Typhoon, Rafale no match for China’s MMRCA

[HZR2011]

you used too much"we will",you've been buying from other for 60 years,and you will still keep that way,good luck,not our business.

Yes,WE WILL......in the last 60 years did india had issued any MMRCA tender? NO
But now it is,why ,coz we want to buy the technology and fill the gap and continue developing technologies from present generation

By the way remember,INDIA will get all the 4th Gen Tech from MMRCA and will get ALl the 5th gen Tech from Russia ,including the 5th Gen Engines,coz we pay

 

[illusion8]

you used too much"we will",you've been buying from other for 60 years,and you will still keep that way,good luck,not our business.

We are quite a way behind the US or Russia in def tech so the only option right now is to buy and in the meanwhile also try to develop our R&D and know how to reduce our dependencies and build our own systems, we have built quite a few def equipments on our own also our defense services need and demand for the the best so buying is the present option.

 

[illusion8]

China will work but rest will play video games?

Its good that China is pushing us, helps to wake us up cos we were very lax towards our defense requirements.

 

[beijingwalker]

general comparison from wikianswers:

5th generation fighters under development:
PLAAF: J-XX (WS-15), J-13, J-14
J-20 (first flight December 2010) - Indigenously build in China
J-13 - 5th gen plane under development
J-14 - 5th gen plane under development

IAF-Sukhoi PAK FA - Which is a Russian made plane with no Indian Research and Development involved
MRCA - 5th gen under development

4.5th generation fighters in service:
PLAAF: J-11B (WS-10), J-10B, Su-30MKK, JF-17

IAF-Sukhoi 30MKI , LCA TEJAS MK-1
4.5th generation fighters under development:
PLAAF: J-16 (Advanced version of J-11B)

IAF: LCA TEJAS

4tH gereration fighter
PLAAF: J-10A , JF-17* (Not yet in PLAAF but is already in service with Pakistan AF)

IAF- Mirage2000, MIG29

3rd Gen fighter
PLAAF: J-8, J-7, JH-7, Q5, H6
IAF: Mig-21, Mig-21Bis, Mig-21 Bison



Notes:

1) Tejas will be powered by American General Electric F-404/GE-F-414 engines.

2) FGFA will be powered by Russian Saturn 117S engines.

3) MCA will NOT be powered by indigenous engines.

4) China has the capability to develop various 4+ generation fighters indiginously while India is still a few decades behind China in mastering the technology

Read more: Indian air force vs PLAAF

 

[Donatello]

The haters can call them every name under the sun but the fact is, today, PLAAF is equipped with tens of dozens squadrons of home produced aircraft of every category, with the likes of J-10 and J-20 gearing China amongst the top players. Other countries with decades of involvement in aircraft building experience, have little or nothing to show for them self. !!

Haters always hate.....

 

[raavan]

Su-30 Mki is superior than any aircraft in China,s inventory.....Pak FGFA will counter J-20 .



United States House Committee on Armed Services chairman Howard McKeon said on the J-20 "my understanding is that they built it on information that they received from Russia, from a Russian plane, that they were able to copy".

 

[HZR2011]

general comparison from wikianswers:

126 MMRCA with top notch jammers and battle proven missile of EF and Rafale with its Aesa radar's is all we need to take down all ur 3rd and 4th Genaration Aircrafts.... and some Sukhoi's to bomb the bunkers with CBU bunker busters

 

[beijingwalker]

ok,guys,we just research and build our own stuff and you keep buying from others,see what the different ways take us in 10 years.past 5 years were the great years for the development of Chinese air force.my bet is on China.

 

[SQ8]

I don't believe in the abilities of any of the Chinese fighter jets. Chinese have the habit of overstating most things, including its economy, technological achievements or military. Their fighters, at best, are unproven in the battle field.

71.. multiple exercises.. WOT... nope.. you are factually incorrect.

 

[beijingwalker]

in China we still believe that people should be proud of something you can make,not something you bought.

 

[HZR2011]

ok,guys,we just research and build our own stuff and you keep buying from others,see what the different ways take us in 10 years.past 5 years were the great years for the development of Chinese air force.my bet is on China.

In india,we buy ,fill the gap of technology here and use the same technology on our fighters and start developing from the proven and best systems from world wide...

u took 10 years,but we will take 1 years to get that tech into our fighters and start developing it further...


BTW remembers, we don't steal or copy,we BUY with $$$....we never want to buy 10 EF and make another 200 Copy of them

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in China we still believe that people should be proud of something you can make,not something you bought.

Then wat do chineese people feel when they copy ??? like copying Su-27 ?? and Iphones etc etc???

 

[Tumba]

in China we still believe that people should be proud of something you can make,not something you bought.

Or smthing that you have bought earlier and copied it, and most of time you were not able to make good copies so you bought some more and tried to copy that also... the Great CCP Chinese civilization

 

[beijingwalker]

In india,we buy ,fill the gap of technology here and use the same technology on our fighters and start developing from the proven and best systems from world wide...

u took 10 years,but we will take 1 years to get that tech into our fighters and start developing it further...


BTW remembers, we don't steal or copy,we BUY with $$$....we never want to buy 10 EF and make another 200 Copy of them

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Then wat do chineese people feel when they copy ??? like copying Su-27 ?? and Iphones etc etc???

it's not easy to master the technology to indeginously build good aircrafts ,they involved so much technology in hundreds of fields,if you think you buy and then you can make,that's very naive,if that was the case till now no less than a hundred countries should 've had the abilities to make planes,but the truth showed the otherwise.

as for copying,every country copies every country's technology,US copies Germany's,Russia copies US,US copies Russia,Japan copies US.....the list goes on for ever,but how come only very very few countries can be able to use reverse technology to make their own things and most countries just cant? you 've got to be up to a level to copy others.otherwise even they teach you and tell you everything,you still can not do it.

 

[beijingwalker]

China over 4 decades trained tens of thousands of aviation engineers and workers in designing and manufaturing air crafts and China even has several universities only for aviation and aircraft designing and building.you wont be able to master everything in building aircrafts in years,it takes decades and thousands of experts,specialists ,engineers ,technicians and workers.

 

[HZR2011]

it's not easy to master the technology to indeginously build good aircrafts ,they involved so much technology in hundreds of fields,if you think you buy and then you can make,that's very naive,if that was the case till now no less than a hundred countries should 've had the abilities to make planes,but that true showed the otherwise.

as for copying,every country copies every country's technology,US copies Germany's,Russia copies US,US copies Russia,Japan copies US.....the list goes on for ever,but how come only very very few countries can be able to use reverse technology to make their own things and most countries just cant? you 've got to be up to a level to copy others.otherwise even they teach you and tell you everything,you still can not do it.

U talk as if India is Saudi Arabia with full of Arabs without sense of technology....

Don't u think ,if india can build a Heli,Attack chopper,BM,ABM,Hypersonic missile,Fighter jets,Nukes,Nuclear power plants....can't they get the radar and all the technologies they get from the west and use it on their platforms?? are u so naive??