UAE celebrity discriminates arabs vs non arab migrants, admits treating nonarab migrants differently

[jamal18]

Was your friend indian/Nepalese?

Burmese

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Burmese

In all Non-White nations in the world including Africa and South America, White people are treated like Gods. It's a sad reality.

 

[Slav Defence]

Don't worry about these pathetic Arabs, their time is coming see what is happening in Yemen, Syria, Libya what previously happened to Kuwait. Iraq is finished and next in line is UAE and Saudi Arab- I was posted by my company got 16 months in Abu Dhabi way back in 94, boy that was enough for me never set foot again in that land and never will. !!

Damn it, you were waiting for how long for this? Get some rest, have some medicine and read again what you just wrote. I find it useless to spend even soft warning on you.
Regards

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

I agree with you I don't think he is racist, it's more like he feels closer to other Arabs than non-Arabs. I see a lot of people from lots of backgrounds say similar things and you are right on this forum most of focus is only on Arab figures echoing such feelings.

However, I think there needs to be a line drawn for all ethnicity's and nationalities. If one is Arab let's say, and he prefers to marry another Arab because it's an easier process and something they are more familiar with, that is not racism. Same case if an Asian prefers marriage with an Asian. There are outliers who can make intermarriage process work fine, and that is fine as well. Such as Muslims in the West who share common language/culture even if they share different background. It's more about convenience and not race driven purposes.

But, we also need to understand we are fellow Muslims and live in a globalized world. For case of Emirate guy, his nations invites expats from Asia and thus it would be illogical and immoral to treat them differently or share perspective that they are lesser than others. So we can't let these realities evolve into something that they aren't, in which people feel they are different creations or that others should be treated differently or that everyone should become Turkish, Arab, Asian, Iranian nationalists. Once it gets to that point it gets out of control and makes people lose sense of why they were created by God and they develop a mindset of the world that is not compatible with what God informed us. It will affect us spiritually. So having sense of background/community is fine in moderation as long as it doesn't affect our morality/brotherly hood.

Anything more than that is unhealthy spiritually and will not lead to the satisfaction of the soul.

The main problem here is that there is a double standard when it comes to Arabs which every sane Arab (the few that remain on PDF) would obviously always object to. Moreover a few Arab-obsessed loudmouths on PDF have made it their specialty to obsess/troll/solely post negative content about Arabs for a living on PDF. I even have the words of some moderators about this behavior. It is not a new thing either. It is probably the main thing that caused the Arab exodus on PDF. To the point that there are very few Arab users if any who can give their viewpoints in a debate where we are somehow involved (Arabs, Arab countries, people, events etc.)

Thus those loudmouth views overshadow that of every other and it becomes "mainstream".

I honestly think that we Arabs are one of the least racist people out there. Our history is a living evidence of this as well as the diversity found in the Arab world and how minorities were and are treated in our countries by ordinary people historically. Sure, some regimes and systems in place are fundamentally flawed and sure some have a superiority complex (not any different from other historically important people in world history) but it is rarely racial and mostly always a reaction to previous provocations.

I think it borders the absurd to accuse GCC states of racism when those countries are some of the most cosmopolitan areas of the world. Historically Arab nationalistic rulers/ideology was not adopted in the GCC either. When Arab countries such as Iraq and Egypt preferred to almost exclusively attract Arab labour, GCC opened up for the entire world.

Racism, stereotypes etc. are present everywhere in the world. Mostly among uneducated people. Even though I sometimes engage in troll wars on PDF/engage with trolls, there is not a single race/nationality that I hate by default or even dislike. It is always about the individual. No sane person should generalize.

BTW I could find 1000's of such harmless videos among every ethnicity but If it was posted on PDF, it would have 1% of the traffic that this thread has.

Just write Arab and you are certain to have a lot of traffic for good and bad.

 

[Falcon29]

@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates

Yes it's not good for such behavior to be normalized among certain individuals but I think moderation team and other members are doing their part to prevent race discussions or flame baiting. Certain active group of Iranians want to demonize Arabs for political purposes but most people have caught on to them and no longer take it seriously. So my advice to you do not take it all at heart, and I think it's better to have such people expose themselves as fitnah creators and allow people to develop negative opinions of them.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates

Yes it's not good for such behavior to be normalized among certain individuals but I think moderation team and other members are doing their part to prevent race discussions or flame baiting. Certain active group of Iranians want to demonize Arabs for political purposes but most people have caught on to them and no longer take it seriously. So my advice to you do not take it all at heart, and I think it's better to have such people expose themselves as fitnah creators and allow people to develop negative opinions of them.

Actually Iranians are no longer the problem. To begin with the few Iranian "troublemakers" could be counted on 1 hand and usually I could deal with them alone simultaneously as you are well aware of and any old user on PDF. I have had many cordial exchanges with Iranian users of late.

Most of the recent trolling is the work of Pakistanis (the few known loudmouths - some found their way to this thread) and Turks (similarly) from what I have observed on this section. The later is due to political differences in the Arab world after Erdogan's failed meddling adventures in the Arab world. Prior to that such instances could be counted on 1 hand as you know.

What has always amused me (maybe this is due to most of the Israeli users being Arab Jews here from what I was told by them during discussions) barely if ever engage in trolling against us, lol. It is a bit like the other world (PDF) given the Zionist drivel at times online and certain hateful Israeli politicians.

What we should have in mind is that this is a forum and not very representative. The reality is that the vast, vast majority of average Pakistanis have positive feelings about the average Arab and vice versa and that our history has been cordial in the past 5000 years since human to human interactions occurred (recorded that is).

But first of all, we need to solve our own problems/mess, as there is unfortunately a lot on the table right now. I think once that happens, we can focus on the real important things and work toward Arab integration as only joint Arab integration will solve (truly) our challenges. This way the poorer Arab countries won't be forgotten either and enjoy the collective fruits much like what occurs in a federal state like the US or the EU in Europe.

Anyway ending it here as there is no point to continue further. Just terribly bored since yesterday night and down with flu-like symptoms (no corona like symptoms so everything is fine). Can't wait for normalcy to return.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Can you arrange a White Blue Eyed Blonde for me?

Why do you like White girls so much? Your kids will lose their culture, and be confused on who to identify with.

 

[Blacklight]

Don't worry about these pathetic Arabs, their time is coming see what is happening in Yemen, Syria, Libya what previously happened to Kuwait. Iraq is finished and next in line is UAE and Saudi Arab- I was posted by my company got 16 months in Abu Dhabi way back in 94, boy that was enough for me never set foot again in that land and never will. !!

Well every one is entitled to their opinion, I was there for a few months, both AD and Dubai.

I found AD to be like Islamabad, (minus the weather) quiet, safe, and very family oriented. Dubai on the other hand was a hustling, bustling commercial city.

But Egyptians and Sudanese are lazy so they cant work loooool

I worked with both, but found Sudanese to be much more humbler and hard working.

I'm happy this Arab told the truth. This is PRECISEY why Pakistan should become so rich and powerful that we don't need to send our citizens abroad to get abused by people like this. The funny thing is that White Western European people and Jews treat Pakistanis and other minorities FAR BETTER than the Arabs do. That is the reality.

You dont understand, until recently there was a freeze on Bengalis. Ones who were there, were there, once their visa is cancelled they cant come back. I dont know if that still is the case, but due to their involvement in crime, they had put a ban on any more Bengalis.

More Arab-obsession from partially Arabized people. There was absolutely zero racism at hand. Any fluent Arabic speaker will confirm that. I wonder why such non-stories and statements (issued daily by non-Arabs aimed at people they are related to and feel and affinity too) are not made into threads? Must be due to the well-known obsession.



The history of the Arab world (cradle of civilization), landmass (size of Russia), strategic location (bordering the most busy trade routes in the world), resources (one of the richest areas on the planet in terms of hydrocarbons and minerals - if not the richest), population, economic size, potential etc. is enough to make the Arab world a global powerhouse like throughout history for millennia.

Anyway shall we open the pandora box and talk about 1971? Or how Pakistanis, Indians and Bengalis interact here or the common ethnic slurs aimed at various ethnic groups in those countries??

UAE, being one of the most cosmopolitan places in the world, is somehow a racist entity, where locals are a minority. What a joke.




Of course Arabs will have a special affinity for other fellow Arabs. Pakistanis will have the same for other Pakistanis over non-Pakistanis and similar Indians over non-Indians and virtually everyone else.

This feeling will only be heightened in a nation like UAE where Arabs are outnumbered by local expats for the time being.



Celebrity? Some random YouTuber.

Here an Arab (replying to his short video) is complaining about his answer, calling him a lying hypocrite and accusing the UAE of having preferential treatment for non-Arab expats over Arab expats and accusing Emiratis of only marrying with Pakistanis, Indians and Filipinos (lol).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1249065706609684480

This is a complete non-story if there ever was one but carry on.



Why do you care about internal Arab relations as an Indian living in the Netherlands, clearly obsessed with Arabs (seeing your user history on PDF)?

An Arab is an Arab. How the average individual makes a distinction is up to him or her. I see no difference.



PDF in all its glory. Simpletons at it (by most). Complete non-story. As if a Pakistani here or Indian will ever deny the obvious, that a Pakistani will have a closer affinity to a fellow Pakistani over a foreigner, or an Indian over a non-Indian. Caste system, internal ethnic hatred/rivalry (historical). As if we don't know all this already. Community violence each weekend etc.

Somehow only Arabs are singled out.

No offense but it is laughable given that South Asia hosts one of the largest amount of modern day slaves in the world, the entire caste system etc. It makes the most xenophobic Emirati an angel in comparison. Imagine how those people would have behaved if they were a minority in their own country? Just a joke.

Global Slavery Index:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Slavery_Index

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org

Brother, can you do a translation on the OP?

Arabs don't really like the Sudanese as they are black. Even in UAE some of the blacks who have been there for almost 500 years are not allowed their passport and told to go back to Africa and get a passport. it's not all straight forward. this is why all the prophets came to these people

@Slav Defence This fella has a very clear agenda.

Sheikh Zayed with Kamal Hamza in Sudan during a visit in 1972. Later Kamal Hamza was head of Dubai Municipality.

In late 1966, mere months after Sheikh Zayed became ruler of Abu Dhabi a trio of technocrats were seconded from the Sudanese government including Sheikh Zayed’s advisor Saleh Abdul Rahman Farah, Abdul Shakoor Omar Atiya who oversaw roads planning in Abu Dhabi and Al Sunni Banga (latter two did not naturalise) who was the first director of Abu Dhabi Municipality and subsequent director Ahmed Awad Al Kareem. Other notable Sudanese who had a major impact on the UAE were Taj Alsir Hamza who worked as a legal advisor to the UAE’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Albadri Omar Ilyas who was head of town planning in Al Ain in the early 1970s. A number of Sudanese professors were the founding deans of colleges and departments at UAE University in Al Ain when it was established in 1976 including Basheer Ahmed who founded the College of Medicine and Awad Abdul Hakim, founder of the College of Engineering amongst others. Information isn’t readily available on whether the latter four individuals were granted UAE citizenship or not.

In fact, Sheikh Zayed was so keen on relations with Sudan that it was the first country he visited as President of the UAE in February 1972. According to Sudanese writer Shawgi Badri at one point in time the seven directors of the UAE municipalities were all Sudanese including Ahmed Awad Al Kareem in Abu Dhabi, Kamal Hamza Al Hassan in Dubai, Mukhtar Makki in Ajman, (Al Sayed) Al Atbani and Mokhtar Al Toum Al Jarq in Sharjah (it is not clear if the last three naturalised) Abdul Latif Fadl (who did not naturalise).

United Arab Emigrants
Stories of pioneer Arab migrants who became Emirati.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

next he said
Do you think we treat an indian worker & sudani equally? Allah Forbid! X 3”

Whatever he said later or before was wrong.
Please don't defend for the sake of defending someone out of habit

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well every one is entitled to their opinion, I was there for a few months, both AD and Dubai.

I found AD to be like Islamabad, (minus the weather) quiet, safe, and very family oriented. Dubai on the other hand was a hustling, bustling commercial city.



I worked with both, but found Sudanese to be much more humbler and hard working.



You dont understand, until recently there was a freeze on Bengalis. Ones who were there, were there, once their visa is cancelled they cant come back. I dont know if that still is the case, but due to their involvement in crime, they had put a ban on any more Bengalis.


Brother, can you do a translation on the OP?



@Slav Defence This fella has a very clear agenda.

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Sheikh Zayed with Kamal Hamza in Sudan during a visit in 1972. Later Kamal Hamza was head of Dubai Municipality.

In late 1966, mere months after Sheikh Zayed became ruler of Abu Dhabi a trio of technocrats were seconded from the Sudanese government including Sheikh Zayed’s advisor Saleh Abdul Rahman Farah, Abdul Shakoor Omar Atiya who oversaw roads planning in Abu Dhabi and Al Sunni Banga (latter two did not naturalise) who was the first director of Abu Dhabi Municipality and subsequent director Ahmed Awad Al Kareem. Other notable Sudanese who had a major impact on the UAE were Taj Alsir Hamza who worked as a legal advisor to the UAE’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Albadri Omar Ilyas who was head of town planning in Al Ain in the early 1970s. A number of Sudanese professors were the founding deans of colleges and departments at UAE University in Al Ain when it was established in 1976 including Basheer Ahmed who founded the College of Medicine and Awad Abdul Hakim, founder of the College of Engineering amongst others. Information isn’t readily available on whether the latter four individuals were granted UAE citizenship or not.

In fact, Sheikh Zayed was so keen on relations with Sudan that it was the first country he visited as President of the UAE in February 1972. According to Sudanese writer Shawgi Badri at one point in time the seven directors of the UAE municipalities were all Sudanese including Ahmed Awad Al Kareem in Abu Dhabi, Kamal Hamza Al Hassan in Dubai, Mukhtar Makki in Ajman, (Al Sayed) Al Atbani and Mokhtar Al Toum Al Jarq in Sharjah (it is not clear if the last three naturalised) Abdul Latif Fadl (who did not naturalise).

United Arab Emigrants
Stories of pioneer Arab migrants who became Emirati.

Let's be honest. We all feel an affinity to those who are the closest to us. On a personal and people to people level, I feel the most kinship with Pakistanis, then Afghans and finally the brown/olive-skinned Iranians and Turks.

 

[StormBreaker]

What is the other part of his lineage?

No idea, Never gave that a thought but did hear that either of his parents is British. Don’t know the truth behind so won’t call it a fact

 

[Blacklight]

Let's be honest. We all feel an affinity to those who are the closest to us. On a personal and people to people level, I feel the most kinship with Pakistanis, then Afghans and finally the brown/olive-skinned Iranians and Turks.

This is something natural, you will be more closer to your brother, than your cousin.

For me those who have stood by Pakistan i.e. China, KSA & UAE, in every thick and thin, helped finance numerous projects including our nuclear / BM prog have my respect, irrespective of what a social media celebrity says what.

Besides given Bengalis track record with us i.e. how Pakistanis were slaughtered by mukhti bahini terrorists, and the propaganda against Pakistan and PA in particular, plus their nefarious activities in GCC, I honestly dont care and neither would any level headed Pakistani, but this is PDF!

Btw, I honestly dont understand why people get infatuated with celebrities.

No idea, Never gave that a thought but did hear that either of his parents is British. Don’t know the truth behind so won’t call it a fact

Just checked his Youtube channel, his mother is. Appreciate the videos he made about Pakistan, good stuff!

loooooooool

Come on mate dont make fun of him, give him the benefit of doubt.

That is probably true but we Pakistanis should be become powerful and advanced as a race and nation so we don't have to send our people abroad to get abused like this. Arabs are not our friends or allies.

Majority of our remittance comes from KSA & UAE, we have approx 5m people there. Kindly look at our statistics, you will soon understand who our friends really are.

 

[Blacklight]

Oh no another thread about race and whose ancestor had the bigger erection at night... yea not a pretty picture.

Here’s food for thought, stop basking in the glories of those before you... What have you yourself accomplished?

For the health of debate, you are free to prove me wrong bro...

This thread has given me a headache. Never met so many sheep in my life. I'm going to go spend some time on Khafee's forum, he has been whipping a pajeet into shape

you are probably not much educated by your government about the south asian role in the development of UAE. the UAE currency used to be rupees, minted by indian govt itself and before adopted of dirhams,

Till 1966 the Gulf rupee was used, since they were under British rule. Even prior to independence they stopped using it.

 

[Slav Defence]

Stick to the topic & kindly behave yourselves.

 

[xenon54 out]

Why do you like White girls so much? Your kids will lose their culture, and be confused on who to identify with.

Didnt you say you are mixture of Arab and European? So you are confused cultureless or what?