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Let's get the facts right on submarines Australia may buy
False information from the Defence Department to Parliament is ruling out German submarines in favour of Japanese, writes Brian Toohey.
by Brian Toohey
Vice Admiral Tim Barrett, the navy chief, told a Senate committee last week he was "professionally embarrassed" by a written answer Defence gave to a parliamentary question about the capability of German submarines. Much more than embarrassment is at stake. Defence relied on false information that would rule out the world's biggest exporter of subs as a contender in Australia's most expensive military purchase ever.
In its recent answer to the independent South Australian senator Nic Xenophon's question, Defence said it "is not aware of any German-design submarines that carry US weapons". Publicly available material shows six navies, including Israel and South Korea, operate German-designed subs carrying US weapons using the German combat system ISUS90. Germany also exports subs to other countries that chose different weapons.
At Wednesday's Senate committee hearing, Xenophon gave Barrett examples of why Defence should have been aware that its written answer was incorrect. Barrett conceded he was "alarmed" and "professionally embarrassed" by the error.
The error matters because Defence wants Australia's new subs to carry US torpedoes and missiles. The level of incompetence Defence revealed strongly suggests that – despite an abundance of staff – it is not up to the job of providing an objective assessment of the subs on offer from Germany, France and Japan. Despite its shoddy treatment by Defence, Germany has exported 100 subs since World War II, France 20 and Japan none.
There are also other concerns about Defence's familiarity with subs produced by the three competing manufacturers, following a written answer Xenophon received to another question on February 9. Defence said Australian submariners had not gone on an underwater trip on French-designed subs since 2001, but had done so on German-designed ones on a number of occasions, most recently in 2014. It said no "sea rides" had been conducted on Japanese subs. This did not stop the Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, strongly indicating to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last April that Australia would buy Japan's Soryu subs, without a test drive, let alone a proper study of the alternatives.
Many politicians wrongly assume Australia must install a US combat system on its next sub to be interoperable with US forces. In fact, the US operates closely with many military forces that have differing combat systems, including those of South Korea, Japan, the UK, Germany and Australia.
The initial US combat system on the existing Collins Class subs was an expensive flop. Now the US AN/BYG-1 has been retrofitted to five of the six Collins in a protracted process over the past 12 years. The system is not used in any other conventional subs and there is no good reason to use it in Australia's new ones.
Abbott wants the Soryu, partly to signal to China that he wants to boost Japan's military status. The only criteria should be what's the best sub for Australia. Defence considers the 12,000 kilometre range for the 4200 tonne Soryu to be inferior. A new design may change this. Singapore is buying an upgraded German Type 214 whose official range is 19,000 km. Unlike the Soryu, it's equipped with missiles to attack anti-submarine helicopters, planes and ships from underwater. Despite regularly "sinking" US warships in exercises, Defence says an upgraded Type 214 is too small at 2000 tonnes.
The French are offering Australia a conventional version of their Barracuda nuclear sub that is not yet operational. Nor is the Germans' offer – a 4000-tonne Type 216 with vertical air lock to launch underwater drones or 22 special forces troops. It only needs a crew of 34 compared to the Soryu's 65.
Given the increasing burden of keeping the Collins going, a decision on its replacement is needed urgently, unless an interim lease on existing subs is adopted. Treasury and Finance, plus outside specialists, must be involved in defining what's really needed and in assessing the options. Neither Defence nor Abbott can be left to make an ill-informed pick.
Let's get the facts right on submarines Australia may buy | afr.com