Two Indian soldiers killed in LoC skirmish: Indian army

[KS]

Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor
Just chatted with an Army jawan at Rajouri after the honour ceremony. His words to me: "Rajputana Rifles unit tha sir. Badla to lenge hi."

 

[haviZsultan]

Mutilation accusation is standard indian practice whenever indian misadventure across international border fails. In 2001 indian BSF/army troops intruded 2 kn inside Bangladesh attacked BOP. When only handful of BDR (Bangladesh rifles) retaliated more dozen BSF died. Bangladeshis later recovered these indian intruder bodies but indians used the same "mutilation" propaganda screen to shield indian intrusion, attack and killing. So indians can die screaming about "mutilation" but its is standard indian propaganda to hide their crime.

Yeah I remember that... theres a whole video about that on youtube... Pakistanis and Bangladeshis finding common cause to bash India.

I believe idune's comment shouldn't be ignored. This has happened in the Bangladesh case as well. Similar claims were made by some RSS, Sangh Parivar supporting major on the border.

 

[Bossman]

Pak raiders probably commandos

The Pakistani soldiers wanted to decapitate the second dead Indian soldier and take his head back as well but could not pierce through his vertebrae with their knife or hatchet quickly enough as they wanted to retreat across the Line of Control as soon as possible after their intrusion on Tuesday in Mendhar, in Poonch sector of Jammu and Kashmir, sources said.

Slash marks were also made across the thighs and chests of the two bodies by Pakistani troops.
Sources said the Pakistani Armymen were clad in black uniforms, which indicates they were probably commandos belonging to the Pakistan Army’s Special Services Group. It was this that made the Indian Army positive that these were Pakistani troops, and not militants, even as India lodged a strong protest with Pakistan on Tuesday against the killing of two Indian soldiers and decapitation of one of them as well as the intrusion by regular Pakistani troops into Indian territory. India reminded the Pakistanis that such acts were a grave violation of the rules of exchange by any civilised and professional Army.
The Indian Army will also order a court of inquiry into this incident in which two soldiers of an eight-soldier border patrol were killed by the Pakistani troops who took advantage of heavy fog and crossed the LoC. The two soldiers, who were walking ahead, were separated from the rest of the border patrol.
[“The LoC is steady and stable since yesterday,” Brigadier G.S. Sangha of the Srinagar-based 15 Corps said, our special correspondent reports from Srinagar. He added, “There has been no repercussion here (along the portion of LoC passing through Kashmir region) of Tuesday’s incident in Mendhar sector either.”]
India will most certainly reject Pakistani suggestions of a probe by a UN body as it suspects that this is Pakistan’s ploy to drag in the UN to internationalise the Kashmir issue. There was speculation, meanwhile, that Pakistani troops of the 29 Baloch Regiment assisted Pakistani SSG commandos in the intrusion.
External affairs minister Salman Khurshid voiced fears about the Pakistani action affecting bilateral ties, saying, “The violation of ceasefire is of great concern... if not immediately contained, it will have an adverse impact.”


Pak raiders probably commandos | The Asian Age

I cannot imagine the crap you Indians are willing to believe in. This article is full of contradictions and holes bigger than the one in India Gate. If someone other than the two dead soldiers saw the Pakistani soldiers in black uniforms, why didn't they do any thing about it i.e. try to save their comrades? BTW Pakistani armoured corp, some police and rangers also wear black uniforms. Black uniform means nothing. Also at one point it says that the two dead soldiers were separated from the main patrol and then it says someone saw the attackers. Total crap.

 

[Da-Bang]

Perhaps you seem to forget that your so called super duper army has raped thousands and thousands of innocent civilians and slaughtered them and still you proclaim to be angels, seriously you are too deluded, get a life. You need to look at your army's track record then question the other side.

Our Army let go 100,000 of your prisoners without a scratch on them.

Our Army returned your dead guys in Kargil, one of them was even given bravery medal after initially refusing to accept his body then accepting it in half-rotten stage.

Your Army has just shown it is lacking morals and is honorless and a disgrace to profession of soldiering.

It should instead be called Pakistani Mercenary force instead.

It is a disgrace to call these guys soldiers.

 

[KS]

Martyr Lance Naik Hemraj Cremated With Military Honours | news.outlookindia.com

Lance Naik Hemraj, one of the two soldiers brutally killed by Pakistani troops in J&K, was cremated tonight with full military honours at his native village Khairar amid chanting of 'Hemraj Amar Rahen'.

 

[kurup]

Soldiers beheaded after being shot: Indian Army

Jammu: The Indian Army said Wednesday that two of its soldiers were first shot dead by Pakistani troops and then beheaded, and one of the heads had not been found.

"The head of one of the soldiers is yet to be recovered," said Brigadier J.K. Tiwari, deputy general officer commanding (GOC) of the 25 Division headquartered in Rajouri, 180 km from here.

He identified the dead soldiers as Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh and Lance Naik Hemraj.

He said they were "escorting a patrol party near the Sona Gali area close to the LoC (Line of Control)" in Jammu and Kashmir when they were shot dead and beheaded.

The army had not been able to recover the head of Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh, he said.

The brigadier was speaking to the media after attending the guard of honour for the two soldiers killed Tuesday.

According to him, eight soldiers led by two escorts -- the victims -- was patrolling the area, about 600 meters inside the LoC.

"There was very thick fog and visibility was almost nil," he said, adding that the Pakistani soldiers were in black dress and had laid an ambush.

They opened fire at the Indian patrol, killing the two soldiers in the front.

In the meantime, the other soldiers in the patrol opened retaliatory fire. The gun battle continued for about 25 minutes.

When the rest of the patrol reached the dead men, they found that they had been beheaded.

Brig. Tiwari did not rule out possibility of the raiders having taken the head of one of the soldiers with them.

"The bodies of the soldiers were recovered after the firing stopped," he said.

The bodies were sent to their hometown after a wreath laying ceremony and guard of honour at Rajouri.

Soldiers beheaded after being shot: Indian Army


What is the difference between terrorists and PA ??

 

[idune]

They opened fire at the Indian patrol, killing the two soldiers in the front.

In the meantime, the other soldiers in the patrol opened retaliatory fire. The gun battle continued for about 25 minutes.

When the rest of the patrol reached the dead men, they found that they had been beheaded.

This indian propaganda in epic proportion. How head of indian soldiers gone missing in middle of gun battle? So other side was risking their life just to get head of indian soldiers head? Who sold this flopped bollywood script to indians? Looks like bollywood DRDO spinning cheap propaganda script and selling it to easy and eager inidians.

 

[Imran Khan]

Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor
Just chatted with an Army jawan at Rajouri after the honour ceremony. His words to me: "Rajputana Rifles unit tha sir. Badla to lenge hi."

ok then be ready for next badla too 1 ke badly 2 and 2 ke badly 4 and yes pakistani solders don't talk to us they just do it then we know ohh its done rajput ho ya achoot we don't give a damn they are indian army for us

What is the difference between terrorists and PA ??

terrorists are those whom attack pakistani post first .what you guys think before attack on our post and kill one of our jawan? its not some tinny tonny border its PA on LOC may you guys forget it .

 

[Imran Khan]

so it was SSG lolz why we give them these knifes inhoon ne to sach main use kerni shuru ker di

 

[notorious_eagle]

This indian propaganda in epic proportion. How head of indian soldiers gone missing in middle of gun battle? So other side was risking their life just to get head of indian soldiers head? Who sold this flopped bollywood script to indians? Looks like bollywood DRDO spinning cheap propaganda script and selling it to easy and eager inidians.

Thats exactly what my question is? How did the Pakistani raiders get up close to the defending Indian soldiers during a fire fight, cut of their heads and retreat back in the middle of a fire fight? Only 3 people are capable of doing this : Sunny Deol, Rajnikant and Chuck Norris.

It is amazing how Indians will believe any propaganda that is fed to them, it appears that they loose their ability to think constructively. On a side note, SSG commandos don't wear black uniform. Only PA Armoured Corps soldiers wear this uniform, last i read there was no Armour deployed up there.

 

[Areesh]

These type of incidents will happen again. I have a feeling that India will try to do the same to seek revenge for the two soldiers that were killed by Pakistani Army. Pakistan is very weak at the moment. Pakistani Army is split and deployed all over Pakistan, mostly in troubled areas. This would be the best time and the best opportunity for India to make use of their cold start stratedgy and enter their forces in to Kashmir if they want to get the rest of the Kashmir. Once USA leaves the region then Pakistan army will have a chance to regroup and deploy most of the forces towards the Indian border and once again all the attention would be towards India all over again. I have a bad feeling that India is going to try to escalate the situation so they have a reason to attack Pakistan. Maybe 2013 is the year of war between India and Pakistan. Hopefully this doesnt happen but this is just my analyses.

They might be deployed all over Pakistan. They might fighting at different fronts. But they are not weak. And they have shown this again and again.

 

[for truth]

This indian propaganda in epic proportion. How head of indian soldiers gone missing in middle of gun battle? So other side was risking their life just to get head of indian soldiers head? Who sold this flopped bollywood script to indians? Looks like bollywood DRDO spinning cheap propaganda script and selling it to easy and eager inidians.

for what happened to understand, you need brains,not the Bangladeshi DUMBA$$ brains. the battle happened in the midst of thick fog with low visibility, and when the units starts retaliation, they just don't stand in one place, they split up to cover the area,but then again,you are a Bangladeshi,born losers, i don't need to explain these to Bangladeshis who only know to make Undies and chaddis, yet believe they are rising power.so carry on

 

[Imran Khan]

for what happened to understand, you need brains,not the Bangladeshi DUMBA$$ brains. the battle happened in the midst of thick fog with low visibility, and when the units starts retaliation, they just don't stand in one place, they split up to cover the area,but then again,you are a Bangladeshi,born losers, i don't need to explain these to Bangladeshis who only know to make Undies and chaddis, yet believe they are rising power.so carry on

yaar why so aggressive its not good

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

I doubt the validity of this entire issue, why not let the UN Observer Group ratify the issue as said by Pakistan? Our open declaration to let the UN investigate the incident shows that Pakistan is confident that there's nothing that India can pin against Pakistan but India's flat refusal to let the UN Observers investigate shows that they have skeletons in their closet.

India already don't recognise UN Observers Group , Citing Shmila Pact With Pak, which forbid to include 3rd party in j&K matter.

Pak didnt honour its Pact, Its time India also terminate its IWT or all pact it has with PAK.

PAK taken away , Killed Indian solider Gun and knife to show to UN that Indian attacked on 6th and IA left this weapon. As on 6th nothing happened like that PAK don't have any GUN and Knife to show ,thats why they didn't Compliant at that time to UN or didn't shown to Media, Now since they got Gun now(from 8th ) , they complain to UN (of 6th ) and will show to media.

Nice Story fabricated by PAK, they Know India wont compliant to UN about 8th , Since India didn't complained about Brutal Killing (Hot rod penetration in ears) , Cigarette Burning of IAF by PAK Army.

 

[Imran Khan]

I think those SSG realized it was rajputs and thats why ran off from the remaining after just ambushing two soldiers. These were the same rajputs whose single chopped off four SSG's and threw them down the highest post in Siachen, Quaid post and had it renamed after his name, now Bana post.

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lolz man they killed your two now and you are giving us ram kahani of history do you think in past wars IA just come fight and go without loses? i know it was ceasefire till IA attacked pakistan and then pak army give back a lesson thats why you guys make this 160 page thread