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US suspends cooperation on jet engine tech

Rahul Singh

Oct 25, 2019

India and the United States have suspended cooperation on jet engine technology under the Defense Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI) that seeks to deepen bilateral cooperation and identify opportunities for sharing of high-end defence technologies, a senior Pentagon official revealed on Thursday.

The US export controls is one of the reasons for dropping the cooperation on jet engine technology, she said.

Under the 2012 DTTI, India and the US set up joint working groups (JWGs) for cooperation on aircraft carriers and jet engine technology.

“The original project (jet engine technology) we have is suspended right now but we are talking about other potential engine working groups. We could not come to an understanding of what exportable technologies will be useful to India and we did run into a challenge in terms of US export controls,” said Ellen Lord, the US under secretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment.

She was interacting with a small group of reporters after holding talks with secretary (defence production) Subhash Chandra at the 9th DTTI group meeting held here. She said there was an enormous amount of aircraft technology that India and the US could work on together. “I know that in the past, there have been frustrations with progress under DTTI, but I can assure you that we are making considerable progress.”

She said the two sides had come a long way since the JWG format began in 2015. “The JWG co-chairs are working hard to show progress on current projects and identify new ones. The technologies that they are discussing are significant...”

She also said that India and the US had agreed to a joint statement of intent (SOI) that would deepen defence technology cooperation and interoperability consistent with shared national security interests.

Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retd), additional director general, Centre for Air Power Studies, said, “It would have been over optimistic to expect the Americans to give us high-end engine technology — no one parts with such strategic know-how. We must go for realistic technologies that we lack -- and there are many such techs which the US can give.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...engine-tech/story-XZQgIx93RecYudiIrT8cJL.html
 
US suspends cooperation on jet engine tech

Rahul Singh

Oct 25, 2019

India and the United States have suspended cooperation on jet engine technology under the Defense Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI) that seeks to deepen bilateral cooperation and identify opportunities for sharing of high-end defence technologies, a senior Pentagon official revealed on Thursday.

The US export controls is one of the reasons for dropping the cooperation on jet engine technology, she said.

Under the 2012 DTTI, India and the US set up joint working groups (JWGs) for cooperation on aircraft carriers and jet engine technology.

“The original project (jet engine technology) we have is suspended right now but we are talking about other potential engine working groups. We could not come to an understanding of what exportable technologies will be useful to India and we did run into a challenge in terms of US export controls,” said Ellen Lord, the US under secretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment.

She was interacting with a small group of reporters after holding talks with secretary (defence production) Subhash Chandra at the 9th DTTI group meeting held here. She said there was an enormous amount of aircraft technology that India and the US could work on together. “I know that in the past, there have been frustrations with progress under DTTI, but I can assure you that we are making considerable progress.”

She said the two sides had come a long way since the JWG format began in 2015. “The JWG co-chairs are working hard to show progress on current projects and identify new ones. The technologies that they are discussing are significant...”

She also said that India and the US had agreed to a joint statement of intent (SOI) that would deepen defence technology cooperation and interoperability consistent with shared national security interests.

Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retd), additional director general, Centre for Air Power Studies, said, “It would have been over optimistic to expect the Americans to give us high-end engine technology — no one parts with such strategic know-how. We must go for realistic technologies that we lack -- and there are many such techs which the US can give.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...engine-tech/story-XZQgIx93RecYudiIrT8cJL.html

India as usual over-estimates its importance. First , they dropped out of russian 5th generation program because Ruskis refused to share critical technology(TOT) with India , despite India heavily investing it. Now , the Americans have refused them as well in jet technology.

Critical technology of avionics , engines and missiles are state secrets that nobody would share no matter how many howdy modi events are organised.
 
That was a looooooooong ''co-operation'' if it has really ended.
 
We need to unite in Asia to develop this critical tech and then share with each other. Only China is doing anything. West have 150 years head start on jet engine when rest of the world was still colonized.
 
US suspends cooperation on jet engine tech

Rahul Singh

Oct 25, 2019

India and the United States have suspended cooperation on jet engine technology under the Defense Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI) that seeks to deepen bilateral cooperation and identify opportunities for sharing of high-end defence technologies, a senior Pentagon official revealed on Thursday.

The US export controls is one of the reasons for dropping the cooperation on jet engine technology, she said.

Under the 2012 DTTI, India and the US set up joint working groups (JWGs) for cooperation on aircraft carriers and jet engine technology.

“The original project (jet engine technology) we have is suspended right now but we are talking about other potential engine working groups. We could not come to an understanding of what exportable technologies will be useful to India and we did run into a challenge in terms of US export controls,” said Ellen Lord, the US under secretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment.

She was interacting with a small group of reporters after holding talks with secretary (defence production) Subhash Chandra at the 9th DTTI group meeting held here. She said there was an enormous amount of aircraft technology that India and the US could work on together. “I know that in the past, there have been frustrations with progress under DTTI, but I can assure you that we are making considerable progress.”

She said the two sides had come a long way since the JWG format began in 2015. “The JWG co-chairs are working hard to show progress on current projects and identify new ones. The technologies that they are discussing are significant...”

She also said that India and the US had agreed to a joint statement of intent (SOI) that would deepen defence technology cooperation and interoperability consistent with shared national security interests.

Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retd), additional director general, Centre for Air Power Studies, said, “It would have been over optimistic to expect the Americans to give us high-end engine technology — no one parts with such strategic know-how. We must go for realistic technologies that we lack -- and there are many such techs which the US can give.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...engine-tech/story-XZQgIx93RecYudiIrT8cJL.html

AVM Manmohan Bahadur's (retd) terming the cooperation as "over optimistic" sounds correct.

Time might prove me wrong but for now it seems that hurdles in any future cooperation with the US for India do not lie in the White House but in the US Congress. The younger generation of Congresspersons (especially Congresswomen) have been very observant of Modi's atrocities in Kashmir and they have forced the senior Congresspersons to reconsider their views on India. This is not going to go away anytime soon. Any attempts to share advance technology with India is likely to receive backlash from the Congress. It is likely the present cooperation would have been curtailed by the Congress sooner or later, if their attention had been directed to them. Thus, a possible Congressional intervention might also have been one of the reasons to rollback cooperation. US Congress put Nixon Administration to a corner over sharing rocket technology with Japan, one of their supreme allies. India has not yet achieved similar status as Japan. So they need to consider what the Congress could do to cooperation efforts taking place with them.
 
Related to India's S-400 request? I wouldn't be surprised
Nah! Quite impossible the US would ever share jet engine tech with any nation that do not have the tech already.
Money cannot buy you real high tech
Stealing works well I guess.
No surprises there.
There is a surprise, never knew there was plans for sharing jet Engine tech from US. Like Duh obviously they weren't going to share it.
 

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