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TV: Israel intelligence foiled 50 Islamic State, Iranian attacks in 20 countries

That kind of intelligence?:

Turkish Defense Minister Nurettin Canikli claims Israeli engineers sabotaged 10 IAI Heron drones sold in 2005 deal; 'We have never been able to effectively make use of them. We realized that we bombed rocks and most of the targets were missed.'
Well, i don't believe him at all. Some speeches like that are aimed at internal politics.

Lol, now it was Iran? I thought it was Russia while Qatari special forces were protecting Erdogan. :rofl:
I replied him too....but remembered the phrase "Don't feed the troll", then deleted my reply.
 
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Well we were the first to come to the support of ur government & denounce the coup & it's a huge support for a president whom address his nation on facetime while all others waiting too see developments to react .. what if the coup was successful ?think of its repercussions for Iran.
also:
Iranian official said, “There was a message that was conveyed to Turkish security officials: Don’t leave the streets. This coup might be made up of several waves; it happened in Iran in 1953. When the first coup failed, they had another one ready — and they succeeded.”​
You know what's the problem with the Iranian posters in this forum... you are trying to draw other nationalities into meaningless discussions. Other day some other Iranian poster was talking some meaningless stuff about "free fall bombs" and how to name them....

Now, you are trying to start an other meaningless discussion by saying "It was a very important support to make a statement in support of the Turkish government".....nobody in Turkey was aware of that statement. I'm only aware because you guys opened a thread about it at the time...Now, you can try to drag issue, like you guys always try to do but i'm not willing to waste my time by participating in it.
 
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Why would isreal stop attacks in muslims countries. It's in their interest to spread anarchy
 
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You know what's the problem with the Iranian posters in this forum... you are trying to draw other nationalities into meaningless discussions. Other day some other Iranian poster was talking some meaningless stuff about "free fall bombs" and how to name them....

Now, you are trying to start an other meaningless discussion by saying "It was a very important support to make a statement in support of the Turkish government".....nobody in Turkey was aware of that statement. I'm only aware because you guys opened a thread about it at the time...Now, you can try to drag issue, like you guys always try to do but i'm not willing to waste my time by participating in it.
You know what is the problem with you? you reply to my comment and now you're saying you're not interested ... either you wanted the discussion or not but when you replied to me it meant you were interested .. the point is did I made you to reply? or put a gun in your head to force you to answer? so make your mind or at least have some manner.
 
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Lol, now it was Iran? I thought it was Russia while Qatari special forces were protecting Erdogan. :rofl:
All BS aside, It was Iran. you cant prove otherwise, because after it happened, Erdogan thanked Iran OR Zarif. Joke is back on you.
 
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All BS aside, It was Iran. you cant prove otherwise, because after it happened, Erdogan thanked Iran OR Zarif. Joke is back on you.
Lol, throwing a claim and then asking me to prove otherwise...
The burden of proof lies with you my friend, otherwise i can also say that you have homosexual tendencies, come prove the opposite to me.
 
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Lol, throwing a claim and then asking me to prove otherwise...
The burden of proof lies with you my friend, otherwise i can also say that you have homosexual tendencies, come prove the opposite to me.
I understand your general logic here and i am ok with that. At the minimum lets put it together. While i dont have evidence to support it now(but i remember reading about this incident and how elaborate and crazy it was), but i am VERY confident that Israel did not help Turkey during the coup attempt. Why? Because obv US supported Gulen to get Erdogan out via a coup attempt, so Israel wont have compromised the US like that indirectly by Helping Turkey thwart the coup attempt. Also, does Turkey "tolerate" Iranian intelligence in Turkish cities? because some of them in Turkish cities might have learned about the coup also due to being in Turkey and active there.
 
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I think Israel will decide what is our objective.


100% agree.. Israel is one nation that does not define its borders.. stealing, occupying and then mass ethnic cleansing as it likes... or as per it;s religion the promised land.

If our objective was to oppress the Palestinians we would have systematically killed them all but it's not.


You do realise your oppression of the Palestinans is an incredibly documented matter?.

but of course you being jewish would even argue with a lamp post....

Obviously Hamas can't defeat Israel, it's their purpose to oppress Israel, not the opposite.

really?..

interesting spin you have ....

but tell us how?...

or

may be they are cheesed off with you because you stole their land?..

There is absolutely no evidence Israel helped ISIS.

Yet Israel has benefited the most out of all of this..

Yet IDF finds it ok to attack syrian army units fighting ISIS fighters but not ISIS it;s self.

Israelis have a long habit of denying things but later the truth comes out. I remember Israel vehemently denied any plan to attack Pakistan nuke plants in the 1980s.. later the indians squealed on this.
 
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No evidence bro.
And don't send me a picture of Israeli ammunition boxes in Syria or something, this is no proof.

Would you prefer an open admission by the israeli defense secretary to arming and supporting terrorists in Syria?

Evidence is in abundance, if one ever bothered to read the historical facts about israel and how it has acted toward Syria. israel occupies (illegally) Palestine and Syria's Golan Heights. It has even fought several wars against Syria.

Only someone gullible would believe that israel hasn't supported terrorists in Syria. When your enemy is gripped in war, terrorists proliferate the land, and you'd say that israel wouldn't take advantage of such a situation?

Come on now, be real will ya! Such denial is predictably the trait of your people. A state established on a pack of lies, will always hide behind the scenes to attack it's enemies.

I think Israel will decide what is our objective. If our objective was to oppress the Palestinians we would have systematically killed them all but it's not.

Another ridiculous reasoning. israel couldn't "systematically kill all Palestinians" even if it could do it (which it wants to, open admission of israelis themselves). That would open up Pandora's Box for israel, it's repute (already hanging by a thread) would plummet to the extent where there would be governments getting toppled in most of the western world for supporting the criminal and illegal state of israel.

It is a known fact (if anyone ever bothered to observe their kind on media), that they (israelis) grudgingly bite their tongues for having to appear as though they give a $hit about International Law. When (not if) israel ever does come around to exterminate Palestinians, it would only do so, when Europe is broken and disintegrates, america is dissolves under economic collapse , Russia and Pakistan are neutralized and Iran is destroyed.

Obviously Hamas can't defeat Israel, it's their purpose to oppress Israel, not the opposite.

Ground breaking discovery!!!! Absolute genius!!!!

Hamas doesn't receive $3.8 billion, yearly from America in free weapons and financial support. Hamas doesn't the governments of the Western World at it's beck 'n' call to provide unfettered political support on the world forum. Nope, only israel has this overwhelming, lopsided, spoon-fed advantage.

Over 25 percent of Israeli citizens are non Jewish, so the claim that only Jews are considered Israeli citizens is a lie.

It's called being politically expedient. Or have you not been a student of political science? Having that statistic, is something that israelis can conveniently throw that "25%" figure at anyone opposing them. The figure doesn't hide the fact that israel has criminally encroached upon Palestinian lands in the West Bank, building so-called "Settlements" (more like colonizing) over the last 30 years. So you're "bum rap" ain't worth a lick, coz some of us actually educate and research our subject matter.

Israel isn't really a religious state. Most of Israel is secular, or at best traditional. Orthodox Jews are a minority, albeit a very fast growing one.

I find this particularly laughable, that you claim that israel is a "Secular State" when the entire basis on which israel was created, was on Judaic (religious) claim that "God gave us this (Promised) Land." If your israel is actually secular, then it's entire basis of creation of the israelis state becomes (in effect) null and void!!

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Not all of us Pakistanis would fall for your absurd posts. We aren't stupid and we certainly aren't gullible, unlike other Muslim countries your kind have managed to infiltrate.
 
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I understand your general logic here and i am ok with that. At the minimum lets put it together. While i dont have evidence to support it now(but i remember reading about this incident and how elaborate and crazy it was), but i am VERY confident that Israel did not help Turkey during the coup attempt. Why? Because obv US supported Gulen to get Erdogan out via a coup attempt, so Israel wont have compromised the US like that indirectly by Helping Turkey thwart the coup attempt. Also, does Turkey "tolerate" Iranian intelligence in Turkish cities? because some of them in Turkish cities might have learned about the coup also due to being in Turkey and active there.
How would Iranian intelligence know whats going in in the inner circles of Turkish military?
You are way over estimating things here.
 
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How would Iranian intelligence know whats going in in the inner circles of Turkish military?
You are way over estimating things here.

I am not a supporter of this. But Iran has many agents operating deep within Turkey, even before the revolution. I am sure Iran and Turkey have cut a deal. I know of many Shah supporters that had contacts in SAVAK, they were given Turkish passports before, and after the revolution to help them escape Iran. Many of them were hunted down and assassinated in Turkey by Pro-Revolution agents. Still from time to time, Turkey turns a blind eye to Iran assassinating Iranian dissidents in Turkey.
 
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What I know of Israel and MOSSAD is they could become friends with Devil if it would keep Israel save. This could be true but could be BS and not just MOSSAD many other intelligence agency so these kind of stuff.
 
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