Turkish Small Arms Industry | Updates and Discussions

[mustafa erkan]

Poor Colt, FN, HK, Steyr, CZ and Kalashnikov dont know how to produce barrels.

Yes but it doesnt explain why they didnt pass 42 test at the same time like mpt.
I dont want to say we have to be too optimistic but sometimes we can wait till we see the results.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Turkish made fire arms are poor in quality and quantity over the Western weapons
For Example- the Israeli Tavor compared to the MPT 76
Tavor can fire 900 RPM, yet the MPT 76 can only fire 650 RPM
Muzzle velocity? Tavor's is 910m/s, MPT76? just 800m/s.
Weight? Tavor is lighter, weighting only 3.27kg, compared to MPT76 4.1kg
Range? Only Tavor's disadvantage, effective range of the Tavor is 550 meters, compared to 600 meters to the MPT76
Length? Tavor is 720mm long, while the MPT76 is 920mm long
Result- the Tavor is more compact, faster, its bullet got more velocity and its lighter.

 

[GOKHAN TAYLAN]

Turkish made fire arms are poor in quality and quantity over the Western weapons
For Example- the Israeli Tavor compared to the MPT 76
Tavor can fire 900 RPM, yet the MPT 76 can only fire 650 RPM
Muzzle velocity? Tavor's is 910m/s, MPT76? just 800m/s.
Weight? Tavor is lighter, weighting only 3.27kg, compared to MPT76 4.1kg
Range? Only Tavor's disadvantage, effective range of the Tavor is 550 meters, compared to 600 meters to the MPT76
Length? Tavor is 720mm long, while the MPT76 is 920mm long
Result- the Tavor is more compact, faster, its bullet got more velocity and its lighter.

kale kalıp will be game changer =)

 

[Hexciter]

Turkish made fire arms are poor in quality and quantity over the Western weapons
For Example- the Israeli Tavor compared to the MPT 76
Tavor can fire 900 RPM, yet the MPT 76 can only fire 650 RPM
Muzzle velocity? Tavor's is 910m/s, MPT76? just 800m/s.
Weight? Tavor is lighter, weighting only 3.27kg, compared to MPT76 4.1kg
Range? Only Tavor's disadvantage, effective range of the Tavor is 550 meters, compared to 600 meters to the MPT76
Length? Tavor is 720mm long, while the MPT76 is 920mm long
Result- the Tavor is more compact, faster, its bullet got more velocity and its lighter.

Such a fool that a man compares 7.62 mm with 5.56 mm

 

[NMTD]

Such a fool that a man compares 7.62 mm with 5.56 mm

Completly right!!! Comparing apples with pies!!!

He should also compare the damage and the kybernetic energy which will generated at penetration!!! LOL

 

[UkroTurk]

Neither Rate of fire nor muzzle velocity is the indicator of quality.

Quality of the gun or machine is the reliable mechanism and materials.
I just commented video that Reporter said other guns were crab!

It's very early to apriciate or blame somethings.


They made mpt,we proud of MPT, we love our rifle , Mpt is own product. Time is going to show us MPT what kind of rifle.

But if you say mpt better than Colt ar15 or others that words would be rediculus.

 

[UkroTurk]

Tavor seems cute and attractive like a desert eagle pistols for the young boys.
Indeed neither of them is working very well.
Actually who knows about their shooting comfort and mechanism.

Bulp up mechanism as Tavor aren't reliable. US , Russia and o lot of country don't prefer bulpup.

As Tavor a lot of part from Ukraine. Clever Jews make orrder spare parts to Ukraine. I don't think Tavor has mechanism better than Colt,FN or AK.

 

[Stimpy75]

You genius did you look at the calibres of the 2 rifles?you genius?!?

 

[Bismarck]

Turkish made fire arms are poor in quality and quantity over the Western weapons
For Example- the Israeli Tavor compared to the MPT 76
Tavor can fire 900 RPM, yet the MPT 76 can only fire 650 RPM
Muzzle velocity? Tavor's is 910m/s, MPT76? just 800m/s.
Weight? Tavor is lighter, weighting only 3.27kg, compared to MPT76 4.1kg
Range? Only Tavor's disadvantage, effective range of the Tavor is 550 meters, compared to 600 meters to the MPT76
Length? Tavor is 720mm long, while the MPT76 is 920mm long
Result- the Tavor is more compact, faster, its bullet got more velocity and its lighter.

Of course. We do this since decades. While this is turkish first indigenous rifle. Nobody can really expect that they can catch up us with his first step. Btw, Tavor is a 5mm rifle while mpt is a 7mm. So nobody is surprised if Tavor is lighter and shorter.

Did you know that our HK-416 or G36 muzzle velocity is so fast that even a graze shot is mortal.

 

[ziya]

Of course. We do this since decades. While this is turkish first indigenous rifle. Nobody can really expect that they can catch up us with his first step. Btw, Tavor is a 5mm rifle while mpt is a 7mm. So nobody is surprised if Tavor is lighter and shorter.

Did you know that our HK-416 or G36 muzzle velocity is so fast that even a graze shot is mortal.

Tavor has some accuracy problems according to some american gun bloggers,they showed shift pattern of accuracy
military arms channel:
What’s most interesting about doing this is that we see that, combined, all the shots exhibit serious horizontal stringing. The vertical dispersion is almost reasonable, but the horizontal dispersion appears to be 3.5″ or more (given a 3″ Shoot-N-C Bullseye target)!

I leave it to my readers to try this with the other groups shot in the MAC X95 video above, but regardless of how you analyze it, it seems the X95 may indeed suffer from a minor but still concerning accuracy defect.

 

[Tsenal]

Turkish made fire arms are poor in quality and quantity over the Western weapons
For Example- the Israeli Tavor compared to the MPT 76
Tavor can fire 900 RPM, yet the MPT 76 can only fire 650 RPM
Muzzle velocity? Tavor's is 910m/s, MPT76? just 800m/s.
Weight? Tavor is lighter, weighting only 3.27kg, compared to MPT76 4.1kg
Range? Only Tavor's disadvantage, effective range of the Tavor is 550 meters, compared to 600 meters to the MPT76
Length? Tavor is 720mm long, while the MPT76 is 920mm long
Result- the Tavor is more compact, faster, its bullet got more velocity and its lighter.

First of all, Tavor has more or less the same specs as any other modern 5.56 NATO rifle on the market and MPT-76 has more or less the same specs as any other modern 7.62 NATO rifle on the market.
Secondly, the specs you gave is for TAR-21 which has an 18.5 inch barrel vs the 16 inch barrel on MPT-76. Longer the barrel, higher the muzzle velocity.
If you want to compare an Isreali weapon with MPT-76, you have to do it with Galil ACE 52 which uses 7.62 NATO and has 16 inch barrel same as MPT-76

MPT-76 Rate of fire is 650r/m Galil ACE 52 is 650r/m
MPT-76 Muzzle velocity is 800m/s Galil ACE 52 is 800m/s
MPT-76 Effective range is 600m Galil Ace 52 is 500m

Specs alone are not good enough to determine which is the better rifle anyway. You need to wain until MPT-76 enters use.

 

[UkroTurk]

Soon we will compare MPT 55 with other .223 calibers.
MPT 55 with .223 caliber is being manifactured.

We love our HK416-417 clones assault rifles. Because they are made in Turkey and they have been copied from the best assault rifle"HK 417".



There is no magic manifacturing factors.
Same caliber guns have equal velocity.
100 m/s or 200 m/s diffrents dont make great gun.
Although Velocity subject to ammunition and little bit lenght of barrel.

There are a lot of ammo types.
What will you do with your high velocity, if your rifle doesnt work

 

[xenon54 out]

Guys Hurshid trolled you once again.

 

[bsruzm]

Guys Hurshid trolled you once again.

I feel like there are sleeping Hurshit's on forum lol

 

[Tsenal]

Guys Hurshid trolled you once again.

Who's Hursid? I'm new to the forum.