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U.S. Wages Will Be 58 Times Indonesia’s By 2019

Skilled worker in China factory can earn 5,000~6,000 RMB per month, few can reach 10,000 RMB if u good at opreating CNC digital machine tool.

Until to 2019, the salary might rise up ... if everything is fine, the reasonable is up to 4,000 RMB for a Chinese worker. That's my conclusion.

BTW what about current manufacturing wage for the Vietnamese worker per month 1,000 RMB ?

I know office people that make 4000-5000 RMB because they are good at what they do (I'm talking small factories).
One ex employee of mine that now works for factory sales is now making 8000-10,000 RMB a month including commission.

I understand . What's interesting is that as a business owner , if you ever terminate an employee who has been under your employ for at least 6 months then he or she can claim unemployment benefits which you as the business owner have to share said burden of cost. It's just insane ! That's one of the reasons small time to medium sized businesses in the US are suffering right now because of this policy.

And you'll have some folks who's claiming unemployment for years, and guess who's paying for that ? It's not all US Government, it's also the former employer.

Now you know why most US manufacturing went abroad, LoL

Of course, the more unemployment claims you get, your fund reserves paid by the unemployment rates that you pay, get used up and then they increase your tax rate.

Only the big companies can handle the system there.
 
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I know office people that make 4000-5000 RMB because they are good at what they do.
One ex employee of mine that now works for factory sales is now making 8000-10,000 RMB a month including commission.
Come on, man ... account executive or factory saler not belong to the skilled worker, i knew a friend as factory saler can earn 10,000~20,000 RMB per month. I said the skilled worker inside China factory who operating the CNC machine, also could easily earn 8,000 ~ 10,000 RMB a month.

Here's the high-wage skilled worker
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Come on, man ... account executive or factory saler not belong to the skilled worker, i knew a friend as factory saler can earn 10,000~20,000 RMB per month. I said the skilled worker inside China factory who operating the CNC machine, also could easily earn 8,000 ~ 10,000 RMB a month.

I'm talking small factories of less than 100 workers, they don't pay a lot to the people in the office. Bigger factories is another thing.

Come on, man ... account executive or factory saler not belong to the skilled worker, i knew a friend as factory saler can earn 10,000~20,000 RMB per month. I said the skilled worker inside China factory who operating the CNC machine, also could easily earn 8,000 ~ 10,000 RMB a month.

I'm talking about labor intensive factories, forget about CNC, that's a whole different level.
 
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he already had a wet dreams

it's already means, Indonesia had much more potential to become an industrial and manufacturing powerhouse in near future, given already low cost labor fee, even much potential than Vietnam

Not to mention, Indonesia had a much better service and infrastructure to serve the growing of industrial needs
sis, competition is good. try harder :-)
 
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I'm talking small factories of less than 100 workers, they don't pay a lot to the people in the office. Bigger factories is another thing.
Next time, u can ask the wage of CNC machine operator in China factory ... they get high pay.
 
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I'm talking small factories of less than 100 workers, they don't pay a lot to the people in the office. Bigger factories is another thing.



I'm talking about labor intensive factories, forget about CNC, that's a whole different level.

You are talking electronics, I'm talking manual workers doing painting and all sort of manual factory work related to handicrafts that is not really skilled work for the most part, they just learned the skill in the factory.

Next time, u can ask the wage of CNC machine operator in China factory ... they get high pay.

Man, we are talking about different industries, the factories that I work with make sculptures, its just a very labor intensive work, not related to machinery at all. What you are talking about is a very different level of work and pay.
 
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Next time, u can ask the wage of CNC machine operator in China factory ... they get high pay.

Bro what is the salary range for Civil Engineers, Mechanical Engineers, Industrial Engineers in say Shenzhen , Shanghai?
 
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Here's the high-wage skilled worker
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You showed me a CNC machine, here is the painting production line at one of these factories, they are hand painting figurines, the kid under the table belongs to one of the painters, this is their idea of child care while at the factory, you get the idea about the type of factory that I'm talking about?
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I took that pic because I really got a kick about the kid sleeping under the table.
 
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It's pretty close tho, perhaps he meant gross pay not net pay. Where I live, in NJ, the average New Jerseyan makes around 70k a year, with NJ household income making well over 100k a year.

It's common for some people to be taking home $5000 every two weeks after taxes. Around $10,000 every month. That's not even rich, that's just middle to upper middle class from my point of view, and from where I live $5k every two weeks is not surprising. :)

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Yeah that's New Jersey lol! I've been to NJ but never realize that's how much an average person make. That's really good income tbh. But the Average American don't make that much. I'm talking about GDP per capita.

What industries does NJ have? lol I'm very curious.
 
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Funny thread. IF US wage will be 58x Indoesia, than it must be 250x Vietnam
 
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Funny thread. IF US wage will be 58x Indoesia, than it must be 250x Vietnam

they said Vietnamese had better pay rate than Indonesia, but unfortunately their production and output manufacturing is still low compared to us very low indeed, with less than 40 billion US dollar output in manufacturing sector albeit their 100 million population, their productivity is still less compared to us who had 250 population but can put 230 billion US dollar manufacturing output. Their wage is expensive, but their productivity is much lower.

it's either

1. Their people is much demanding
2. Lazy
3. Uneducated
4. Their infrastructure is sucks
 
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Yeah that's New Jersey lol! I've been to NJ but never realize that's how much an average person make. That's really good income tbh. But the Average American don't make that much. I'm talking about GDP per capita.

What industries does NJ have? lol I'm very curious.


Well there's no comparison between boondocks states like Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, Georgia to say major economic hubs in the Northeast like New Jersey, New York, Massachusets, Connecticut et cetera.



What industries does NJ have? lol I'm very curious.

Only four states are smaller in size than New Jersey, yet New Jersey ranks ninth in the nation in population and has the highest population density of any U.S. state, facts owing in part to its proximity to both New York City and Philadelphia but also indicative of its economic importance. New Jersey is a major industrial center, an important transportation corridor and terminus, and a long-established playground for summer vacationers.

The state is noted for its output of chemicals and pharmaceuticals, machinery, and a host of other products, including electronic equipment, printed materials, and processed foods. Bayonne is the terminus of pipelines originating in Texas and Oklahoma, and there are oil refineries at Linden and Carteret. The long history of heavy industry in New Jersey has left the state with the largest inventory of U.S. Superfund sites, and industrial cleanup is an important issue in its cities.

New Jersey has been a leader in industrial research and development since the establishment in 1876 of Thomas Edison's research facility in Menlo Park. Color televison, the videotape recorder, and the liquid crystal display were invented in New Jersey corporate research labs. Today telecommunications and biotechnology are major industries in the state, and the area near Princeton has developed into a notable high-tech center. Finance, warehousing, and "big box" retailing have also become important to the state's economy, attracting corporations and shoppers and to a large extent reversing New Jersey's onetime role as a suburb for commuters to New York City and Philadelphia.

A tremendous transportation system, concentrated in the industrial lowlands, moves products and a huge volume of interstate traffic through the state. Busy highways like the Garden State Parkway and the New Jersey Turnpike are part of a network of toll roads and freeways. New Jersey is linked to Delaware and Pennsylvania by many bridges across the Delaware River. Traffic to and from New York is served by railway and subway tunnels and by the facilities of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey—the George Washington Bridge, the Lincoln and Holland vehicular tunnels, and three bridges to Staten Island. Airports are operated by many cities, and Newark airport (controlled by the Port Authority) ranks among the nation's busiest. Shipping in New Jersey centers on the ports of the Newark Bay and New York Bay areas—notably Port Newark and Port Elizabeth—with relatively minor seagoing traffic on the Delaware as far north as Trenton.

This extensive transportation network also serves to maintain New Jersey's well-known vacation industry, reaching ocean beaches, inland lakes, forests, and mountain resort areas. Atlantic City's emergence as a casino gambling center has made it the largest visitor destination in the state.

In addition to being a center of industry, transportation, and tourism, New Jersey is a leading state in agricultural income per acre. The scrub pine area of the southern inland region is used for cranberry and blueberry culture. North of the pine belt the soil is extremely fertile and supports a variety of crops, most notably potatoes, corn, hay, peaches, and vegetables (especially tomatoes and asparagus). Dairy products, eggs, and poultry are also important. Commercial and residential expansion, however, has taken over much of the state's farmland, and New Jersey is now almost one third developed.





Reference:

http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/us/new-jersey-economy.html
 
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Bro what is the salary range for Civil Engineers, Mechanical Engineers, Industrial Engineers in say Shenzhen , Shanghai?
Now Chinese graduate student from University as Electronic/ Mechanical/ Industrial engineer generally is about 3,000~4,000 RMB per month, after 2~3x years working experience it can reach 5,000~6,000 RMB salary ... after 4~5x years the salary rise up to 7,000 ~ 20,000 RMB per month, it depends on ur past project experiences & benefits of designed goods bring to company. Usually near 30 age, it can reach about 10,000 RMB wage ... but as far as i knew, the max wage is end at 15,000~20,000RMB per month working for the company.

After that some Chinese engineers will choose to become Project Manager / Account Executive / Company salesman,they can earn more money via sales. Rests will waiting for the chance to start their own company, produce goods and sell them to the market, finally become the BOSS & earn millions money from whole world market.

Here supply chain & produce chain of "Made in China" is very mature, what u need do is design & produce goods then money will coming into ur wallet.:D
 
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they said Vietnamese had better pay rate than Indonesia, but unfortunately their production and output manufacturing is still low compared to us very low indeed, with less than 40 billion US dollar output in manufacturing sector albeit their 100 million population, their productivity is still less compared to us who had 250 population but can put 230 billion US dollar manufacturing output. Their wage is expensive, but their productivity is much lower.

it's either

1. Their people is much demanding
2. Lazy
3. Uneducated
4. Their infrastructure is sucks
One of my relative went to Vietnam before years ago. He says men in Vietnam do not work and their wife work for them. In Malaysia, the state of Kelantan is similiar. Champa legacy? Yes there are hardworking men, but this is the general perception in Vietnam 10+ years ago. I do not know if this has change recently.

Many Vietnamese women left Vietnam looking for overseas husband. So far I only knew one Vietnamese women married to a Hawker stall in Malaysia(I did ask her the reason).

Before you start to flame me or claim I'm trolling, i google search an article.
Vietnamese Men In General - Good or Bad? - Vietnam Talking Points
 
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One of my relative went to Vietnam before years ago. He says men in Vietnam do not work and their wife work for them. In Malaysia, the state of Kelantan is similiar. Champa legacy? Yes there are hardworking men, but this is the general perception in Vietnam 10+ years ago. I do not know if this has change recently.

Many Vietnamese women left Vietnam looking for overseas husband. So far I only knew one Vietnamese women married to a Hawker stall in Malaysia(I did ask her the reason).

Before you start to flame me or claim I'm trolling, i google search an article.
Vietnamese Men In General - Good or Bad? - Vietnam Talking Points

so the legacy of Vietnamese bride is not without reason
 
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