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The Prime Minister has refused to offer more work and student visas to India in order to secure a free trade deal with the country.

Rishi Sunak flew to New Delhi on Thursday night for the G20 summit, where he will hold talks with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, during his first visit to India since entering Downing Street.

It is understood that Mr Modi’s negotiators had previously been demanding more visas for nurses and IT professionals as the price of a deal with the UK.

However, a No 10 spokesman insisted that any free trade agreement (FTA) would only focus on “trade and business”, adding: “Immigration is a separate issue.”

The move will be seen as a victory for Tory backbenchers on the Right of the party, who had feared the Government was preparing to offer major concessions on visas – a move opposed by Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary – amid ballooning levels of net migration.

India already receives the highest number of student visas of any country, and Mrs Braverman is separately concerned about an increase in illegal arrivals from India.

Mr Sunak’s official spokesman said: “This is a trade deal. It is focused on trade and business. The only aspect of the movement of people covered by an FTA is business mobility, which is the temporary movement of business people for specific purposes.

“There are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve an FTA or this FTA.”

Asked about reports that Mrs Braverman had raised concerns at Cabinet about a possible relaxation of the visa regime, the spokesman added: “The Prime Minister has been clear he believes that the current levels of migration are too high. He and the Home Secretary are united in their commitment to reducing net migration.

“To be crystal clear, there are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve this free trade agreement. That includes student visas.”

Ministers have also ruled out any concessions on skilled worker visas for Indians.

A meeting between Mr Sunak and Mr Modi on Saturday is expected to include a discussion of outstanding elements of the deal, including disputes over alcohol tariffs and UK demands for curbs on the production of cheap generic drugs.

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening - GETTY IMAGES
A government source said Mr Sunak would not accept a sub-standard deal despite pressure from the Indian government to reach an agreement swiftly. “We’re not going to be bounced into a worse deal because there’s a bit of momentum now,” they said..

On Thursday, Vikram Doraiswami, India’s High Commissioner in London, said the country was also asking for its workers’ pension pots to be made “portable” so they could be transferred back when Indian nationals return home after time working in the UK.

Mr Sunak is also expected to urge Mr Modi, as the host of the G20 summit, to end neutrality over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. His spokesman said: “India, of course, has a vital role to play as the world’s largest democracy in calling out Russia’s assault on human rights and, indeed, democracy itself.

“We will use meetings with Modi or elsewhere to encourage them to use that influence to bring an end to Putin’s brutal invasion.”

Mr Modi may also raise his desire for the return of the Koh-i-Noor diamond and other artefacts taken to Britain.

It had previously been hoped a trade deal between the two countries would have been ready to announce on Mr Sunak’s visit for the G20. When he visited India as prime minister in April last year, Boris Johnson had talked up the prospect of one being struck imminently.

Sources on both sides are playing down the prospect of a quick-fix deal. An Indian official said: “It is unlikely that the trade deal could be concluded this week.

“Both countries have agreed to put the contentious issues like visa, wine tariff reduction, and protection of Indian industries, which include generic medicine manufacturers, off the table for the time being.”

Addressing the question of immigration being part of the discussions, a government source said: “The only issue on the table is business mobility, which is very specific to companies relocating and affects a limited number of people. We want to make it easier for Indian companies to trade, but we don’t do visas in trade deals.”

India has been pushing for more visas for nurses, care workers, IT professionals and financial consultants, but a British source said: “Anything that is to be agreed has to be very specific, targeted and works for the UK economy.”

On Thursday, the Government’s message appeared to have registered with the Indian government.

Mr Doraiswami told Times Radio: “We never said that the visas are part of our ask. We are not asking for migrants to be able to come here... we are a net recipient of migration rather than a net centre of migrants.”

Som Parkash, India’s minister of state for commerce and industry, added: “The visa issue will be discussed separately.”

 
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The Prime Minister has refused to offer more work and student visas to India in order to secure a free trade deal with the country.

Rishi Sunak flew to New Delhi on Thursday night for the G20 summit, where he will hold talks with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, during his first visit to India since entering Downing Street.

It is understood that Mr Modi’s negotiators had previously been demanding more visas for nurses and IT professionals as the price of a deal with the UK.

However, a No 10 spokesman insisted that any free trade agreement (FTA) would only focus on “trade and business”, adding: “Immigration is a separate issue.”

The move will be seen as a victory for Tory backbenchers on the Right of the party, who had feared the Government was preparing to offer major concessions on visas – a move opposed by Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary – amid ballooning levels of net migration.

India already receives the highest number of student visas of any country, and Mrs Braverman is separately concerned about an increase in illegal arrivals from India.

Mr Sunak’s official spokesman said: “This is a trade deal. It is focused on trade and business. The only aspect of the movement of people covered by an FTA is business mobility, which is the temporary movement of business people for specific purposes.

“There are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve an FTA or this FTA.”

Asked about reports that Mrs Braverman had raised concerns at Cabinet about a possible relaxation of the visa regime, the spokesman added: “The Prime Minister has been clear he believes that the current levels of migration are too high. He and the Home Secretary are united in their commitment to reducing net migration.

“To be crystal clear, there are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve this free trade agreement. That includes student visas.”

Ministers have also ruled out any concessions on skilled worker visas for Indians.

A meeting between Mr Sunak and Mr Modi on Saturday is expected to include a discussion of outstanding elements of the deal, including disputes over alcohol tariffs and UK demands for curbs on the production of cheap generic drugs.

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening - GETTY IMAGES
A government source said Mr Sunak would not accept a sub-standard deal despite pressure from the Indian government to reach an agreement swiftly. “We’re not going to be bounced into a worse deal because there’s a bit of momentum now,” they said..

On Thursday, Vikram Doraiswami, India’s High Commissioner in London, said the country was also asking for its workers’ pension pots to be made “portable” so they could be transferred back when Indian nationals return home after time working in the UK.

Mr Sunak is also expected to urge Mr Modi, as the host of the G20 summit, to end neutrality over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. His spokesman said: “India, of course, has a vital role to play as the world’s largest democracy in calling out Russia’s assault on human rights and, indeed, democracy itself.

“We will use meetings with Modi or elsewhere to encourage them to use that influence to bring an end to Putin’s brutal invasion.”

Mr Modi may also raise his desire for the return of the Koh-i-Noor diamond and other artefacts taken to Britain.

It had previously been hoped a trade deal between the two countries would have been ready to announce on Mr Sunak’s visit for the G20. When he visited India as prime minister in April last year, Boris Johnson had talked up the prospect of one being struck imminently.

Sources on both sides are playing down the prospect of a quick-fix deal. An Indian official said: “It is unlikely that the trade deal could be concluded this week.

“Both countries have agreed to put the contentious issues like visa, wine tariff reduction, and protection of Indian industries, which include generic medicine manufacturers, off the table for the time being.”

Addressing the question of immigration being part of the discussions, a government source said: “The only issue on the table is business mobility, which is very specific to companies relocating and affects a limited number of people. We want to make it easier for Indian companies to trade, but we don’t do visas in trade deals.”

India has been pushing for more visas for nurses, care workers, IT professionals and financial consultants, but a British source said: “Anything that is to be agreed has to be very specific, targeted and works for the UK economy.”

On Thursday, the Government’s message appeared to have registered with the Indian government.

Mr Doraiswami told Times Radio: “We never said that the visas are part of our ask. We are not asking for migrants to be able to come here... we are a net recipient of migration rather than a net centre of migrants.”

Som Parkash, India’s minister of state for commerce and industry, added: “The visa issue will be discussed separately.”

I don't think Indians are asking for immigration either. We want an ability of our service professionals to move about. This is to cater to our services providers advantage. India and UK will have an advantageous trade deal shortly. Pakistanis on PDF are nobody to avert that, they are just being sour grapes.
 
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Shouldn't a developing country hold on to it's nurses, IT professionals and financial consultants?
How would this promote India's development ? :yu:
 
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The Prime Minister has refused to offer more work and student visas to India in order to secure a free trade deal with the country.

Rishi Sunak flew to New Delhi on Thursday night for the G20 summit, where he will hold talks with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, during his first visit to India since entering Downing Street.

It is understood that Mr Modi’s negotiators had previously been demanding more visas for nurses and IT professionals as the price of a deal with the UK.

However, a No 10 spokesman insisted that any free trade agreement (FTA) would only focus on “trade and business”, adding: “Immigration is a separate issue.”

The move will be seen as a victory for Tory backbenchers on the Right of the party, who had feared the Government was preparing to offer major concessions on visas – a move opposed by Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary – amid ballooning levels of net migration.

India already receives the highest number of student visas of any country, and Mrs Braverman is separately concerned about an increase in illegal arrivals from India.

Mr Sunak’s official spokesman said: “This is a trade deal. It is focused on trade and business. The only aspect of the movement of people covered by an FTA is business mobility, which is the temporary movement of business people for specific purposes.

“There are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve an FTA or this FTA.”

Asked about reports that Mrs Braverman had raised concerns at Cabinet about a possible relaxation of the visa regime, the spokesman added: “The Prime Minister has been clear he believes that the current levels of migration are too high. He and the Home Secretary are united in their commitment to reducing net migration.

“To be crystal clear, there are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve this free trade agreement. That includes student visas.”

Ministers have also ruled out any concessions on skilled worker visas for Indians.

A meeting between Mr Sunak and Mr Modi on Saturday is expected to include a discussion of outstanding elements of the deal, including disputes over alcohol tariffs and UK demands for curbs on the production of cheap generic drugs.

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening - GETTY IMAGES
A government source said Mr Sunak would not accept a sub-standard deal despite pressure from the Indian government to reach an agreement swiftly. “We’re not going to be bounced into a worse deal because there’s a bit of momentum now,” they said..

On Thursday, Vikram Doraiswami, India’s High Commissioner in London, said the country was also asking for its workers’ pension pots to be made “portable” so they could be transferred back when Indian nationals return home after time working in the UK.

Mr Sunak is also expected to urge Mr Modi, as the host of the G20 summit, to end neutrality over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. His spokesman said: “India, of course, has a vital role to play as the world’s largest democracy in calling out Russia’s assault on human rights and, indeed, democracy itself.

“We will use meetings with Modi or elsewhere to encourage them to use that influence to bring an end to Putin’s brutal invasion.”

Mr Modi may also raise his desire for the return of the Koh-i-Noor diamond and other artefacts taken to Britain.

It had previously been hoped a trade deal between the two countries would have been ready to announce on Mr Sunak’s visit for the G20. When he visited India as prime minister in April last year, Boris Johnson had talked up the prospect of one being struck imminently.

Sources on both sides are playing down the prospect of a quick-fix deal. An Indian official said: “It is unlikely that the trade deal could be concluded this week.

“Both countries have agreed to put the contentious issues like visa, wine tariff reduction, and protection of Indian industries, which include generic medicine manufacturers, off the table for the time being.”

Addressing the question of immigration being part of the discussions, a government source said: “The only issue on the table is business mobility, which is very specific to companies relocating and affects a limited number of people. We want to make it easier for Indian companies to trade, but we don’t do visas in trade deals.”

India has been pushing for more visas for nurses, care workers, IT professionals and financial consultants, but a British source said: “Anything that is to be agreed has to be very specific, targeted and works for the UK economy.”

On Thursday, the Government’s message appeared to have registered with the Indian government.

Mr Doraiswami told Times Radio: “We never said that the visas are part of our ask. We are not asking for migrants to be able to come here... we are a net recipient of migration rather than a net centre of migrants.”

Som Parkash, India’s minister of state for commerce and industry, added: “The visa issue will be discussed separately.”

1st world India wants to send people to work in the 3rd world UK? Why?
 
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The Prime Minister has refused to offer more work and student visas to India in order to secure a free trade deal with the country.

Rishi Sunak flew to New Delhi on Thursday night for the G20 summit, where he will hold talks with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, during his first visit to India since entering Downing Street.

It is understood that Mr Modi’s negotiators had previously been demanding more visas for nurses and IT professionals as the price of a deal with the UK.

However, a No 10 spokesman insisted that any free trade agreement (FTA) would only focus on “trade and business”, adding: “Immigration is a separate issue.”

The move will be seen as a victory for Tory backbenchers on the Right of the party, who had feared the Government was preparing to offer major concessions on visas – a move opposed by Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary – amid ballooning levels of net migration.

India already receives the highest number of student visas of any country, and Mrs Braverman is separately concerned about an increase in illegal arrivals from India.

Mr Sunak’s official spokesman said: “This is a trade deal. It is focused on trade and business. The only aspect of the movement of people covered by an FTA is business mobility, which is the temporary movement of business people for specific purposes.

“There are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve an FTA or this FTA.”

Asked about reports that Mrs Braverman had raised concerns at Cabinet about a possible relaxation of the visa regime, the spokesman added: “The Prime Minister has been clear he believes that the current levels of migration are too high. He and the Home Secretary are united in their commitment to reducing net migration.

“To be crystal clear, there are no plans to change our immigration policy to achieve this free trade agreement. That includes student visas.”

Ministers have also ruled out any concessions on skilled worker visas for Indians.

A meeting between Mr Sunak and Mr Modi on Saturday is expected to include a discussion of outstanding elements of the deal, including disputes over alcohol tariffs and UK demands for curbs on the production of cheap generic drugs.

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening

Mr Sunak chats to reporters on his way to the G20 summit on Thursday evening - GETTY IMAGES
A government source said Mr Sunak would not accept a sub-standard deal despite pressure from the Indian government to reach an agreement swiftly. “We’re not going to be bounced into a worse deal because there’s a bit of momentum now,” they said..

On Thursday, Vikram Doraiswami, India’s High Commissioner in London, said the country was also asking for its workers’ pension pots to be made “portable” so they could be transferred back when Indian nationals return home after time working in the UK.

>> The UK has NO pension pots. National Insurance is just a tax and its revenue goes into current spending. There is no mountain of money that has a "label of pension pots" that can be "transferred". The Indians know that. What India is asking for is to allows its people to come to the UK and work TAX FREE and thereby allow it to offer Indian IT resource at even lower costs ... Allowing this to happen will allow India to further undermine the IT industry in the UK, so this is a non-starter. Period.

Mr Sunak is also expected to urge Mr Modi, as the host of the G20 summit, to end neutrality over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. His spokesman said: “India, of course, has a vital role to play as the world’s largest democracy in calling out Russia’s assault on human rights and, indeed, democracy itself.

“We will use meetings with Modi or elsewhere to encourage them to use that influence to bring an end to Putin’s brutal invasion.”

Mr Modi may also raise his desire for the return of the Koh-i-Noor diamond and other artefacts taken to Britain.

It had previously been hoped a trade deal between the two countries would have been ready to announce on Mr Sunak’s visit for the G20. When he visited India as prime minister in April last year, Boris Johnson had talked up the prospect of one being struck imminently.

Sources on both sides are playing down the prospect of a quick-fix deal. An Indian official said: “It is unlikely that the trade deal could be concluded this week.

“Both countries have agreed to put the contentious issues like visa, wine tariff reduction, and protection of Indian industries, which include generic medicine manufacturers, off the table for the time being.”

>> Wine Tariff reduction, protection of indian industries, all thast stuff is the point of a Trade Pact ... if India not reducing its barriers to UK products and services is not on th table - then what is the point of these talks ?????????????

Addressing the question of immigration being part of the discussions, a government source said: “The only issue on the table is business mobility, which is very specific to companies relocating and affects a limited number of people. We want to make it easier for Indian companies to trade, but we don’t do visas in trade deals.”

>> If the UK offers simplier VISA processing to India, then it also has to offer it to the rest of the world - so, unlikely the UK will relent on Immigration - period.

India has been pushing for more visas for nurses, care workers, IT professionals and financial consultants, but a British source said: “Anything that is to be agreed has to be very specific, targeted and works for the UK economy.”

>> Why is India so keen for its Indians to leave the India ? What does nursing have to do with anything ???

On Thursday, the Government’s message appeared to have registered with the Indian government.

Mr Doraiswami told Times Radio: “We never said that the visas are part of our ask. We are not asking for migrants to be able to come here... we are a net recipient of migration rather than a net centre of migrants.”

>> Horse shit ... Indians are one of the biggest immigrant communities out there.

Som Parkash, India’s minister of state for commerce and industry, added: “The visa issue will be discussed separately.”


With the UK heading into Elections next year - no way any Party is going to sign up to anything that increases immigration and then be forced to defend that through the election process.
 
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Hunt 'concedes defeat' on India work visas​



Chancellor Jeremy Hunt has appeared to rule out more work visas to get a trade deal with India in what some Tory MPs believe is a victory for Suella Braverman.

But with the Prime Minister at the G20 in India and Chancellor Jeremy Hunt also joining finance ministers there it appears that the UK will now not budge on the issue.

Mr Hunt told the Independent that it was "difficult to imagine how much more we could give on that front”.

>> thankfully no more Indian Visa's... finally some common sense prevails.
 
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I do not think Rishi Sunak will ever offer India concessions on immigrations. Some native British conservative party successor will offer a deal to India at some point.

The writing is on the wall for low skilled immigrants from Asia and Africa.

FFS no more Indians here, already so many.
you can always go back to Pakistan :-)
 
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I don't think Indians are asking for immigration either. We want an ability of our service professionals to move about. This is to cater to our services providers advantage. India and UK will have an advantageous trade deal shortly. Pakistanis on PDF are nobody to avert that, they are just being sour grapes.
You are saying Pakistanis on PDF are controlling bristish foreign policy?
 
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Shouldn't a developing country hold on to it's nurses, IT professionals and financial consultants?
How would this promote India's development ? :yu:
Indeed they should and Malaysia too should know as it has exported thousands of nurses into the British NHS and to Singapore and the Gulf
 
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Why would Indians want more visas? How does that help us? It's just going to increase the situation of brain drain.
 
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>> thankfully no more Indian Visa's... finally some common sense prevails.
Sorry they mean NO INCREASE, not no more Indian Visa's. Having committed Seppuku on Brexit Indians will REMAIN the largest recipient of Student and Professional work Visa's by a very long margin.
 
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