Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[大汉奸柳传志]

maybe Japan needs nuclear weapons along with SK then

I agree. Japan should totally get nukes along with ICBMs.

 

[Oldman1]

You better to check the air superiority from both side.

PS, with the factor of the DF-21D/DF-26 and DF-ZF, Japan cannot last more than few hours in a naval battle with China.

Unless you built anti sub ballistic missile, its pretty much too late for China to do anything against dozens of Japanese subs. And you don't have that kind of air superiority with U.S. backing Japan up.

 

[Place Of Space]

Unless you built anti sub ballistic missile, its pretty much too late for China to do anything against dozens of Japanese subs. And you don't have that kind of air superiority with U.S. backing Japan up.

Chinese Navy has CY-1 anti submarine ballistic missiles. The missiles could be launched from warships, and airplanes.

 

[Oldman1]

Chinese Navy has CY-1 anti submarine ballistic missiles. The missiles could be launched from warships, and airplanes.

China built an anti submarine ballistic missile that can be launched from surface warships and planes? How can they do that?

 

[Place Of Space]

China built an anti submarine ballistic missile that can be launched from surface warships and planes? How can they do that?

I check it. it's not ballistic missile, it's intelligent anti-sub missile.

 

[Oldman1]

I check it. it's not ballistic missile, it's intelligent anti-sub missile.

Ok well thats different.

 

[Place Of Space]

Ok well thats different.

It's wast of money they use ballistic missiles to attack subs. I never heard of such weapons. The CY-1 can reach 85 km away submarines.

 

[Oldman1]

It's wast of money they use ballistic missiles to attack subs. I never heard of such weapons. The CY-1 can reach 85 km away submarines.

Never know, if you want to keep submarines far from your shores, it be something. Equip it with torpedoes or something. Just like anti ship ballistic missile.

For example, ASW aircraft has to fly low and drop a parachuted torpedo. Now there are development for high altitude torpedo dropped from 30,000ft.

 

[Place Of Space]

Never know, if you want to keep submarines far from your shores, it be something. Equip it with torpedoes or something. Just like anti ship ballistic missile.

For example, ASW aircraft has to fly low and drop a parachuted torpedo. Now there are development for high altitude torpedo dropped from 30,000ft.

You should know subs are very weak. Chop a little hole, the sub will be destroyed and officers will die all in the steel tomb. Ballistic missiles take with heavy warhead to attack destroyers, aircraft carrier, it sounds more reasonable.

 

[Oldman1]

You should know subs are very weak. Chop a little hole, the sub will be destroyed and officers will die all in the steel tomb. Ballistic missiles take with heavy warhead to attack destroyers, aircraft carrier, it sounds more reasonable.

Well if the hull of submarines are very weak, then just put a depth charge on a ballistic missile.

 

[BoQ77]

For the first time, Japan is using the live target practice for its new anti-ship missile.

The Shirane class, a 7500 tons retired DDG that was built in the 1970s.

Japan to Test its New XASM-3 Supersonic Anti-Ship Missile Against Shirane-class Destroyer

The title is for offensive purpose. It's not suitable to the military forum.
If you can, please show us any statement that "Japan want to sink..."

It's not weapons but when, where and how to use those show us what they want.

If 052D violates Japan territorial water and was sunk by any weapon from Japan. We can't call that as "Japan want to sink ..." . IN that case the invader forced them to do that as defensive act.
And yes, Japan is going to test an airborne supersonic AShM which is capable to sink a big destroyer.

052D isn't the only destroyer at the size of Shirane class destroyer.

Again, when, where and how they use that weapon show the real meaning.

Btw, XASM-3 is superior in parameters, anyone know any potential competitor to it ?
@Nihonjin1051

 

[Aepsilons]

The title is for offensive purpose. It's not suitable to the military forum.
If you can, please show us any statement that "Japan want to sink..."

It's not weapons but when, where and how to use those show us what they want.

If 052D violates Japan territorial water and was sunk by any weapon from Japan. We can't call that as "Japan want to sink ..." . IN that case the invader forced them to do that as defensive act.
And yes, Japan is going to test an airborne supersonic AShM which is capable to sink a big destroyer.

Again, when, where and how they use that weapon show the real meaning.

Btw, XASM-3 is superior in parameters, anyone know any potential competitor to it ?
@Nihonjin1051

Glad to see you posting here again, my friend.

 

[Slave_to_the_waffle]

Ok well thats different.

CY-1 is similar to the US RUM-139 VL-ASROC. It uses a rocket motor to propel a homing torpedo into the water at high-speeds and at long ranges. Cool, but nothing spectacular.

RUM-139 contains a MK 46 light-weight torpedo:

This is an old RUR-5 ASROC launched from a MK 112 "Matchbox" from a Knox class frigate:

Obviously not a ballistic missile, but that idea has been thrown around too. Using land based ballistic missiles as ultra-long range ASROCs.

This wouldn't be a DF-21 class of missile, but rather a smaller battlefield weapon like WS-1:

The sensors aren't there yet for ultra-long ranged ballistic missiles to be viable delivery systems. The distances are too great and the submarine is likely to shake detection enough to escape even the best tracking right now.

Sven's given a nice rundown of why its hard to retain a lock on a submarine:

So you want to detect a submarine?

It's viable, just exploratory right now. These are land-based though, not sea or air-launched.

 

[nang2]

not surprising. they want to sink every chinese war boat. so do indians. all navy want to sink other navy's boats. that is what war boat is made for - sinking other war boat.

japanese bruised ego doesn't do them good. Neither does chinese inflated ego for Chinese.

 

[cnleio]

type052D DDG built by DaLian shipyard, 2nd shipyard in China building 052D