Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[war&peace]

Just say sorry to each other for what happened in the past and move forward.

 

[rajvoSa]

@Sinan

Yeah, I saw that. But why bring it up, when he knows that previous attempt in 2009., collapsed for the same reason? Why made that statment in the first place and in his fisrt days in office. Maybe its just his starting bargaining position, and its ready for compromise...

I mean its very strange for him to bring normalizations with Turkey in one of his first statments as the new PM if he knows that initiative is dead in the water w/o adresing Karabaq.
What good of just floating this initiative brings to him knowing that w/o somekind resolution for Karabaq is nonstarter . Doesnt make sense to me.
Also, Aliev was in Ankara few days ago...maybe there are some movment on this front, I cant imagine that two leaders havent disscused Karabaq issue.
I mean Im just mostly specualtiong here, of course.

And not just cause they are fellow turkic nation, even if they arent, Karabaq occupation isnt right, it needs to be resolved and for Azeris to finally get what was taken for then unjustly. And what Armenians gained from it, what? Decades of tensions and instability, russian overlords dusguised as protectors which by the way just imposed import ban on them for taking down their man in PM office.

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan

Yeah, I saw that. But why bring it up, when he knows that previous attempt in 2009., collapsed for the same reason? Why made that statment in the first place and in his fisrt days in office. Maybe its just his starting bargaining position, and its ready for compromise...

I mean its very strange for him to bring normalizations with Turkey in one of his first statments as the new PM if he knows that initiative is dead in the water w/o adresing Karabaq.
What good of just floating this initiative brings to him knowing that w/o somekind resolution for Karabaq is nonstarter . Doesnt make sense to me.
Also, Aliev was in Ankara few days ago...maybe there are some movment on this front, I cant imagine that two leaders havent disscused Karabaq issue.
I mean Im just mostly specualtiong here, of course.

And not just cause they are fellow turkic nation, even if they arent, Karabaq occupation isnt right, it needs to be resolved and for Azeris to finally get what was taken for then unjustly. And what Armenians gained from it, what? Decades of tensions and instability, russian overlords dusguised as protectors which by the way just imposed import ban on them for taking down their man in PM office.

Well, to summarize this guy just had been PM, and media/people asking him questions and try to learn about his views, regarding the ruling of their country.

A journalist asked this question a few days ago....and he replied. That's it, no need to search for other different meanings, nobody in Turkey are discussing this development.

 

[Nein]

Just say sorry to each other for what happened in the past and move forward.

Not a chance Armenia not only wants an apology and reparations they want Turkey to cede land that was promised to them in the Treaty of Sevres. Armenians will stop at nothing to get its so called promised land like the Israelis.

 

[UkroTurk]

İf armenians left Karabağ, Russians never would allow this.
Armenians wills are nothing. There is Russia .

 

[Khagan1923]

Nah thanks. Armenia has nothing to gives us,Azerbaijan or even Georgia. Also their diaspora are pretty much fascists sooo I have no reason to normalize anything with a group of people that want to kill me and my ethnicity for some claim somebody made after getting their asses kicked in war they started by killing thousands of turkish and kurdish women and children while the men were gone fighting against world powers thousand of miles away.

Also let's not forget this is a country who has statues of armenian nazi ss officers and terrorists in their country for which they feel pride. There is nothing to normalize.

 

[Nein]

Armenians did was nothing more than treason since they got their asses kicked they are still crying. They have the audacity to claim land that was theirs when they themselves took those lands by conquest. Funny thing is how the Armenians even attacked their neighbours like Azerbaijan and Georgia for their dream of a Greater Armenia they are still occupying Karabag while crying for more land. Even today we still allow Armenians to immigrate to Turkey while at the same time they would have no chance in wiping us out if given the chance.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Nah thanks. Armenia has nothing to gives us,Azerbaijan or even Georgia. Also their diaspora are pretty much fascists sooo I have no reason to normalize anything with a group of people that want to kill me and my ethnicity for some claim somebody made after getting their asses kicked in war they started by killing thousands of turkish and kurdish women and children while the men were gone fighting against world powers thousand of miles away.

Also let's not forget this is a country who has statues of armenian nazi ss officers and terrorists in their country for which they feel pride. There is nothing to normalize.

That's not true. Opening the Turkish-Armenian border would make Eastern Anatolia safer, richer and more peaceful. In fact, no amount of military can stabilize Eastern Anatolia as much as trade with Armenia. Look what happened to Antep after opening the border to Syria. It is the Industrial centre of SE Anatolia with jobs and opportunities for the people living in the region and most importantly the economic prosperity is the reason why Antep is still overwhelmingly pro Turkish.
Contrary to the expectations of some people, Eastern Anatolia's population is declining. We have less than 5 million people living in the entire region of Eastern Anatolia now. We need trade, jobs and opportunities for our people regardless of the ethnicity or religious confession. Armenia is small. We could dominate the entire economy of Erivan if we open up the border. We could than put pressure on them to come to an agreement with Azerbaijan.

Opening the border makes sense.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Antep is pro turkish because antep is turkish, pic

@KediKesenFare is a Kurdish Islamist troll.

 

[OguzSenturk]

AKP is willing to, Turkey is not.

AKP is so stupid to understand that we are in bad relation status with Armenia because of their Karabağ genocide against Azerbaijani citizens, and their occupation of Dağlık Karabağ region in Azerbaijan.

 

[rajvoSa]

By this logic you should close borders with Russia too. It enabled Armenians in its occupation of Karabaq and is still supporting them.... not to mention russian role in creating said Armenia. taking back Karabaq militarily as long as Russia is there is a pipe dream. Diplomacy si the only realistic option.

 

[OguzSenturk]

By this logic you should close borders with Russia too. It enabled Armenians in its occupation of Karabaq and is still supporting them

This is completely illogical. I didn't support to cut our relations with the countries that support bad policies against Azerbaijan. Therefore, you get this logic out of nowhere.

taking back Karabaq militarily as long as Russia is there is a pipe dream.

So does the openning borders with Armenia. Who cares?

 

[xenon54 out]

By this logic you should close borders with Russia too. It enabled Armenians in its occupation of Karabaq and is still supporting them.... not to mention russian role in creating said Armenia. taking back Karabaq militarily as long as Russia is there is a pipe dream. Diplomacy si the only realistic option.

Turkey wont open border as long as Armenia is occupying Azeri territory and Armenia wont back up so the status quo will continue, theres nothing to discuss.

 

[rajvoSa]

This is completely illogical. I didn't support to cut our relations with the countries that support bad policies against Azerbaijan. Therefore, you get this logic out of nowhere.

Why not? Armenians w/o russian help would never done what they done. They are an accomplice in the genocide. And the only reason why Azeris cant do nothing militarily re Karabaq.

My personal opinnion that its in turkish national interests to resolve this issue sooner rather then later. Turkey is surroanded by instability and potential new war focal points. Syria, Iraq, soon will have iranian border to worry about... so at least trying to end this Azeri-Armenian issue would be prudent thing to do. one last potential shitshow to worry about.
Of course, I dont suggest that Turks and Azeris bow done to Armenians... but to try to find a lasting, diplom atic solutions, compromise in which everyone gets something inreturn and that side of the border finally enters new era of stability... maximilistic aproach will not ger anyone anything. Except maybe Russia, who is the onli benefactor of current state: selling weapons to both countries, havin base on turskih dortep and securing Caucusus and making itself a key player there...

These are just my thoughts. Im not interested in impsoing my views on others like they are some ultimat truths.

 

[OguzSenturk]

My personal opinnion that its in turkish national interests to resolve this issue sooner rather then later.

Ehh? You probably mixed Armenian national interests with Turkish national interests.

Armenia is the one that needs opened border with Turkey to stop suffering, not the other way around.

The rest of your comment is just full of BS that does not stand of my claims nor any physical law in universe.