the British did that back in the 80s on Falklands war when they sent their armada in the name of protecting the Islanders who wanted to remain part of Britain.
by that definition Putin is on the right side.

in the end I hope that Putin doesnt blink and back down because that will be a disaster and make the West far more ruthless and aggressive and they would go ahead with open invasion of Syria because covert war is not working for them and might invade Iran as well.
a stronger and more powerful Russia might put a leash on the West that seems to keen to engage in military conflict where ever and whenever it pleases these days and we have suffered because of that..

 

[Hakan]

Crimean Tatars may 'take up arms' if Russia invades | Europe | Worldbulletin News

"If we need to use violence to counteract the invaders, we will do this. The Crimean Tatar units, which are currently being prepared, are ready for war," Crimean Tatar representative Mustafa Jemilev reportedly said.

 

[LaBong]

Crimea is an Internationally Recognized part of Ukraine - You can't occupy the territory of another Sovereign Country just like that ?

Eh? USA and NATO do that every now and then.

I'm not a fan of Putin, however western block orchestrated this crisis when they helped to topple a democratically elected govt with the help of protestors even after the President signed a truce and called for early election, just because he cancelled a trade deal. And then went to power an unelected oligarch who stripped Russian of it's official language status. Putin got a bloody nose in geo-political war and returned the favour militarily.

And there's not much west can do here anyway against the injured bear. All these talks of sanctions are just bullcrap considering western Europe wouldn't like to be gas starved for rest of the winter.

 

[vostok]

Crimea is an Internationally Recognized part of Ukraine - You can't occupy the territory of another Sovereign Country just like that ?

And if Russia is going to care for Russians elsewhere than by that logic it should give freedom to all Non-Russians areas that form part of the Russian Federation when those areas ask for Independence on the basis of being 'Not Russians' !

This is nothing more than hypocrisy in the guise of Russian Expansionism - a relic from the Soviet Era !

The Soviet Union and the Russian Empire were also internationally recognized states. Why did the same international community recognized their decay and those "state" that came out?
@Irfan Baloch sorry mate I quoted your post by mistake.

 

[Armstrong]

Eh? USA and NATO do that every now and then.

I'm not a fan of Putin, however western block orchestrated this crisis when they helped to topple a democratically elected govt with the help of protestors even after the President signed a truce, just because he cancelled a trade deal. Putin got a bloody nose in geo-political war and returned the favour militarily.

And there's not much west can do here anyway against the injured bear.

Like I said a few pages back - I don't condone American Adventurism but this is nothing more than Russian Expansionism either !

I don't know whether they did or they didn't orchestrate this but the Government is gone....the interim Government is here & the succeeding elections would've established once & for all where the majority of Ukraine stands !

 

[Star Wars]

LOL,traitors of their country are traitors to their country and they're called just that.

Are you now complaining for me not agreeing to your post ? I've only answered in the same "it is funny how...,etc" manner you've adressed me.It is you sitting thousands of miles away cheering for a mad man putting the lives of millions from a score of East European nations in danger,taking the high ground just because the "West is evil" without a iota of knowledge about this region,its past and future ramifications.And that because "Russia was good to India" which might be true but according to you "EE be damned for that".Well,we,eastern europeans beg to differ,sry if you don't like it and start bitching about by throwing ridiculous words as "lunatic"

Now the only thing i find wrong with you is the Barrage of personal attacks that you can make against a person just because he has an opinion which is contrary to yours. The nonsense that your sprout makes you look like an extremist.. Learn to talk to people , people have different opinions , hoping for their harm just because he thinks differently makes you as much as a lunatic as those Alquida /Taliban folks ....

Like I said a few pages back - I don't condone American Adventurism but this is nothing more than Russian Expansionism either !

I don't know whether they did or they didn't orchestrate this but the Government is gone....the interim Government is here & the succeeding elections would've established once & for all where the majority of Ukraine stands !

You think Russia would tolerate a Pro EU/west govt. in its doorstep considering America wanted to make a missile base there ? Nop..not at all..... Russia is looking after their interests , The whole thing was started by the west Russia has no option but to respond in kind... they can't sit quietly ...

 

[LordTyrannus]

"If we need to use violence to counteract the invaders, we will do this. The Crimean Tatar units, which are currently being prepared, are ready for war," Crimean Tatar representative Mustafa Jemilev reportedly said.

Islamist jihadists always takes imperialist side. Russia needs to deport them back to torkey or wherever they come from.

 

[vostok]

Like I said a few pages back - I don't condone American Adventurism but this is nothing more than Russian Expansionism either !

I don't know whether they did or they didn't orchestrate this but the Government is gone....the interim Government is here & the succeeding elections would've established once & for all where the majority of Ukraine stands !

Tell me, do you keep in the right of Pakistan to defend Kashmiris?