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STOVL aircrafts are very important to the countries that only have LHD.

But to China, LHD doesn't need to do the job of CV or CVN, as marines don't have to operate independently, unlike USA.

well in any case we can only wait & see, only time will tell, once Russia's STOVL aircraft is ready by 2025 at the earliest, will China buy few dozens of them just as how they bought the Su-35 to know the technology better? or will China just ignore the Russian STOVL & not buy any of it!
 
well in any case we can only wait & see, only time will tell, once Russia's STOVL aircraft is ready by 2025 at the earliest, will China buy few dozens of them just as how they bought the Su-35 to know the technology better? or will China just ignore the Russian STOVL & not buy any of it!
USA wastes more money to make marines more independent, but China doesn't need to do that.
 
well in any case we can only wait & see, only time will tell, once Russia's STOVL aircraft is ready by 2025 at the earliest, will China buy few dozens of them just as how they bought the Su-35 to know the technology better? or will China just ignore the Russian STOVL & not buy any of it!


Pardon, but there won't any future Russian STOVL aircraft and surely not by 2025.
Plain impossible.
 
Pardon, but there won't any future Russian STOVL aircraft and surely not by 2025.
Plain impossible.
refer back to post #291 where I shared a link that states Putin himself ordered the development of the STOVL fighter and its included in state rearmament programent
the Russian deputy prime minister himself said it, isn't that a good enough source to confirm Russia is working on it?
Borisov also said it would take 7 to 10 years till it's ready for serial production the article was back in 2018.

furthermore it's not like Russia has no experience with VTOL technology (eg: the Yak-141).

@Deino here is another link, it's basicly the same source (the Russian deputy prime minister) but reported by the global times:-
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1116486.shtml

"Russia is developing a new vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) jet for aircraft carriers as ordered by President Vladimir Putin, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said Tuesday."

"He said the Russian Defense Ministry began this work last year and normally it will take seven to 10 years before serial production of such aircraft."
 
refer back to post #291 where I shared a link that states Putin himself ordered the development of the STOVL fighter and its included in state rearmament programent
the Russian deputy prime minister himself said it, isn't that a good enough source to confirm Russia is working on it?
Borisov also said it would take 7 to 10 years till it's ready for serial production the article was back in 2018.

furthermore it's not like Russia has no experience with VTOL technology (eg: the Yak-141).

@Deino here is another link, it's basicly the same source (the Russian deputy prime minister) but reported by the global times:-
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1116486.shtml

"Russia is developing a new vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) jet for aircraft carriers as ordered by President Vladimir Putin, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said Tuesday."

"He said the Russian Defense Ministry began this work last year and normally it will take seven to 10 years before serial production of such aircraft."


And you take this seriously?
Come on ... they don't get the Su-57 running as promised, none of their carrier projects as announced came to fruition and this one will also fail.

I'm very sorry, but anyone who takes such announcements for granted is plain naive.

And even if Mr Putin would order rain in the Sahara, nothing would happen.
 
a while ago on the russia defence forum (not the one on PDF) , Russia military enthusiast pretty much confirmed work on the VTOL, these are not just some fanboys, when they suspect a military project is a fiasco they are the first ones to call it out, for example some of them mock the proposed "Shtorm" carrier by calling it "super superior super aircraft carrier" & some called the "Lider" as "anime destroyer".

back when information about the intecontinential nuclear torpedo the Status-6 was "leaked" Russia haters immediatly dismised it by saying that it's just cartoon or things like that "haha nothing Russia ever works" & now? Russia launched a nuclear submarine to carry this torpedo.

as for the Su-57 being "a failure" no, at least at first it was not a failure but then once they spent several billions of dollars on developing it, when the Russians actually wanted to buy it, they realized "wtf, after spending all this money & years on developing it now we can't even buy it because we have no money".

Russia haters are very similar to China haters, it's just like how whenever China launches a new giant warship, China haters would say (Haha made in China it will sink in one month ).
 
a while ago on the russia defence forum (not the one on PDF) , Russia military enthusiast pretty much confirmed work on the VTOL, these are not just some fanboys, when they suspect a military project is a fiasco they are the first ones to call it out, for example some of them mock the proposed "Shtorm" carrier by calling it "super superior super aircraft carrier" & some called the "Lider" as "anime destroyer". Russia is not the USSR.

back when information about the intecontinential nuclear torpedo the Status-6 was "leaked" Russia haters immediatly dismised it by saying that it's just cartoon or things like that "haha nothing Russia ever works" & now? Russia launched a nuclear submarine to carry this torpedo.

as for the Su-57 being "a failure" no, at least at first it was not a failure but then once they spent several billions of dollars on developing it, when the Russians actually wanted to buy it, they realized "wtf, after spending all this money & years on developing it now we can't even buy it because we have no money".

Russia haters are very similar to China haters, it's just like how whenever China launches a new giant warship, China haters would say (Haha made in China it will sink in one month ).
I'm sorry but Russia is the largest source of overhyped weaponry. Just look at the Su-57 ... even India dropped out of the programm because of the aircraft's numerous deficiencies. @Deino is right ... these are just fanboy projects with no economic or technical base. Even the ones that manage to go to prototyping stage ... such as Putin's much vaunted nuclear cruise missile that recently exploded ... encounter massive obstacles that halt development.

well in any case we can only wait & see, only time will tell, once Russia's STOVL aircraft is ready by 2025 at the earliest, will China buy few dozens of them just as how they bought the Su-35 to know the technology better? or will China just ignore the Russian STOVL & not buy any of it!
I'm sorry but this is impossible, both from a technological and monetary perspective. Even if Russia magically managed to develop STOVL, as LKJ explained, the PLAN would have no need for such aircraft.
 
refer back to post #291 where I shared a link that states Putin himself ordered the development of the STOVL fighter and its included in state rearmament programent
the Russian deputy prime minister himself said it, isn't that a good enough source to confirm Russia is working on it?
Borisov also said it would take 7 to 10 years till it's ready for serial production the article was back in 2018.

furthermore it's not like Russia has no experience with VTOL technology (eg: the Yak-141).

@Deino here is another link, it's basicly the same source (the Russian deputy prime minister) but reported by the global times:-
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1116486.shtml

"Russia is developing a new vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) jet for aircraft carriers as ordered by President Vladimir Putin, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said Tuesday."

"He said the Russian Defense Ministry began this work last year and normally it will take seven to 10 years before serial production of such aircraft."

Russia has endured non-stop blockades by zionist-America. Whether it be the "Oil Glut" to deliberately drive down the price of oil, in order to hurt Russia's military modernization. Or whether it be a barrage of sanctions to hamper or stall Russia's Navy from gaining momentum in modernization. Ukraine is another one of zionist-America's attempts to "cut Russia down to size." One thing is clear, the zionist-West is scared shitless about Russia, because they don't control Russia and because Russia has enough nukes to make NATO have a collective aneurysm.

Today Russia has successfully thwarted zionist-western attacks. Repulsed zionist-american threat in Ukraine and re-unified Crimea back into the Russian territorial union. Russia has also reversed zionist-american and their allies attempt to make Syria into another Libya. And despite attempts by zionist-West to strangle Russia's economy, the latter has taken giant steps in insulating its economy, shielded from zionist-West's attacks. During all of this monkeying by the american-british idiots, Russia has managed to gradually build a very potent and modern frigate, Admiral Gorshkov (Project #22350). In addition, they are building very powerful corvettes capable of inflicting heavy destruction upon any enemy.

People do not understand how well Russia has mitigated the traps laid by zionist-pigs. Today, Russia stands tall above it's enemies and countries like China, Pakistan, Central Asian Republics, Iran, Turkey, Venezuela, Indonesia and Vietnam etc would do well to forge strong friendship with it. Today's Russia is NOT the former Soviet Union. Today's Russia is smart, efficient, dedicated partner and a powerhouse not to be messed with.

With time, the world would witness the rise of a Russian Navy that would out the former Soviet Navy to shame. It will take time, but in the coming future, Russian Navy would be a very powerful and lethal navy, that zionist-America would think 10 times about challenging.
 
@Nasr I agree with your political views 100% but I disagree regarding the future of the Russian navy specificaly their surface fleet, Russians themselves on military forums mock their own shipyards all the time because of how ineffecient they are at ship building, it takes them too long to build ships, however Russia is no doubt second only to the US in development of missiles aircrafts & their engines & that is why they resorted to VTOL because they cant have a new aircraft carrier till 2032 (in a best case scenario).
VTOL is nothing new to Russia
if they want to go super cheap then they could just produce a yak-141 & modernize it with their latest radars & weapons.
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in any case we are starting to stray away from the title of thread , the type 075 so I will not say anything anymore regarding Russian VTOL.
 
Russia has endured non-stop blockades by zionist-America. Whether it be the "Oil Glut" to deliberately drive down the price of oil, in order to hurt Russia's military modernization. Or whether it be a barrage of sanctions to hamper or stall Russia's Navy from gaining momentum in modernization. Ukraine is another one of zionist-America's attempts to "cut Russia down to size." One thing is clear, the zionist-West is scared shitless about Russia, because they don't control Russia and because Russia has enough nukes to make NATO have a collective aneurysm.

Today Russia has successfully thwarted zionist-western attacks. Repulsed zionist-american threat in Ukraine and re-unified Crimea back into the Russian territorial union. Russia has also reversed zionist-american and their allies attempt to make Syria into another Libya. And despite attempts by zionist-West to strangle Russia's economy, the latter has taken giant steps in insulating its economy, shielded from zionist-West's attacks. During all of this monkeying by the american-british idiots, Russia has managed to gradually build a very potent and modern frigate, Admiral Gorshkov (Project #22350). In addition, they are building very powerful corvettes capable of inflicting heavy destruction upon any enemy.

People do not understand how well Russia has mitigated the traps laid by zionist-pigs. Today, Russia stands tall above it's enemies and countries like China, Pakistan, Central Asian Republics, Iran, Turkey, Venezuela, Indonesia and Vietnam etc would do well to forge strong friendship with it. Today's Russia is NOT the former Soviet Union. Today's Russia is smart, efficient, dedicated partner and a powerhouse not to be messed with.

With time, the world would witness the rise of a Russian Navy that would out the former Soviet Navy to shame. It will take time, but in the coming future, Russian Navy would be a very powerful and lethal navy, that zionist-America would think 10 times about challenging.
Can you please stop flame baiting this thread by spreading political nonsense? Calling containment efforts against Russia "Zionist-pigs" is quite offensive and not substantiated at all. Portraying Russia as the good guy is deeply naive all things considered ...

Today's Russia is NOT the former Soviet Union.
Indeed. That is why Russia no longer has the technical or economic base to develop sophisticated weapons systems. Just look at the numerous Su-57 setbacks or the current situation of the Armata tank. No wonder why Putin has to go on state television and announce overhyped "wonder weapons" to catch the world's attention.
 
posts from #302 to #304 should be moved (if possible) to the Russian navy section on PDF, because from post #302 & on we didn't say a single world about China let alone the Type 075, further more the posts are now purely political & our political views are clearly 180 degrees different which means there will be no end to posts defending or hating one country or another.
 
posts from #302 to #304 should be moved (if possible) to the Russian navy section on PDF, because from post #302 & on we didn't say a single world about China let alone the Type 075, further more the posts are now purely political & our political views are clearly 180 degrees different which means there will be no end to posts defending or hating one country or another.


Will be done when I'm back home
 
USA wastes more money to make marines more independent, but China doesn't need to do that.

Correct, US marine corps are the only troops that president can commit directly without approval of the congress.
 
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STOVL aircrafts are very important to the countries that only have LHD.

But to China, LHD doesn't need to do the job of CV or CVN, as marines don't have to operate independently, unlike USA.
China will be busy on building real aircraft carrier in 20 years. LHD performance/cost is low for China when your opponent is super power.

LHD can not survive by itself when your opponent is strong.
 

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