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Turns Me Off: New Nixon Tapes Reveal Sexism Towards Indira Gandhi

Newly declassified tapes reveal Nixon’s bigotry, sexism and racism towards India and its leaders.

Asmita Nandy

Published: 04 Sep 2020, 7:49 PM IST

Former Indian PM Indira Gandhi with ex-US President Richard Nixon. | (Photo: Screenshot from YouTube video)
(Photo: Screenshot from YouTube video)

India





A conversation between former US President Richard M Nixon and his then national security adviser, Henry Kissinger, ahead of the 1971 Bangladesh war – revealed by recently declassified tapes published in the New York Times – provide shocking evidence of the duo’s bigotry, sexism and racism towards Indians.
The tapes were accessed by professor and author Gary J Bass.




The ‘Private Break’ During a Meeting With Indira Gandhi

November 1971. After a meeting with then Indian PM Indira Gandhi, Nixon and Kissinger took a private break.

Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
The president, in between bitter sparring matches with Mrs. Gandhi about the danger of war with Pakistan, suggested to Mr. Kissinger that his own sexual neuroses were having an impact on foreign policy: “They turn me off. They are repulsive and it’s just easy to be tough with them.”
A few days later, on Nov. 12, 1971, in the middle of a discussion about India-Pakistan tensions with Mr. Kissinger and Secretary of State William P. Rogers, after Mr. Rogers mentioned reprimanding Mrs. Gandhi, the president blurted, “I don’t know how they reproduce!”


Oval Office Conversations

JUNE 1971, Oval Office
Conversation between Nixon, Kissinger and HR Haldeman, the White House chief of Staff.

Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
“Undoubtedly the most unattractive women in the world are the Indian women,” said Mr. Nixon. “Undoubtedly,” he repeated, with a venomous tone.
He continued, “The most sexless, nothing, these people. I mean, people say, what about the Black Africans? Well, you can see something, the vitality there, I mean they have a little animallike charm, but God, those Indians, ack, pathetic. Uch.”


Also read:Looking Back at the Frost-Nixon Interviews as US Goes to Poll

In the same conversation, the former president seemed to have been upset with his Ambassador to India, who, two days earlier, had confronted Nixon and Kissinger in the Oval office and called Pakistan's crackdown "almost entirely a matter of genocide."
Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
Mr. Nixon now asked what “do the Indians have that takes even a Keating, for Christ, a 70-year-old” — here there is cross-talk, but the word seems to be “bachelor” or “bastard.” In reply, Mr. Kissinger sweepingly explained: “They are superb flatterers, Mr. President. They are masters at flattery. They are masters at subtle flattery. That’s how they survived 600 years. They suck up — their great skill is to suck up to people in key positions.”

Background

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Declassified documents have previously revealed that America, who was a staunch ally of Pakistan and against the liberation of Bangladesh, had used the most unparliamentary language for Gandhi. After a meeting. President Nixon had said, "She suckered us. Suckered us... this woman suckered us."
The outrage on a phone conversation with Kissinger was a result of his failure to persuade Gandhi from backing off on making a move in the 1971 Bangladesh war.
Documenting Nixon’s support to Pakistan’s human rights violations in Bangladesh in 1971, Bass, in his book ‘Blood Telegram’, also discussed how Nixon was rattled by the Americans’ sympathies for India. The author quoted Nixon as saying, “I don’t like the Indians.”
According to Bass, "The Americans who most liked India tended to be the ones that Nixon could not stand. India was widely seen as a State Department favourite, irritating the president."
Bass had noted that beyond his prejudices, Nixon’s dislike for India also stemmed from the latter’s closeness to Soviets.
"The most basic was the Cold War: presidents of the US since Harry Truman had been frustrated by India's policy of nonalignment, which Nixon, much like his predecessors, viewed as Nehruvian posturing. India was on suspiciously good terms with the Soviet,”the book says.

Kissinger’s U-Turn on India

Kissinger’s dislike towards India is also documented by Bass in his book. Another set of tapes had revealed Kissinger calling Indians “the most aggressive people around” and insulting Gandhi by calling her a “b**ch.”
Years later, in 2005, Kissinger had apologised for his remarks. He told NDTV: "(The foul language has) to be seen in the context of a Cold War atmosphere 35 years ago, when I had paid a secret visit to China when President Nixon had not yet been there and India had made a kind of an alliance with the Soviet Union.”
Kissinger, who later went onto win the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973, has had only good things to say about Gandhi and India in the later years of his life.
In the second edition of his book ‘White House Years’, Kissinger said that although he shared the views of President Nixon about Gandhi, he did not personally feel offended by her “strong personality.”
He wrote: “Mrs Gandhi was a strong personality relentlessly pursuing India's national interest with single-mindedness and finesse. I respected her strength even when her policies were hurtful to our national interest."
However, in 2019, when PM Narendra Modi posted a photograph with Kissinger, a major controversy erupted, with many left puzzled as to why a prime minister who pegs his victory on nationalism would post a picture with a former ‘India-hating’ US diplomat.


Also read:PM Talks $5 Trillion Economy Goal With Blair, Kissinger in Delhi

Why Nixon Supported Pakistan During 1971 War?

'Blood Diamond’ had documented how Nixon and his adviser Kissinger continued to support the violent crackdown on Bengalis in erstwhile East Pakistan by a junta government in Pakistan, under General Yahya Khan.
An estimated 10 million refugees fled East Pakistan into India. A study in 2008 had found that as many as 269,000 people had died during the war, leading to the liberation of 1971, when India won against Pakistan.
Nixon had a reason to support the atrocities by Pakistan, a US ally, in the Bangladesh war. As told by Kissinger to The Atlantic in 2018, the US -China talks were on the verge of a breakthrough.
Kissinger said, "These exchanges were conducted through Pakistan, which emerged as the interlocutor most acceptable to Beijing and Washington.”

“To condemn these violations publicly would have destroyed the Pakistani channel, which would be needed for months to complete the opening to China, which indeed was launched from Pakistan,” he had said.

‘Emotions Can’t Run Foreign Policy’: Twitter on Nixon-Kissinger Racism Tapes

Twitter reacted sharply to the New York Times op ed, with many saying it betrayed Nixon’s racism and sullies Kissinger’s reputation.






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Wtf? Apparently he actually has said all of those things! I thought this was another Pakistani trolling thread against Indians, but the New York Times article confirms what has been written here!
And yet Indians worship these people!!! LOL
 
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Has this pig-faced imbecile ever looked in a mirror? It must hurt double to be called ugly by this specimen.

Here is a man conflicted by insecurity and egomania - a terrible combination that resulted in the most hateful, corrupt, foul-mouthed presidency ever - and this is in a world where trump exists.
 
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Look at those agreeing with racist, wife beating and impeached Nixon. Haha
 
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Nixon was certainly personally an uncouth man. Watch 'Nixon' starring Anthony Hopkins. I used to own a VCR tape of that in the 1990s. Haha.

He did have a particular venom for Indians! I don't know if that racist guy was very fond of Pakistan either. But maybe the dashing Ayub Khan forming an alliance with the USA in the 1960s won many personal admirers for not only Ayub but also for Pakistan, when compared with the likes of L.B. Shastri and Indira Gandhi of India. Or the eloquent Western oriented Pakistani leaders like Zulfi Bhutto under Ayub. Compared with them, the Indian leadership looked stale and physically unattractive.

And later the charming, beautiful Benazir Bhutto with her perfect English visiting America as the Prime Minister of Pakistan and addressing the Joint Session of the US Congress, did some wonders like finally acquiring the F16s which had been blocked hitherto.
Americans can be very superficial!
 
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Turns Me Off: New Nixon Tapes Reveal Sexism Towards Indira Gandhi

Newly declassified tapes reveal Nixon’s bigotry, sexism and racism towards India and its leaders.

Asmita Nandy

Published: 04 Sep 2020, 7:49 PM IST

Former Indian PM Indira Gandhi with ex-US President Richard Nixon. | (Photo: Screenshot from YouTube video)
(Photo: Screenshot from YouTube video)

India





A conversation between former US President Richard M Nixon and his then national security adviser, Henry Kissinger, ahead of the 1971 Bangladesh war – revealed by recently declassified tapes published in the New York Times – provide shocking evidence of the duo’s bigotry, sexism and racism towards Indians.
The tapes were accessed by professor and author Gary J Bass.




The ‘Private Break’ During a Meeting With Indira Gandhi

November 1971. After a meeting with then Indian PM Indira Gandhi, Nixon and Kissinger took a private break.

Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
The president, in between bitter sparring matches with Mrs. Gandhi about the danger of war with Pakistan, suggested to Mr. Kissinger that his own sexual neuroses were having an impact on foreign policy: “They turn me off. They are repulsive and it’s just easy to be tough with them.”
A few days later, on Nov. 12, 1971, in the middle of a discussion about India-Pakistan tensions with Mr. Kissinger and Secretary of State William P. Rogers, after Mr. Rogers mentioned reprimanding Mrs. Gandhi, the president blurted, “I don’t know how they reproduce!”


Oval Office Conversations

JUNE 1971, Oval Office
Conversation between Nixon, Kissinger and HR Haldeman, the White House chief of Staff.

Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
“Undoubtedly the most unattractive women in the world are the Indian women,” said Mr. Nixon. “Undoubtedly,” he repeated, with a venomous tone.
He continued, “The most sexless, nothing, these people. I mean, people say, what about the Black Africans? Well, you can see something, the vitality there, I mean they have a little animallike charm, but God, those Indians, ack, pathetic. Uch.”


Also read:Looking Back at the Frost-Nixon Interviews as US Goes to Poll

In the same conversation, the former president seemed to have been upset with his Ambassador to India, who, two days earlier, had confronted Nixon and Kissinger in the Oval office and called Pakistan's crackdown "almost entirely a matter of genocide."
Unedited excerpt from The New York Times:
Mr. Nixon now asked what “do the Indians have that takes even a Keating, for Christ, a 70-year-old” — here there is cross-talk, but the word seems to be “bachelor” or “bastard.” In reply, Mr. Kissinger sweepingly explained: “They are superb flatterers, Mr. President. They are masters at flattery. They are masters at subtle flattery. That’s how they survived 600 years. They suck up — their great skill is to suck up to people in key positions.”

Background

Loading video


Declassified documents have previously revealed that America, who was a staunch ally of Pakistan and against the liberation of Bangladesh, had used the most unparliamentary language for Gandhi. After a meeting. President Nixon had said, "She suckered us. Suckered us... this woman suckered us."
The outrage on a phone conversation with Kissinger was a result of his failure to persuade Gandhi from backing off on making a move in the 1971 Bangladesh war.
Documenting Nixon’s support to Pakistan’s human rights violations in Bangladesh in 1971, Bass, in his book ‘Blood Telegram’, also discussed how Nixon was rattled by the Americans’ sympathies for India. The author quoted Nixon as saying, “I don’t like the Indians.”
According to Bass, "The Americans who most liked India tended to be the ones that Nixon could not stand. India was widely seen as a State Department favourite, irritating the president."
Bass had noted that beyond his prejudices, Nixon’s dislike for India also stemmed from the latter’s closeness to Soviets.
"The most basic was the Cold War: presidents of the US since Harry Truman had been frustrated by India's policy of nonalignment, which Nixon, much like his predecessors, viewed as Nehruvian posturing. India was on suspiciously good terms with the Soviet,”the book says.

Kissinger’s U-Turn on India

Kissinger’s dislike towards India is also documented by Bass in his book. Another set of tapes had revealed Kissinger calling Indians “the most aggressive people around” and insulting Gandhi by calling her a “b**ch.”
Years later, in 2005, Kissinger had apologised for his remarks. He told NDTV: "(The foul language has) to be seen in the context of a Cold War atmosphere 35 years ago, when I had paid a secret visit to China when President Nixon had not yet been there and India had made a kind of an alliance with the Soviet Union.”
Kissinger, who later went onto win the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973, has had only good things to say about Gandhi and India in the later years of his life.
In the second edition of his book ‘White House Years’, Kissinger said that although he shared the views of President Nixon about Gandhi, he did not personally feel offended by her “strong personality.”
He wrote: “Mrs Gandhi was a strong personality relentlessly pursuing India's national interest with single-mindedness and finesse. I respected her strength even when her policies were hurtful to our national interest."
However, in 2019, when PM Narendra Modi posted a photograph with Kissinger, a major controversy erupted, with many left puzzled as to why a prime minister who pegs his victory on nationalism would post a picture with a former ‘India-hating’ US diplomat.











Also read:PM Talks $5 Trillion Economy Goal With Blair, Kissinger in Delhi

Why Nixon Supported Pakistan During 1971 War?

'Blood Diamond’ had documented how Nixon and his adviser Kissinger continued to support the violent crackdown on Bengalis in erstwhile East Pakistan by a junta government in Pakistan, under General Yahya Khan.
An estimated 10 million refugees fled East Pakistan into India. A study in 2008 had found that as many as 269,000 people had died during the war, leading to the liberation of 1971, when India won against Pakistan.
Nixon had a reason to support the atrocities by Pakistan, a US ally, in the Bangladesh war. As told by Kissinger to The Atlantic in 2018, the US -China talks were on the verge of a breakthrough.
Kissinger said, "These exchanges were conducted through Pakistan, which emerged as the interlocutor most acceptable to Beijing and Washington.”



‘Emotions Can’t Run Foreign Policy’: Twitter on Nixon-Kissinger Racism Tapes

Twitter reacted sharply to the New York Times op ed, with many saying it betrayed Nixon’s racism and sullies Kissinger’s reputation.






NCB Arrests Rhea’s Brother Showik, Sushant’s House Manager Miranda












Nixon was certainly personally an uncouth man. Watch 'Nixon' starring Anthony Hopkins. I used to own a VCR tape of that in the 1990s. Haha.

He did have a particular venom for Indians! I don't know if that racist guy was very fond of Pakistan either. But maybe the dashing Ayub Khan forming an alliance with the USA in the 1960s won many personal admirers for not only Ayub but also for Pakistan, when compared with the likes of L.B. Shastri and Indira Gandhi of India. Or the eloquent Western oriented Pakistani leaders like Zulfi Bhutto under Ayub. Compared with them, the Indian leadership looked stale and physically unattractive.

And later the charming, beautiful Benazir Bhutto with her perfect English visiting America as the Prime Minister of Pakistan and addressing the Joint Session of the US Congress, did some wonders like finally acquiring the F16s which had been blocked hitherto.
Americans can be very superficial!








I don't think Nixon was uncouth. The reason why Watergate was allowed to happen was that Nixon was fed up with and wanted to stop the billions of dollars america was funding Israel each year. He wanted to use those funds to uplift the people of the same background as him, namely White working class americans. He didn't want anything to do with Israel or the Middle East. However, Nixon was a racist and did not particularly like Blacks, Jews or indians. In the Watergate tapes, him and Ronald Regan can be heard to be making disparaging racist remarks against all three ethnic groups listed above.
 
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