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I mentioned this so many times. A lot of people dont realise why these intellectuals were executed or deported. They were not innocent but enemies of the state. People dont realise Ataturk did not go on a mass execution of imams only the ones who betrayed the state during the Turkish independance war.
 
MKA's oppression against Muslim.
I wish, I haven't seen that coming from a Turkish member.
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"KacSaatOldu" those, who manage the account, will have plently of time to ask themselves that lol
 
I wish, I haven't seen that coming from a Turkish member.
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"KacSaatOldu" those, who manage the account, will have plently of time to ask themselves that lol


Shouldn’t surprise you considering the posts we’ve seen from him. Every crticism of rte and akp results in threats. Any islam crtitic post reveals levels of radicalism that makes me wonder how the f a turk can be like that.
 
Atatürk made multireligious Turkey to fully Muslim Turkey, he founded Diyanet... just because he created a secular Republic you guys have still a grudge against him? He was not against Muslims but the parasite sects who infiltrated the state.

This type of butthurt is common among Greeks and Armenians, deal with it amk.
 
Lol, typical propagandist headlines that misrepresent the actual studies.

So every if we go by the lined study in the article (done by KONDA research)----overwhelming majority of Turks and Turkish youth are still deeply religious :lol: 95%+ of Turkish people identify themselves as Muslims (according to the linked article's sources itself). 65% of youth fasts for Ramadan (that's 2/3!!). Infact, the study linked in this article claims that percentage of Turks saying their daily prayers (Namaz) rose from 40% in 2008 to 43% in 2018.

But I bet none of you fellas cared enough to actually read the article, and read the linked study.

So you see, how dishonest Western liberal media is. They want Turkey to be less Islamic. Hence they cherry pick and exaggerate the 'decline of religion' narrative in Muslim world (They did the same with Princeton Arab Barometer Study published last year).

Islamic religiosity is a strength of Turkey. It provides a certain bond of unity among Turks beyond just the ethnic lineage. Furthermore, secular sections of Turkish society exhibit negative aspects of Westernized life such as low birth rates, less patriotism, and more affinity to 'globalized' world culture than one's own culture. These things are very well studied in various papers.....ya'll want me to link them here (Most of them are from Turkish universities themselves).

I was reading Turkish birth data for 2019. Its going bad for Turkey---with nationality fertility rate falling to a low of 1.88 kids per woman. Turkey will become much more older than France or even Russia at this rate, while not developing as much as them in critical technologies. No wonder Erdogan emphasizes on birth rates so much. He knows his country is heading towards a cliff from where it is almost impossible to recover.

Islamic religiosity = Good for Turkey.

Don't mix extremist Islamic dogma with religiosity. One is good for Turkey, other is not.



Correct.
I visit Turkey every couple years and i can confirm people indeed get less religious so i can say that i have a regular outside view of the socieity, the new generation knows less about religion than me and i would say i have a good understanding of Islam even thought im not so religious anymore.
I know you would wish for Turkey to get more religious but the opposite is the case and the trend accelerated in the last 10 years for which AKP is also to be blamed for.






You were saying?


Thank god he died like a dog, Atesi bol olsun O.C.'nin, darisi onla el sikanlarin basina...

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Well akp and rte got a lot of trust, but it’s eroding away so we’ll see in next election. Unless rte declares war to try postpone election.
 
Turkey can no longer be contained in the small post-WW1 shell the West had forced it into. We're quickly becoming a "medium power" and eventually we need to rebuild our empire. We have many small, suffering nations around us looking up to us for example and direction. If we can use religion as a unifying force to achieve our goals, than we should do it. If you're a hardcore secular or atheist, I don't blame you. In that case just think of Islam as a means to an end. The old Turkey is dead. And the New Turkey is rising fast. Even the most anti-Turk retired Greek generals are starting to consider the New Turkey as a growing force to reckon with.

Adamin uzuntusu suratindan belli. :)

 
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Turkey can no longer be contained in the small post-WW1 shell the West had forced it into. We're quickly becoming a "medium power" and eventually we need to rebuild our empire. We have many small, suffering nations around us looking up to us for example and direction. If we can use religion as a unifying force to achieve our goals, than we should do it. If you're a hardcore secular or atheist, I don't blame you. In that case just think of Islam as a means to an end. The old Turkey is dead. And the New Turkey is rising fast. Even the most anti-Turk retired Greek generals are starting to consider the New Turkey as a growing force to reckon with.

Adamin uzuntusu suratindan belli. :)



Let's talk about some real sh!t. Let's put our political choices aside.

The Turks were for a long time feared by the west. Tales of the Turks predate Islam. Some will say that the Ottoman empire was naturally going to collapse. However the truth is that for the last few hundred years of the empire, outside forces had interfered.

The Europeans employed many of the minorities from within the empire to use religion as a weapon against the modernization. As Europe was steadily becoming more advanced, they funded Islamists within the Ottoman empire to squash similar progress.

Their plans worked until they lost against the Turkish nationalists. Ataturk completely dumbfounded the west not only by defeating them but also by rapidly modernizing the country. The west didn't anticipate this. After WW1 & the War of Independence Turkey was in recovery mode and didn't really pose a threat.

After WW2 the west could redirect some of its attention to Turkey. It knew that an Islamized Turkey would be easier to control and thus installed Menderes. This was a beginning. The defense industry died in this era...

The real problems begin in the 80s when the Saudi's pump billions into Turkey in order to spread Sunni radicalism and Wahhabism. This ideology has been a useful tool for the west for a long time by the way.

In the late 80s and 90s we saw something very scary which most people have completely forgotten about. Both Kurdish separatists and Radical Islamists had united in their efforts to destroy the state. Keep in mind that this was also when the Turkish defense industry was restarted and the country was on its way towards self sufficient. So someone tried to stop us.

Now we get to the part where Erdoğan fans will hate me. Erdoğan was put in power by the west. There are documents dating back to the late 90s which state that the Kemalists must be replaced by Islamists in order for Turkey to be easily controllable. I'm not making this up.

If we look back at the events which happened since Erdoğan came to power we can see that it was loss after loss for the country. The hood incident, peace with PKK, the arrests of the general's, peace with PKK again... But no one cares because the economy was good.

So what was the breaking point. At what point did things start to get better. There are actually two events. One gradual and the other abrupt.

After the so-called coup attempt (attempted civil war) many of the Kemalist general's were released and started trickling back into the military or into other powerful institutions.The pro-Atlantic Islamists were removed the military and TSK became freed from its Western shackles.... HOWEVER there was another set of shackles which held TSK back...

... it was Erdoğan's advisor Adnan Tanrıverdi. This man although powerful, was a complete traitor to the constitution and a threat to the future of Turkey. His plans were suicidal for the nation. Luckily he "resigned" early this year. He was responsible for many mistakes.

Now let me explain. He was threatened behind the scenes by you know who. He was forced to resign. At this period there was an internal reshuffling and a breath of fresh air came to TSK. I won't go into details but things changed for the better once he left.

Now let's talk about the geopolitics of the region. Sooner or later the gulf states will begin running out of oil. So they are trying to get themselves into a good position as soon as possible. Their ultimate goal is to divide Turkey and Iran. This will not only make them feel safe, but has a more long term effect.

Saudi Arabia is running out of underground water fast. Desalination plants need lots of fuel. Fuel which Saudi's have plenty of now, but won't in the future. This is the peak for the Arab countries. Right now they feel unstoppable. They feel as if they can do anything and get away with it... However the prospect of taking control of Turkey or Iran is always on their minds because they fear that they will run out of water.

Saudi Arabia and UAE are due for a big wakeup call. Lawrence's dogs need a big slap.
 
Shouldn’t surprise you considering the posts we’ve seen from him. Every crticism of rte and akp results in threats. Any islam crtitic post reveals levels of radicalism that makes me wonder how the f a turk can be like that.
Nothing surprising, just sad that a country like Turkey couldn't teach it's children the right and wrong as we can see in many examples. Latest is the morons, who run after a sümüklü... Also, thanks but I am in favor of Erdogan.
 
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Greeks have been complaining about Cihat Yazcı for weeks. And now he gets removed. Looks like the Cryto-Greek FETÖ politicians are once again pleasing their friends over in Greece.

All these pieces of sh!t hide behind Islam. Like always. They have been for the past few hundred years. Those "Muslims" hung by Atatürk were the ancestors of the Cryto-Greeks/Armenians who went against Turkish interests while using Islam as a cover. Today they're known as AKP and FETÖ.

They use Islam as a cover to destroy Turkish nationalism and f*ck up our goals.
 

Greeks have been complaining about Cihat Yazcı for weeks. And now he gets removed. Looks like the Cryto-Greek FETÖ politicians are once again pleasing their friends over in Greece.

All these pieces of sh!t hide behind Islam. Like always. They have been for the past few hundred years. Those "Muslims" hung by Atatürk were the ancestors of the Cryto-Greeks/Armenians who went against Turkish interests while using Islam as a cover. Today they're known as AKP and FETÖ.

They use Islam as a cover to destroy Turkish nationalism and f*ck up our goals.

Lots of greek bastards hiding in Turkey am I surprised.

Turkey seems to have a habit of throwing its talented commanders in the bin.

As if we have gone backwards and not forwards.

Then people wonder why a Alparslan or a Barbaros never comes out of Turkey.
 

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