Two billion Muslims do nothing Shame. Retired General Asim munier is only man in 2 billions with atomic bomb

[Cash GK]

A population of 250 million with no health, education or social development with an army that is more for a security state that power projection simply is not enough to give Pakistan any meaningful strength. Unity and leadership cannot achieve anything without a functioning economy. Otherwise it will end up like Sultan Tipu: a lion, perhaps, but definitely defeated and dead.

I agree with the points made. The key ingredients for success are present, but we lack proper planning. When the standards of our generals are as low as those of Asim Munir, Anjum Nadeem, and Bajwa, and when our political class is as corrup dum and ineffective as Maryam Nawaz, Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, Zardari, and Bilawal Zardari, the nation cannot progress effectively. We are a large nation, and this fact instills fear in the hearts of our adversaries. Pakistan is a significant market where people often buy things with cash. In wealthy countries, 99% of people are under some form of debt, but in Pakistan, people buy cars, houses, and land with cash. This indicates that people have money, but they lack trust in the system. Given this situation, the young generation must fight for their future. Pakistanis need a bloodthirsty revolution, like the French Revolution.

 

[VCheng]

I also feel that, deep down, you understand what the reality is, even if you disagree with me.

You can feel whatever you wish. It has nothing to do with what I do or do not understand.

it seems clear that certain countries did not willingly and organically accept Israel; rather, it was Western-installed puppets who did.

What is clear is that Israel remains a UN member, with majority acceptance across the globe, and is even slowly establishing diplomatic and trade relationships with many Islamic countries too. In fact, that much is crystal clear.

Israel cannot survive long-term because it is not a natural and indigenous country. Ninety-nine percent of Israel's population consists of Western white people, and many hold dual nationalities. When difficulties arise, they will likely run away.

That is merely your hope and wish. I will prefer to wait and see what actually happens, and thus far, none of what you pine for is likely to happen anytime soon.

a majority of Muslims are not ready to accept the reality.

That is not my problem, since reality remains what it is whether anyone chooses to accept it or not.

politicization of Islam was mostly done by

... ... by Muslims themselves, and blaming others for it is dishonest in the extreme.

I agree with the points made. The key ingredients for success are present, but we lack proper planning. When the standards of our generals are as low as those of Asim Munir, Anjum Nadeem, and Bajwa, and when our political class is as corrup dum and ineffective as Maryam Nawaz, Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, Zardari, and Bilawal Zardari, the nation cannot progress effectively. We are a large nation, and this fact instills fear in the hearts of our adversaries. Pakistan is a significant market where people often buy things with cash. In wealthy countries, 99% of people are under some form of debt, but in Pakistan, people buy cars, houses, and land with cash. This indicates that people have money, but they lack trust in the system. Given this situation, the young generation must fight for their future. Pakistanis need a bloodthirsty revolution, like the French Revolution.

Summary: Pakistan has no influence in global affairs, and will likely not have any for decades to come, given that there is no chance of any revolutionary change in the realities of its pathetic existence for the foreseeable future.

 

[Cash GK]

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Summary: Pakistan has no influence in global affairs, and will likely not have any for decades to come, given that there is no chance of any revolutionary change in the realities of its pathetic existence for the foreseeable future.

Well clearly it looks you don't understand Pakistan well..

 

[VCheng]

Well clearly it looks you don't understand Pakistan well..

Or perhaps I know it too well.

 

[Cash GK]

Or perhaps I know it too well.

Or perhaps I know it too well.

I agree when you see Asim unjam Shahbaz, Nawaz Maryam and Bilwal then Pakistan has no chance of surviving. I agree but there are good people fighting hard for Pakistan. They will win over these traitors

 

[VCheng]

there are good people fighting hard for Pakistan. They will win over these traitors

Of course there are good people there, still. Whether they will be effective in changing anything significantly, however, remains to be seen. I can only wish them the best of luck in their efforts.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

... ... by Muslims themselves, and blaming others for it is dishonest in the extreme.

In the last two decades politicization of Islam was done by political Islamophobes, i.e. mostly non Muslims. There are also many Islamophobes among Arabs. Saudia and UAE supported Islamic extremists then switched to supporting Islamophobes. It is dishonest, unsmart, and unwise to ignore that. The foundation of politicizing Islam began with Islamophobes in Makkah during the time of the Prophet.

 

[VCheng]

In the last two decades politicization of Islam was done by political Islamophobes, i.e. mostly non Muslims. There are also many Islamophobes among Arabs. Saudia and UAE supported Islamic extremists then switched to supporting Islamophobes. It is dishonest, unsmart, and unwise to ignore that. The foundation of politicizing Islam began with Islamophobes in Makkah during the time of the Prophet.

Ah yes. If the nonMuslims do it, they are evil; if Muslims do it they are not true Muslims and therefore to be regarded nonMuslims. It is impossible to say anything against such robust logic that proves it is always the nonMuslims fault. .

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Ah yes. If the nonMuslims do it, they are evil; if Muslims do it they are not true Muslims and therefore to be regarded nonMuslims. It is impossible to say anything against such robust logic that proves it is always the nonMuslims fault. .

I did not say that. Don't put words in my mouth so you can 'win'. Silly reply.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

@VCheng you are an Islamophobe too.
Muslims can sin, make mistakes, or be ignorant. Who said they can't.

 

[Cash GK]

You can feel whatever you wish. It has nothing to do with what I do or do not understand.



What is clear is that Israel remains a UN member, with majority acceptance across the globe, and is even slowly establishing diplomatic and trade relationships with many Islamic countries too. In fact, that much is crystal clear.



That is merely your hope and wish. I will prefer to wait and see what actually happens, and thus far, none of what you pine for is likely to happen anytime soon.

this is what I am talking about.. Palestinians are indigenous people and they are fighting and giving their blood for their homeland and their opposition is running away. See the airport today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1827685852086194366

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

this is what I am talking about.. Palestinians are indigenous people and they are fighting and giving their blood for their homeland and their opposition is running away. See the airport today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1827685852086194366

French murdered over a million Algerians wanting to keep land that never belonged to them. Arab states, especially Gulf Arabs, watched the genocide. Egypt gave some military help.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

My contention is that Gulf Arabs like Saudia and UAE are pro-colonization because of their heavily materialistic outlook. You never see them genuinely supportive of freedom movements. They don't care about Vietnam.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

So it is a recipe for disaster because they run organizations like OIC and the World Muslim League. Muslims will be freed with the end of these psuedo-organizations which never cared about Muslims.

 

[VCheng]

this is what I am talking about.. Palestinians are indigenous people and they are fighting and giving their blood for their homeland and their opposition is running away. See the airport today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1827685852086194366

If that is indeed true, then victory shall soon be within Palestinian reach. I will wait for it to be declared, the sooner the better. What will this victory look like, I wonder?

Muslims can sin, make mistakes, or be ignorant. Who said they can't.

Indeed. And their predicaments today are a direct result of their own sins, mistakes and ignorance. Blaming others for these is simply lazy dishonesty, as I said before.