Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

the state of development of 055 is all but speculation, as it is Chinese defence tradition, like the j-20 and j-31 etc,

so at the moment all I have said are stuffs we can gather from reputed Chinese forums nothing more than that...



ur right, my mistake, anyway tico is just over 9000 tons

Tico - 9800 tons
ABIIA - 9200 tons
ABII - 8500 tons
ABI - 8400 tons

 

[cirr]

Actually bad misconception, Kolkata class is to be inducted in January 2014. It's already in sea trials. Weighing 8000 short tons and carrying more VLS tubes and a Tata/BEL EMCCA Aegis system it makes a great match to Type 52D.

2014 we'll see the first Arihant in commision and see also another one launched, with the hulls ready and infrastructure too we'll see these beauties in commision all of em by 2018. That's not including a second Akula and 3 moe follow on Arihants.

By 2018 as you say we'll receive the P15B and P17B s being churned out. We'll have 2 carriers and you're still stuck with making the Lianoning operational. You're best bet is 40000 - 60000 ton helo - carriers by then. Also regarding an IN and PLAN slug fest you guys operate Romeo class subs in no.s 22 and further variants of it. Effectively we can say just 35 of your diesel subs are of same era as IN our oldest being a 1986 build.

Same applies for your frigates and old dleet, meaning your fleet numbers will remain more or less same. We on the other hand are expanding.

In sea trials？Do you have pics showing it is actually in sea trials？

The best estimate is that the lead ship won't get induction before 2018.

 

[Type 052D]

In sea trials？Do you have pics showing it is actually in sea trials？

The best estimate is that the lead ship won't get induction before 2018.

It's will be before they will have white servants, that's for sure. On topic: How many Type-052D will be needed in an typical PLAN CBG and will the Type-055 Cruiser play an more substantial role in fleet defence?

 

[Slavery]

In sea trials？Do you have pics showing it is actually in sea trials？

The best estimate is that the lead ship won't get induction before 2018.

Yup, sea trials in their dreams

Take everything any Indian says with a pinch of salt. They were supposed to put a man into space before 2015 and its not even close. I don't even need to tell about the LCA....what's it been 30 years?

 

[cirr]

A few type 52DD? Not derailing here but thats a good laugh. The type 52DD doesn't even have a AEGIS system. We have a TaTa BEL EMCCA system. The Kolkata class are in sea trials. Do a google search, Go on. Now there is torpedo integration going on. Arihant went critical in june. We'll float IAC one in august 15.

BTW USA and China are in 2 leagues. It has a tonnage larger than next 11 navies.

BTW how's lianoning , does it have a operation aerial combat complement?

Cheers.

Ever heard of “the Star of the Sea” system？

Your ignorance about China in general and the PLAN in particular knows no bounds。

Here is a pic of two DDGs that are equipped with the Chinese equivalent of “AEGIS”：

As for the Liaoning，it will soon have a full complement of J-15s and J-15Ss，designed by and made in China。What do you have？Russian designed and made Mig-29Ks？Which bit of the CV is Indian？Where are your indigenous efforts？

Has the reactor in Arihant gone critical？ This so-called Crown of IN is the biggest joke in the world's submarine family。Shameful really。

What‘s your opinion of the UFOs spotted by the great great IA in the sky over the LAC area of Sino-Indian border？

 

[Beast]

Chinese trolling? Really cause it's as bad as how your economy looks now. Anyways thank you for your time. If you can make it do google arihant , kolkata destroyer , vikramaditya ac and navy black panthers.

Ask your India to look after your economy first before talk about China. Rupee value is falling like hell. Fancy you talk about our economy. Don't forget we got 3 trillion reserve. India got nothing. Our military modernisation will continue the next five years no matter what while India one will halt.

As for your INS Kolkata class is still an empty shell. What sea trial? Are you dreaming? Prove it with photo. I challenge you.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ask your India to look after your economy first before talk about China. Rupee value is falling like hell. Fancy you talk about our economy. Don't forget we got 3 trillion reserve. India got nothing. Our military modernisation will continue not the next five years no matter what while India one will halt.

As for your INS Kolkata class is still an empty shell. What sea trial? Are you dreaming? Prove it with photo. I challenge you.

Even Kolkata does commission in 2018, it will face the Type 055 AKA the Arleigh Burke Flight III on steroid, so Kolkata is not going to compete with China's destroyers.

 

[danger007]

Their INS Kolkata still looks like this ugly shape and they claim its going to be in service by 2014 and in sea trial now?

Bunch of dreamer..

yes you are right... Unlike floating casino( So AC carrier),we didn't arrange pink color light setting on the Kolkata class destroyer ........

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Their INS Kolkata still looks like this ugly shape and they claim its going to be in service by 2014 and in sea trial now?

Bunch of dreamer..

Initially, they were intented to compete with the Type 052C, now the Type 052C is done and will not be produced anymore, but the INS Kolkata is still not finished as a newborn.

It is going to face the Type 055A in the near future even it can be commissioned at the soonest.

 

[Beast]

yes you are right... Unlike floating casino( So AC carrier),we didn't arrange pink color light setting on the Kolkata class destroyer ........

I challenge you Indian for photo of INS Kolkata destroyer going sea trial and you all troll still cant post anything?

Want me to post photo of Type052C firing HQ-9 200km range SAM to spite you?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Type 052D 91800 shp CODAG
Type 052C 81000 shp CODAG
Burke 108000 shp COGAG
Tico 81000 shp COGAG
Akizuki 64000 shp COGAG

The Type 052D will be the pinnacle evolution of the DDG with the CODAG propulsion, it is only lesser than Burke, so can't wait to see the mighty Type 055A as China's first DDG with the COGAG propulsion.

 

[Beast]

Type 052D 91800 shp CODAG
Type 052C 81000 shp CODAG
Burke/Tico 108000 shp COGAG
Akizuki 64000 shp COGAG

The Type 052D will be the pinnacle evolution of the DDG with the CODAG propulsion, it is only lesser than Burke and Tico, so can't wait to see the mighty Type 055A as China's first DDG with the COGAG propulsion.

When PLAN Already commission 12 of Type055 cruiser. INS Kolkata will still in this crap shape.

Then the Indian troll will still talk about their INS Kolkata destroyer will be more superior than any Chinese warship with French crap, Israel crap and every crap sub system they can import from.

Serious, no joke!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

When PLAN Already commission 12 of Type055 cruiser. INS Kolkata will still in this crap shape.

Then the Indian troll will still talk about their INS Kolkata destroyer will be more superior than any Chinese warship with French crap, Israel crap and every crap sub system they can import from.

Serious, no joke!

Do you think the Akizuki is overrated? I can't believe many CDers are claiming this toy is superior to the Type 052C/D.

Because it uses a COGAG propulsion system, but look it is propulsion is weak compared to both Type 052C/D, meanwhile its so-called AESA band radar is a joke compared to the Type 052C, let alone the Type 052D.

The Type 052D can wipe down the inferior Japanese/Korean Aegis without a sweat.

 

[Beast]

Do you think the Akizuki is overrated? I can't believe many CDers are claiming this toy is superior to the Type 052C/D.

Because it uses a COGAG propulsion system, but look it is propulsion is weak compared to both Type 052C/D, meanwhile its so-called AESA band radar is a joke compared to the Type 052C, let alone the Type 052D.

The Type 052D can wipe down the inferior Japanese/Korean Aegis without a sweat.

Basically the weak point will be the hull. As it using many new system on a small hull. The weakest point will be ASW as it can carry only one chopper.

I will rate them equal, Japan warship has many strong defense system but they lack offensive weapon. Their most powerful anti-ship missile armed is only Harpoon III which max range will be 180km. No LACM.

While PLAN warship will have no such worry. Even the Type052C armed with Eight C-602 crusie missile with 400km range to attack warship or land targets.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

The akizuki class is closer to a frigate compared to a destroyer. 32 cell vls certainly does not put it on par with actual destroyers. The only part that comes close is the 127 main gun that Koreans and Japanese navy's like to put on everything apparently.\

Wouldn't put too much trust on radars that small

on a 5000 ton ship

compared these monsters on a 7000-8000 ton ship

In Capability the akizuki is somewhere between the 054 class frigate and 052C class destroyer which makes sense as that's where its tonnage puts it at.