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U.S request Pakistan to Close PAK - IRAN border

I don't know how much truth is in this report.

We need to stay neutral and close that border.

Don't want spillover effect when we have a potential war to face on Eastern side.

BTW this is not our first rodeo.

We were involved in war against Soviets in AFG while iran-iraq war was happening for nearly the whole decade and we were eyeballing Indians after brasstacks during same time.

We did not have even nukes then.

So we will tough this out as well.

Why should we close the border, we didn't kill the Iranian General and have nothing to fear from the Iranians?
 
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Is it a confirmed news? Has Pakistan officially accepted receipt of such a request?
 
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closing and monitoring border is good but u.s may want it to restrict oil supplies from iran to Pakistan in any future conflict with india when oil supplies from sea are interrupted
Do you want every Tom,Dick and Harry to cross the border and come into Pakistan???
 
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No doubt both the US and Iran will try their best to involve Pakistan as much as possible.



During that time period, General Zia-ul-Haq lost Siachin Glacier (1983) and General Pervez Musharraf lost Quaid Post (1987).


That hell hole of a frozen place. Pakistan can recover that again but the cost outweighs the benefits. Better to have their division stuck in frozen hell than somewhere else.

You do realize that at the same time we outmaneuvred soviets on the west and indians on the east during brasstacks. It is all about priorities.

Siachen will be made a priority when we are finished with other things.
 
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Why should we close the border, we didn't kill the Iranian General and have nothing to fear from the Iranians?

We don't fear iranians. However, the iranians are passively involved in weakening our position there by looking the other way while Indians/Afghans use iranian territory to support proxies here. Kulbushan is enough as evidence for that.

We are already fencing it up. Better to close it up for good owing to losses that are incurred from drug and fuel smuggling as well as human losses due to support to proxies.

Iran is a neighbor but not an ally.

Staying neutral means maintaining stats quo.


We have a bigger fish to fry on the east. Iranians/Arabs can fight each other.

We only have an obligation to protect the holy sites in Hejaz. Rest assured, we already have Special Forces/Regular elements in the kingdom.
 
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We don't fear iranians. However, the iranians are passively involved in weakening our position there by looking the other way while Indians/Afghans use iranian territory to support proxies here. Kulbushan is enough as evidence for that.

We are already fencing it up. Better to close it up for good owing to losses that are incurred from drug and fuel smuggling as well as human losses due to support to proxies.

Iran is a neighbor but not an ally.
Stop spreading misinformation there is no evidence that Iran and Kulbushan were aligned. Iranians have enough Shias to do anti-Pakistan work but have chosen not to use them. How do you know they are not our allies?
 
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Stop spreading misinformation there is no evidence that Iran and Kulbushan were aligned. Iranians have enough Shias to do anti-Pakistan work but have chosen not to use them. How do you know they are not our allies?

Keep thinking that while more Mubarak patels keep using Iranian side to infiltrate.

What kind of ally recruits Shias from Quetta/Parachinar and other areas for proxy war in Syria.

What kind of ally threatens his fellow "brother" (Suleimani himself threatened Pakistan in Feb).

What kind of ally uses shia clergy to get the citizens of Pakistan be more loyal to Iranian cause than Pakistan's.

What kind of ally allows our enemy to have a port in our backyard for use by India.

Anyone who wants to fight for Arabs/Iranians can go to those countries. Both of them are not fighting for supremacy of Islam but for their own nationalistic goals.

I will say again. Iran is a neighbor but not an ally.
 
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Keep thinking that while more Mubarak patels keep using Iranian side to infiltrate.

What kind of ally recruits Shias from Quetta/Parachinar and other areas for proxy war in Syria.

What kind of ally threatens his fellow "brother" (Suleimani himself threatened Pakistan in Feb).

What kind of ally uses shia clergy to get the citizens of Pakistan be more loyal to Iranian cause than Pakistan's.

What kind of ally allows our enemy to have a port in our backyard for use by India.

Anyone who wants to fight for Arabs/Iranians can go to those countries. Both of them are not fighting for supremacy of Islam but for their own nationalistic goals.

I will say again. Iran is a neighbor but not an ally.

We have had more spies coming in through Islamabad airport and Karachi airports than the Iranian border, allowed in by free visas given out like confectionery.

You are taking his "threat" out of context perhaps because you are a hindjew in disguise. Attacks were being carried out on Iran through Pakistan territory and he asked , understandably, for Pakistan to stop it and this was sensationalised by our media. We have no objection to India using Chahabar as long as it doesn't undermine our national security. Anyone can go anywhere and it is none of your business, you can bitch as much as you want. My main point is a devil you know is better than the the devil you don't know and a regime change for Pakistan will be disastrous.
 
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I don't know how much truth is in this report.

We need to stay neutral and close that border.

Don't want spillover effect when we have a potential war to face on Eastern side.

BTW this is not our first rodeo.

We were involved in war against Soviets in AFG while iran-iraq war was happening for nearly the whole decade and we were eyeballing Indians after brasstacks during same time.

We did not have even nukes then.

So we will tough this out as well.

Brother we have been fighting with our neighbors or for them.i think its time we should stay neutral just like we did when we didnt get into Yemen mess.
Iran should do whatever it wants with us and us can do whatever it wants,one thing for sure we cant let our soil be used in this war.
 
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We have had more spies coming in through Islamabad airport and Karachi airports than the Iranian border, allowed in by free visas given out like confectionery.

You are taking his "threat" out of context perhaps because you are a hindjew in disguise. Attacks were being carried out on Iran through Pakistan territory and he asked , understandably, for Pakistan to stop it and this was sensationalised by our media. We have no objection to India using Chahabar as long as it doesn't undermine our national security. Anyone can go anywhere and it is none of your business, you can bitch as much as you want. My main point is a devil you know is better than the the devil you don't know and a regime change for Pakistan will be disastrous.

You lost me there at the point where you called me hindjew. .


The devil that you know has territorial ambitions in the middle east and has influenced and intends to influence our internal policies (starting all the way from iskander mirza).


The devil that you know also looked the other way while BLA operated and financed their operations via smuggling and got support from India/AFG from their territory.

They are not an ally. Period!

I don't give a flying duck about them and their regime deserves all the suffering they will get.

Brother we have been fighting with our neighbors or for them.i think its time we should stay neutral just like we did when we didnt get into Yemen mess.
Iran should do whatever it wants with us and us can do whatever it wants,one thing for sure we cant let our soil be used in this war.

As said by DG ISPR we will stay neutral.
 
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You lost me there at the point where you called me hindjew. .


The devil that you know has territorial ambitions in the middle east and has influenced and intends to influence our internal policies (starting all the way from iskander mirza).


The devil that you know also looked the other way while BLA operated and financed their operations via smuggling and got support from India/AFG from their territory.

They are not an ally. Period!

I don't give a flying duck about them and their regime deserves all the suffering they will get.



As said by DG ISPR we will stay neutral.

You are making fabricated allegations without any substantial proof and evidence and all based on the capture of one spy who came in from Iran. if you think the Mullah's are bad, then wait till you see a regime as hostile as the Indians installed on our western border.
 
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You are making fabricated allegations without any substantial proof and evidence and all based on the capture of one spy who came in from Iran. if you think the Mullah's are bad, then wait till you see a regime as hostile as the Indians installed on our western border.

I would rather trust opinions of friends and family in the military rather than some internet wannabe who is labelling everyone who does not agree with him a hindjew.

About the regime change. If you think these mullahs are good then I have a piece of land that I could sell you.
 
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I would rather trust opinions of friends and family in the military rather than some internet wannabe who is labelling everyone who does not agree with him a hindjew.

About the regime change. If you think these mullahs are good then I have a piece of land that I could sell you.
My grandfather was the first soldier of Pakistan, I have more relatives in PA then you ever will in 10 generations. But then you could be a relative of mine so I will not say more.
 
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